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Dripping dissolved DMT directly onto mesh for vape?

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Greetings Nexians,

I have an idea which I would like to know if anyone could offer any insight to if it would be a viable option and if so which solvent would be the best to use.

Ideally I would want to store DMT freebase in a small glass bottle with a dripper. I would then want be able to drip one or a few drops directly onto a ceramic filter disk or metal mesh. I would later want to place this disk or mesh into a device of choice for vaporization.

Would this be a viable option at all? If so which solvent would be the best to use? For this to work I would need a solvent which I can be sure will evaporate 100% rather quickly, or one that isn't toxic for inhalation in very small doses, so that way I wouldn't have to worry it was all gone.

Am I right to think that ethanol isn't toxic to inhale in a small dose? Any idea how long it would take for different solvents (IPA, acetone, ethanol etc) to totally evaporate from a ceramic disk or metal mesh in room temp?

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I have been thinking about trying this with some dmt/PG liquid that I have been using with varying degrees of success in an ecig type device.

The PG is safe to inhale, and evaporates 100% very readily, I don't see why it wouldn't work with a proper liquid pad in a GVG or other vaporizer for example.

It is worth noting that DMT in a liquid solution oxidizes MUCH faster then when stored properly as crystal.

The liquid turns a deep red color over a few months time, still very active.
 
Hi ,

Vapers usually use propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine as a mixing agent .

1:1 (1gDMT/1mlPG/VG) ratio seems to be accepted as good place to be / breakthrough achievable with a decent set-up .

Still in it's infancy but the e-cigarette vaping technology is coming on leaps & bounds .

Waiting on a promising looking ceramic atomizer to try myself (gigue dolphin)

regards H
 
OP is talking about solving and then dropping the liquid into a carrier mesh, right?

We have a member who worked on developing this technique some time back, do a DMT-nexus/google search.

It can be very easily and effectively done, solve DMT FB in IPA/etoh ( known amount in known amount, using least solvent poss. ) then drop on a copper mesh, liquid pad or whatever, ALLOW SOLVENT TO EVAPORATE- SMOKING ALCOHOL FUMES IS BAD VERY BAD.
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Thank you for your replies guys. yes null24, that is what I mean. furheden and herbster, I would not want to use e-cig fluid because as you say and from what I've read it is not a good option to store DMT in long term and I would not want to vape the PG.

null24, i also seem to remember reading about another member doing what I am asking about. If i am not mistaken it was the member "global", but I could be wrong. I've tried searching for the thread but can't figure out what to search for.
 
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Thank you for your replies guys. yes null24, that is what I mean. furheden and herbster, I would not want to use e-cig fluid because as you say and from what I've read it is not a good option to store DMT in long term and I would not want to vape the PG.

null24, i also seem to remember reading about another member doing what I am asking about. If i am not mistaken it was the member "global", but I could be wrong. I've tried searching for the thread but can't figure out what to search for.
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Vaping PG is far safer then vaping any IPA that is hanging around...

PG is used in asthma inhalers, and nebulizers fyi, in a medical sense it's primary purpose is as a method of delivering drug compounds via the respiratory system!

It is even pumped through the airways of hospitals for its anti bacterial properties. .

As far as I know, dmt will oxidize just as fast (maybe faster?) in ethanol or IPA. It is not so much what is stored in, as it is the fact that in its liquid phase it is very exposed, on a molecular level, and oxidizes rapidly.


Also, FYI, you can get upwards of 20mg of dmt in a single drop of PG, the post above is getting a very small fraction of that into a drop of ethanol.
 
furhenden said:
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Thank you for your replies guys. yes null24, that is what I mean. furheden and herbster, I would not want to use e-cig fluid because as you say and from what I've read it is not a good option to store DMT in long term and I would not want to vape the PG.

null24, i also seem to remember reading about another member doing what I am asking about. If i am not mistaken it was the member "global", but I could be wrong. I've tried searching for the thread but can't figure out what to search for.
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Vaping PG is far safer then vaping any IPA that is hanging around...

PG is used in asthma inhalers, and nebulizers fyi, in a medical sense it's primary purpose is as a method of delivering drug compounds via the respiratory system!

It is even pumped through the airways of hospitals for its anti bacterial properties. .

As far as I know, dmt will oxidize just as fast (maybe faster?) in ethanol or IPA. It is not so much what is stored in, as it is the fact that in its liquid phase it is very exposed, on a molecular level, and oxidizes rapidly.


Also, FYI, you can get upwards of 20mg of dmt in a single drop of PG, the post above is getting a very small fraction of that into a drop of ethanol.
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I know nothing of PG, or electric vaping. Although it's very interesting ROA.
Also, please do not read into any of this that vaping IPA in any way is ok. At all.

IPA must be completely evaporated
I use it regularly for enhanced leaf, as a temporary carrier. I've never stored it long term in alcohol, so can't attest to its stability.

The intent of the IPA here is to TEMPORARILY hold the DMT, so that it can be dosed accurately by volume, and deposited as liquid onto a carrier in a conduction vape device, ala a GVG or "the machine". Once dropped onto mesh, the IPA is given adequate time to completely evaporate away, then it's ready.

Will pg work this way? Pardon me if instating the obvious.

The thread I'm thinking of was calling the DMT/IPA solution 'tincher', as in tincture. Does anyone have more memory cells than I do and can remember who posted it?
 
I thought Starway6 was doing some work on tinctures and directly dropping said tinctures into a pipe via a dropper or something...not sure if this is what you guys are looking for exactly as I have no experience in this...perhaps a thread like this is what you are looking for...?


That is just one thread...I think he has others...idk it is late...hope this helps!

:)
 
null24 said:
furhenden said:
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Thank you for your replies guys. yes null24, that is what I mean. furheden and herbster, I would not want to use e-cig fluid because as you say and from what I've read it is not a good option to store DMT in long term and I would not want to vape the PG.

null24, i also seem to remember reading about another member doing what I am asking about. If i am not mistaken it was the member "global", but I could be wrong. I've tried searching for the thread but can't figure out what to search for.
Click to expand...


Vaping PG is far safer then vaping any IPA that is hanging around...

PG is used in asthma inhalers, and nebulizers fyi, in a medical sense it's primary purpose is as a method of delivering drug compounds via the respiratory system!

It is even pumped through the airways of hospitals for its anti bacterial properties. .

As far as I know, dmt will oxidize just as fast (maybe faster?) in ethanol or IPA. It is not so much what is stored in, as it is the fact that in its liquid phase it is very exposed, on a molecular level, and oxidizes rapidly.


Also, FYI, you can get upwards of 20mg of dmt in a single drop of PG, the post above is getting a very small fraction of that into a drop of ethanol.
Click to expand...

I know nothing of PG, or electric vaping. Although it's very interesting ROA.
Also, please do not read into any of this that vaping IPA in any way is ok. At all.

IPA must be completely evaporated
I use it regularly for enhanced leaf, as a temporary carrier. I've never stored it long term in alcohol, so can't attest to its stability.

The intent of the IPA here is to TEMPORARILY hold the DMT, so that it can be dosed accurately by volume, and deposited as liquid onto a carrier in a conduction vape device, ala a GVG or "the machine". Once dropped onto mesh, the IPA is given adequate time to completely evaporate away, then it's ready.

Will pg work this way? Pardon me if instating the obvious.

The thread I'm thinking of was calling the DMT/IPA solution 'tincher', as in tincture. Does anyone have more memory cells than I do and can remember who posted it?
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PG will work in almost the same way, but with the exception that the PG is not evaporated away, it is safely inhaled as the carrier of the DMT, much as it is used in a medical sense.

So in this scenario, you drop it on, and your ready to go, just as if you melted some crystals right into the mesh.

For the record I went ahead and tried just this myself on a copper mesh in a GVG with PG liquid at around 12mg per drop, worked as expected.

Some other places PG is commonly used FYI is in things like pipe tobacco, and hookah tobacco, where it is used to keep it moist and fresh, and/or as a carrier for flavorings. It's safety is quite well understood, it is in the US Pharmacopoeia (USP).
 
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