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Dr. Strassman on "the effects of too much spice" from a recent interview. Thoughts?

There can be only one.

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Not sure if y'all knew this but, I am the chosen one.

I have all the answers of the universe. I just cannot explain the answers. My bad.

Don't worry. Be happy.

*whistles*
 
Tripolation said:
it would be Christopher Lambert
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I agree. Just remembered an old show from the 90s that I loved.
But listen to the message, he says it all: we're all chosen, but there can be only One ;)

Here, I translated it through my filters:
I am Immortal, and I am not alone.
For centures we have waited for the time,
when the stroke of a wisdom-sword and the fall of
an ego-head will release the power of the Awakening.
In the end, there can be only One.
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I am immortal, I have inside me blood of kings (Buddha nature)
I have no rival, no man can be my equal (Emptiness-Compassion)
Take me to the future of you all (May it be so)
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I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Children make profoundly dumb conclusions too and we just accept it as part of the process. I think there should be space for mental exploration. I loved getting feedback on DMT from people in various professions. In the right hands, something might click. Between the perceived immensity of the experience and stories that DNA was first theorized on LSD, people assume there's knowledge to tap into.

This place used to be far more moderated. When I started using DMT, I remember a post I spent a lot of thought on was removed, because apparently there was a rule against unscientific speculations. I was just musing about the idea that consciousness could exist at an atomic level, and that even inanimate objects like rocks have a role they're actively playing in a coordinated symphony, or something like that. But it really bothered me that my thoughts were shut down instead of just being ignored or engaged with. I stopped spending time here after that.

But yea, DMT can cause confusion and people can draw conclusions that are false. When I started exploring it in 2010-2012, there was a big push of new-age propaganda revolving around the mayan calendar. And McKenna's timewave zero supposedly aligning with the calendar. I was too-seriously expecting reality to get folded into a singularity or something, and after that didn't happen I sorta gave up on psychedelics / the community. I used to think if all the world leaders got together and tripped or smoked some weed, all conflicts could be resolved. I'm much more cynical these days and don't really know what DMT could / should be used for. Aya has more potential than the freebase for sure.

Also, has anyone ever got the impression that people lie about their DMT experience? The most authentic reaction IMO is when they come down just speechless, with gratitude and bewilderment. I get suspicious when people recite detailed play-by-plays. Sometimes it seems like a fish story with how exaggerated it sounds. Or when people describe it with terms from pop-culture, like "yea I saw the machine elves". Though, I think the experience can be primed by our subconscious expectations. I believe that's what's happening with the recent popular dmt phenomenon of seeing "code" in lasers. Likely just another case of over-use. Strange how it can subdue the ego and also make it hungry for commendation.
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Yeah it seems like some ppl want to brag about experiencing a breakthrough as if it's part of some secret club...instead of healing. But who am I to judge others for their reasons. I just dislike being a pretender. Have a couple experiences now I'm preaching to ppl about vibrations and chakras. Lol
 
Psychedelics don't just tend to reveal the unintelligible, they often make it feel understandable.
While everything seems to make perfect sense during the trip, these insights often fade once the experience is over.
What remains is sometimes nothing more than a trace of something that now feels unintelligible again.

Describing a trip is one thing, but losing grip on what is here is something else entirely.
And since every brain is wired differently, no one should expect any two trips to be alike.
 
northape said:
Chakras are real, dude. That's just your traumas talking, obviously. Just work on your shadows more. And hey, go buy some crystals. They'll definitely fix you up 😂

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Lol if you read the previous post you'd see if was mocking the posers. I'm heavy into meditation crystals and chakras.... 10 plus years
 
northape said:
I wrote my message to a hypothetical poser too, btw ;)
How do you power up your chakras? I'm genuinely interested.
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What I'm saying is when I release the second hit of dmt. It feels like someone or something is powering on my chakras. Like they are shining a heat/light into my eyes, throat, etc. It's so strange bc the spots on my body feel really warm
 
...Did someone say amethyst? 😍

Quartz is the most commonly used high frequency phononic crystal resonator in modern tech. Actually it's the most commonly used resonator period.

Our ancestors were obsessed with quartz and quartz rich megalithic structures for their supposed energetic properties. Neurons also exhibit high frequency phononic resonance within microtubules.

Not hard to connect the dots. Definitely speculative stuff...but don't knock it till ya try it! Crystal gaze with a decent chunk of quartz on DMT or other psychedelics and it gets quite weird with practice. Especially in a Neolithic stone circle. I used to laugh at crystal woo till I did
 
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What I'm saying is when I release the second hit of dmt. It feels like someone or something is powering on my chakras. Like they are shining a heat/light into my eyes, throat, etc. It's so strange bc the spots on my body feel really warm
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Ok, I got you. I thought maybe you do some special routine beforehand.
Energy experiences are quite common, ime.
Have you tried to do something similar when sober?
 
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universecannon said:
...Did someone say amethyst? 😍

Quartz is the most commonly used high frequency phononic crystal resonator in modern tech. Our ancestors were obsessed with quartz and quartz rich megalithic structures for their supposed energetic properties. Neurons also exhibit high frequency phononic resonance within microtubules.

Not hard to connect the dots. Definitely speculative stuff...but don't knock it till ya try it! Crystal gaze with a decent chunk of quartz on DMT or other psychedelics and it gets quite weird with practice. Especially in a Neolithic stone circle. I used to laugh at crystal woo till I did
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They use quartz to load a specific energy profile, too. Shamans do it, and Buddhist monks with their crystal malas.
I have a very surface understanding of how it works, honestly. Something to look into for sure.
 
IceKoldpp said:
i watched Dr Strassman's interview recently on the Danny Jones podcast and something he mentioned has jumped to the front of my mind a few times recently while browsing new posts/threads here on the nexus. i've also seen a few jokes made here and there on threads to the effect of "uh oh, another spice newbie has just emerged from their initial few months of high use and unlocked the universal truth to enlightenment and is here to shephard us all to nirvana with their newfound wisdom (or book or whatever)".

i'm only maybe 6 mos in to my membership on the nexus and it does seem to be a theme that this is pretty common. and i've even read a few of these writings they share. and there seems to be a lot of kindof common tropes within them. lots of ambiguous esoteric language that you can tell seems to be extremely profound to the author but doesn't actually seem to be saying anything direct or concrete. an example of what i mean is like "the answers i always knew were there but just hadn't been shown that they were inside of me, and outside of me, and you, and all of us... together". yet they never SAY what the answer is. and alot of the time it's written in almost a medeivel narrator type of style. very proper but in a silly kind of way.

this is not in any way meant to shame anyone or anything like that. which is why i'll not provide any direct examples. but i do find it interesting that when asked ab there being no negative side affects from heavy use of spice he mentions this "messianic" effect that we often see play out here on the nexus. often from someone who's account is only a few days old, proclaiming they aren't here wanting to be anyone's guru, yet everything after that kindof saying the opposite. my guess is it's probably just new spice users that have never experienced anything near reality breaking or paradigm shifting as DMT before (bc there isn't anything else) and feeling that it has to mean something profound beyond just for them. or it could be these are the ppl that they say shouldn't be using psychedelics bc of underlying mental illness. and this is the playing out of that mental illness on high use of psychs.

no real direction or underlying "answer" i'm trying to uncover with this. just really opening up a discussion for any thoughts or direct experience with Strassman's "messianic effect".

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Well I'm about at that time frame using DMT and I'm new to the site.

I'd say DMT has been less mind breaking than lucid dreaming... but after doing it I definitely feel like I want to tell people stuff and tell them to take DMT and share my ideology. Mostly because trying to get someone to lucid dream, that hasn't yet, has been impossible for me to induce in them. But with DMT.... well, it's a pretty irrefutable experience that can be done in 10 minutes by inhaling the smell of new shoes. So I do like to talk about it to anyone that will listen...
Knowing that drugs don't exactly affect everyone the same throws a wrench in my plans. But I try regardless... I want to tell them "here is proof that we live in a cartoon" but they don't always see it that way.

And I find my approach to being dismissive of ego-loss and aggressive with the entities to be far less shared. It doesn't make me angry though.
But I hope what I say is at least an intelligible concept regardless of agreement, and not doing the "saying something without saying anything," thing.
 
s2cndchance said:
I want to tell them "here is proof that we live in a cartoon" but they don't always see it that way.
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Because there's no way to actually prove anything without some preexisting assumptions. Your proof would only work with someone who shares or comes to share your basic assumptions, and there's no way to prove the assumptions themselves. Said on a different way, proofs only make sense for their given set of axioms and deduction rules.
For example, under a different set of assumptions, a DMT experience is "irrefutable proof" that our experience has a purely chemical basis. The point is not that I agree with the latter (I don't), but that one ought to be cautious when feeling completely certain about what a experience means.
 
blig-blug said:
Said on a different way, proofs only make sense for their given set of axioms and deduction rules.
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As I've said before, a fact is only a fact in a paradigm that generates and substantiates it. Proof is only proof in a particular system.

Also, evidence is not proof.

Outside of a paradigm, proof isn't really a thing.

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This understanding is why whenever I hear someone use the term proof, it gets immediately restructured in my mind to reflect their conviction about the supposed proof and the thing there is supposed proof for. The view becomes about them and their phenomenology rather than the topic at hand.

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