TEK Ethyl acetate approach [CIELO]

[Transform]

What caused the oily substance to extract from the powder?

Time? Rain? Temperature changes? Gravity? Slow chemical reaction?

What should I do to it, now that there's unvanted stuff in it?

Do a presumptive reagent test for alkaloids, to help make sure you won't be wasting your time.

 

[dstark93]

On reddit there is a community pdf by Wizard which curates the cultivars with their extracted percentages. Anything similar here?
People post their CIELO checklist image extraction summary - is this being used for curation of results?

 

[Transform]

curates the cultivars with their extracted percentages. Anything similar here?

Yes, there is at least one thread on cactus potency to be found if one searches for it.

 

[dstark93]

These are pretty old (few years back), with no reported number of datapoints for the averages.
Given the latest influx of CIELO yield reports, we can actually get quite a good estimate of average+-std of cultivars given there are sufficiently datapoints.
From the last few months (as reported on reddit, using the CIELO checklist):

 

[Transform]

These are pretty old (few years back), with no reported number of datapoints for the averages.
Given the latest influx of CIELO yield reports, we can actually get quite a good estimate of average+-std of cultivars given there are sufficiently datapoints.
From the last few months (as reported on reddit, using the CIELO checklist):
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OK, thanks - I think I'll move your post over here, however:

Thread 'The Average Cactus Mescaline Content Mega-Thread (post your yields!)'

Oct 15, 2018

I've been working on this table (attached) which collects results from different cactus analysis. I added first of all journal publications, also underground assays. I've been careful to add sources to everything

It has 111 entries so far (as of 15/10/2018
130 as of 17/10

Ideally this will give us a good idea on mescaline content in cactus around the world, averages, distributions, being able to cross data such as growth/harvest conditions, vendor/geographical source, etc.

If you look at the excel table I also made sheets to separate per species, and on the bottom I added...

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btw - search: cactus+yield

 

[Loveall]

These are pretty old (few years back), with no reported number of datapoints for the averages.
Given the latest influx of CIELO yield reports, we can actually get quite a good estimate of average+-std of cultivars given there are sufficiently datapoints.
From the last few months (as reported on reddit, using the CIELO checklist):
View attachment 111540

We are hoping that a good AI can search the web for the online calculator checklist images posted and turns those into a database. Over time it should increase.

A special case is the same cultivator reporting on different clones, data can be cut that way, along with aging, fertilizer, season of harvest, etc.

 

[Loveall]

Today, the CIELO process became the most viewed TEK on the DMT Nexus Wiki. Thank you to everyone that contributed to the process

Beware of DMT being a gateway drug to life being overrun by cacti gardening

 

[Loveall]

We are hoping that a good AI can search the web for the online calculator checklist images posted and turns those into a database. Over time it should increase.

A special case is the same cultivator reporting on different clones, data can be cut that way, along with aging, fertilizer, season of harvest, etc.

We also thought about adding an "upload to database" button on the online calculator, but decided against it to avoid bots, jokesters, etc corrupting the data.

 

[Transform]

Beware of DMT being a gateway drug to life being overrun by cacti gardening

Can confirm - and absolutely love it!

 

[RitualOpossum]

I have a question regarding CIELO but its off topic. Can I post this here?

Can I produce Nicotine salts using CIELO or HIELO? I thought HIELO & CIELO were developed based off techniques in making nicotine salts so it sparked an interest with this. Im sorry if this is in the wrong place, also.

I want to grow Nicotiana rustica and DIY nicotine vape for my dad & sister to save them money and Im interested in the extraction process for that out of fascination

Thank you so much I appreciate all the work that went into CIELO as well as HIELO

EDIT: There are safety concerns that have me concerned about dangers with overdose. Another Nexian (@bezevo ) warned me about trying this.

 

[Loveall]

I have a question regarding CIELO but its off topic. Can I post this here?

Can I produce Nicotine salts using CIELO or HIELO? I thought HIELO & CIELO were developed based off techniques in making nicotine salts so it sparked an interest with this. Im sorry if this is in the wrong place, also.

I want to grow Nicotiana rustica and DIY nicotine vape for my dad & sister to save them money and Im interested in the extraction process for that out of fascination

Thank you so much I appreciate all the work that went into CIELO as well as HIELO

EDIT: There are safety concerns that have me concerned about dangers with overdose. Another Nexian (@bezevo ) warned me about trying this.

Putre nicotine is very dangerous as you said, and I would not try to extract it.

 

[Transform]

I have a question regarding CIELO but its off topic. Can I post this here?

Can I produce Nicotine salts using CIELO or HIELO? I thought HIELO & CIELO were developed based off techniques in making nicotine salts so it sparked an interest with this. Im sorry if this is in the wrong place, also.

I want to grow Nicotiana rustica and DIY nicotine vape for my dad & sister to save them money and Im interested in the extraction process for that out of fascination

Thank you so much I appreciate all the work that went into CIELO as well as HIELO

EDIT: There are safety concerns that have me concerned about dangers with overdose. Another Nexian (@bezevo ) warned me about trying this.

Putre nicotine is very dangerous as you said, and I would not try to extract it.

You would need some serious PPE and detailed safe working practices in place before even beginning to think about extracting nicotine. Definitely not something to be taken lightly, ditto with things like scopolamine.

 

[RitualOpossum]

Thanks @Transform after realizing the risks I've decided it's not for me

 

[dstark93]

Updated with past month extraction reports (did not really change as extractions posted were on different cultivars which have not enough data points).

Added stressing bar - note that it seems like stressing doing the opposite to M content. This is probably not true (as we all know from the many reports) - probably due to data being displayed for overall, rather than a stress vs. no stress per user (which would be a better comparison given same growing conditions etc.).

(TBMC and SS02 are not present because when separated for stress / no stress, they do not have over 3 data points)

edit: edited to insert image and add comment about missing cultivars compared to earlier post.

 

[speed4goal]

I have some questions, its probably to premature to judge just yet. But I figured after 12 hours crystals would have started precipitating out by now. I followed the recipe from the YouTube video.
160ml water, 26.5 lime. My difference here is I used 100 grams of peyote powder. I know it's good because I've dosed resin made from it. Potency isn't a issue. I did my 6 pulls ended up with almost a liter of ea. I added 6 grams of CA. Idk if I made a mistake when it wasn't dissolving I swirled and shook it a few times and it did. Now there is a goo on the bottom. Do I need more citric acid, does it need a few drops of water? I'm trying to read about goo formations but people are saying different things. Any help is great appreciated.

 

[speed4goal]

So after more reading it seems like my options are something like this, decent some of the ea out into another container, add fresh EA and see if it xtals. Or Decant the goo/oil off the bottom add to another container and add some fresh EA and see if it xtals. Or remove the oil goo from the bottom and let it evap any residue ea let it dry out and it should be fairly concentrate m citrate and can consume it like that. Or take the oil and boil it in some ethanol, let it cool then place in freezer for crystalization. Then can evap the rest of the alcohol off to recover the last bit?

Im tempted to move it to another container and add fresh EA. I'm also tempted to remove the oil and let it dry out and then consume it in doses from what's left. From what Im reading it's safe to consume it might just have a little extra citric acid to it. I have to much invested into this batch to have anything happen to where I lose it.

I'll probably never have yote powder ever again.
For the trichos I think I may try kashs tek next time. Any help is appreciated.
I don't have much experience in this stuff. I have done deemz extractions which are fairly straightforward

 

[speed4goal]

I have some 99 iPa on the way. Imma try to dry the oil then dissolve it in boiling alcohol and let it cool and go into the freezer to crash out. I figure thats worth a shot first