Questions for you....
Have you ever had surgeon-like or doctor-like entities work on you during a breakthrough?
I'm not asking whether you believe they were real—I'm interested purely in the phenomenology of the experience.
The reason I'm asking is that another thread about "looking around" in DMT space led me to a much deeper question: what actually survives into the DMT space as the observer?
Some people pointed out that in lucid dreams they can see their hands, look at their body, fly around, or intentionally manipulate the environment. I looked into the lucid dreaming literature, and that's indeed a common practice. Similarly, many out-of-body experience reports describe having some form of "astral body."
But breakthrough DMT seems very different.
Many of us have noticed that there often appears to be little or no sense of possessing a body at all, yet people frequently report entities performing surgery, removing fear, repairing the heart, working on the head, or otherwise "operating" on them.
I've never had it, but it gets reported all the time. I dont doubt people have had these experiences.
If you've had one of these experiences, I'd love to know exactly how it appeared from your point of view.
A few specific questions:
- Did you actually see your body?
- Was the experience entirely first-person, or were you observing yourself from a third-person perspective?
- Did you look down and see something resembling your physical chest, head, or body?
- Or did you simply know they were working on you without visually seeing a body?
- Did it feel more like they were interacting with an energetic body, a conceptual body, or just a felt sense of "you"?
- Was there any anatomy at all, or was it something much more abstract?
- Could you intentionally move your viewpoint during the experience, or was it fixed?
- Any physical sensations or somatic reactions?
I'm trying to understand something very specific about breakthrough phenomenology—not what happened, but how it was experienced.
Looking forward to hearing your experiences. The more descriptive and detailed, the better.
PLUR
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Have you ever had surgeon-like or doctor-like entities work on you during a breakthrough?
I'm not asking whether you believe they were real—I'm interested purely in the phenomenology of the experience.
The reason I'm asking is that another thread about "looking around" in DMT space led me to a much deeper question: what actually survives into the DMT space as the observer?
Some people pointed out that in lucid dreams they can see their hands, look at their body, fly around, or intentionally manipulate the environment. I looked into the lucid dreaming literature, and that's indeed a common practice. Similarly, many out-of-body experience reports describe having some form of "astral body."
But breakthrough DMT seems very different.
Many of us have noticed that there often appears to be little or no sense of possessing a body at all, yet people frequently report entities performing surgery, removing fear, repairing the heart, working on the head, or otherwise "operating" on them.
I've never had it, but it gets reported all the time. I dont doubt people have had these experiences.
If you've had one of these experiences, I'd love to know exactly how it appeared from your point of view.
A few specific questions:
- Did you actually see your body?
- Was the experience entirely first-person, or were you observing yourself from a third-person perspective?
- Did you look down and see something resembling your physical chest, head, or body?
- Or did you simply know they were working on you without visually seeing a body?
- Did it feel more like they were interacting with an energetic body, a conceptual body, or just a felt sense of "you"?
- Was there any anatomy at all, or was it something much more abstract?
- Could you intentionally move your viewpoint during the experience, or was it fixed?
- Any physical sensations or somatic reactions?
I'm trying to understand something very specific about breakthrough phenomenology—not what happened, but how it was experienced.
Looking forward to hearing your experiences. The more descriptive and detailed, the better.
PLUR
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