I think everything is mescaline. Collect what you have.
Mag stirrer will produce finer powder (which are really tiny xtlas), more resting resting/waiting will produce larger crystals.
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TEK Ethyl acetate approach [CIELO]
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Mag stirrer will produce finer powder (which are really tiny xtlas), more resting resting/waiting will produce larger crystals.
After waiting, collect what you think is the exact same citric acid. Then add 100mg of citric acid to the filtered EA. It should dissolve over time, proving to you that what you collected is not citric acid. Make sense?
Before collecting swirl the jar and get a feel for how fast the powder settles down. Do the same after filtering and adding 100mg of citric acid. You should notice a big difference in how fast the citric acid settles (fast) vs mescaline citrate (much slower).
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You can also taste the powder, if it doesn't taste like citric acid, it's not citric acid and vice versa
Thank you for replay
Asking the chemist here :
I'm using VINEGAR instead of citric acid, to create SPEX (san pedro extract, a more full spectrum approach).
Observation : I added 100ml vinegar for 1L EA ; , and generaly i recover close to 100%. but last time i recovered only 85ml ; can EA absorb that much ?!! I can't compute where the vinegar went ! (only parameter change is : i used a different lime brand, but same same , generally result are equal ; and it was hotter (30°C vs 24°C ) )
Question 2 : Cleaning my solvent, i just added sodium carbonate to the EA on the mixer. Sodium carb dissolved, an a water layer formed at the bottom. I'm trying to understand why the water is pushed out of the EA
Any recomendation on cleaning the EA without loosing the potentially residual alkaloid left behind (i do only 1 back salting, it takes at least 24h of stirring... )
I'm using VINEGAR instead of citric acid, to create SPEX (san pedro extract, a more full spectrum approach).
Observation : I added 100ml vinegar for 1L EA ; , and generaly i recover close to 100%. but last time i recovered only 85ml ; can EA absorb that much ?!! I can't compute where the vinegar went ! (only parameter change is : i used a different lime brand, but same same , generally result are equal ; and it was hotter (30°C vs 24°C ) )
Question 2 : Cleaning my solvent, i just added sodium carbonate to the EA on the mixer. Sodium carb dissolved, an a water layer formed at the bottom. I'm trying to understand why the water is pushed out of the EA
Any recomendation on cleaning the EA without loosing the potentially residual alkaloid left behind (i do only 1 back salting, it takes at least 24h of stirring... )
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I would suggest checking the solubility of acetic acid in EA. There's a good chance that EA is capable of swallowing a significant amount of vinegar.Asking the chemist here :
I'm using VINEGAR instead of citric acid, to create SPEX (san pedro extract, a more full spectrum approach).
Observation : I added 100ml vinegar for 1L EA ; , and generaly i recover close to 100%. but last time i recovered only 85ml ; can EA absorb that much ?!! I can't compute where the vinegar went ! (only parameter change is : i used a different lime brand, but same same , generally result are equal ; and it was hotter (30°C vs 24°C ) )
Question 2 : Cleaning my solvent, i just added sodium carbonate to the EA on the mixer. Sodium carb dissolved, an a water layer formed at the bottom. I'm trying to understand why the water is pushed out of the EA
Any recomendation on cleaning the EA without loosing the potentially residual alkaloid left behind (i do only 1 back salting, it takes at least 24h of stirring... )
Ok. All the citric acid crystals dissolved. The jar is quite big for the small amount of EA in it. I can see that when I last time have swirled the EA around the edges of the jar, there seems to be some tiny particles attached to the side of the jar; -more like dust particles, definitely more porous than citric acid crystalls, for these do not seem to sink. The same "dust" floats in the EA too. There's very little to collect if any. I've heard some people do CIELO and they let their jars sit for +2 weeks before collecting. In this case, I might as well do if it serves a purpose... How to effectively collect these "dust particles" from this jar?
Should I expect anything remaining in that first jar, ie. the green EA jar?
just posted results on AGE/ not AGED
Testing the aging VS not aging
-Harvested in February, before spring growth restart.
-6 nice columns of the same clone (trich pachanoi "Monad")
Each column was divided in 25cm chunks from top to bottom, and each chunk was marked in alternance : Age / not age. I was also attent that the head of the columns were age/not age in equal amount.
The not age part was immediatly uncored and dried.
The Age part was stored in a completly dark space for 2 months. Then uncored and dried.
A CIELO extraction was performed, side to side :
This correspond to +23% in the age cactus...
-Harvested in February, before spring growth restart.
-6 nice columns of the same clone (trich pachanoi "Monad")
Each column was divided in 25cm chunks from top to bottom, and each chunk was marked in alternance : Age / not age. I was also attent that the head of the columns were age/not age in equal amount.
The not age part was immediatly uncored and dried.
The Age part was stored in a completly dark space for 2 months. Then uncored and dried.
A CIELO extraction was performed, side to side :
This correspond to +23% in the age cactus...
