RayOfLight
Rising Star
well what do you all think? rememeber the question isn't asking if they are the only tool, rather the best tool at our disposal .
Evening Glory said:No. Meditation is. Entheogens can prove very helpful on the path, but they will not spiritually enlighten you alone. No chance at all.
Evening Glory said:I guess it all boils down to how one defines being enlightened.
Evening Glory said:No. Meditation is. Entheogens can prove very helpful on the path.
Yeah, and thank you for reminding me that my truth is not necessarily the truth of others. I agree that the tone in the first post was not favorable, but I do stand by it. I believe that what I stated is the case for most people. I also believe there are some people who believe it not to be the case, a belief that in many cases (or perhaps all) simply is wrong.Citta said:And this is exactly what I was trying to point out through my questions, and what I wanted you to see. When talking about matters like this one should not step up on the high horse and claim to sit with the answers. Your first reply was in a tone that made the whole post look as if you knew exactly what spiritual enlightenment is, and how everyone on the path to this state should attain it. Thanks for taking a more humble approach through your second post =)
ohayoco said:I don't really believe in the buddhist meaning of enlightenment, but I do believe in knowledge as enlightenment, specifically the development of emotional intelligence, ethics, scientific and philosophical knowledge, with the goal of self-actualisation.
Personally I think that anyone who claims to be enlightened is an arrogant fool. Someone who is enlightened and doesn't think of themselves as such, well maybe they are because you can't have enlightenment without humility in the face of the perfection you can never attain.
rememeber the question isn't asking if they are the only tool, rather the best tool at our disposal
DMTripper said:I think there is no one way for enlightenment. Just doing psychedelics or just doing meditation will never make you enlightened. Life will with it multiple experiences and paths.