Evolution of mankind

[universalshaman]

Has nobody got word from the mushrooms yet, that there's something big happening this year?

Man, some people sound like they need to pay attention when they trip

Every plant is saying the same thing now, I personally think alot of people need ego-obliterating doses otherwise we're going to just sink into the mud puddle in terms of spiritual uplifting..

We have the power now to form a paradise, hands down, free energy, renewable resources, smart ecological balance with the planet is possible, but we're held down by greed and nonsense, yet, yet..

..We could change it all, and we fail to unite.

Thankfully that is happening, people are coming together, and no matter what they are sick of, they are sick of it, and, you gotta wonder, why can't we live in a perfect world?

Something is happening in 2012, and I think it has to do with an alien, that exists inside us, and potentially is us, in some higher dimensional form.

We're going somewhere, life is spiralling out of control, reality is a vacation from the contents of the imagination

 

[acacian]

What part of, "the government is stifling my evolution with their laws" doesn't sound like whining?

I am most definitely NOT a supporter of many of the government's policies, and I will do what I feel is right no matter what laws they pass. But to credit them with power over evolution is going a bit to far.

dude.... label it as whining if you want, but people need to know whats going on and this guy is bloody legend for helping people become aware. his "whining" has actually changed my life for the better. I don't see it as whining but talking sense about an utterly insane society... and i dont mean the poor individuals who don't even realise what they are imprisoned in, but the people who consciously DO prevent us from reaching our potential and forcing us to live the way they want us to.. all in the name of money and power. attention needs to be brought to them... and its not gonna be very positive considering the nature of who we're dealing with

 

[Digital Machine]

If by Evolution he meant biological well then maybe they aren't stifling it very much...

But if he meant Evolution as in "progression" or social change/development for the better of the species then I would agree Governments are stifling it. Some more than others. It takes free thinkers and new ideas to break old paradigms to evolve(progress) us socially especially when it comes to science and technology. If there are ignorant laws put in place that hinder this growth on any level then I would say Hancock is correct in his assessment.

People could say the same about many of us though. "what you want to stop animal testing? you are hindering our evolution!" so I guess like most things, it goes both ways.

 

[Slappy White]

Bricklaya, I called it whining because he states what he perceives to be an injustice against him in a way that cannot benefit his cause. What were his intentions when he made these comments? If it was to gain support in the fight against misguided government policies banning entheogens, he would have had much more success without bringing outrageous and obviously flawed theories on evolution into the conversation. As it is now, people who are fighting against the use of entheogens can use his comments to show that we are just a bunch of druggies with ridiculous theories.
I know some people who are radical republicans. During the last Presidential elections in the United States they would dress up like Hippies and go to Democratic rallies and make fools of themselves in an effort to discredit the Democratic Party. If Mr. Hancock really wants to fight for the legalization of entheogens, he should think before he speaks.

 

[benzyme]

why can't we live in a perfect world?

because nothing is perfect, nothing. perfect is a human idealogical construct, and humans are imperfect.

there is always a tendency towards entropy, albeit, also a tendency to equilibrium. but nothing really stays in a state of equilibrium. this is how nature works.


changes are occurring in 2012, but they were also occurring in 2011. were you asleep then?
Changes will occur in 2013, and long after. Changes have occurred long before man existed..it's the aforementioned entropy.

 

[universalshaman]

why can't we live in a perfect world?

because nothing is perfect, nothing. perfect is a human idealogical construct, and humans are imperfect.

there is always a tendency towards entropy, albeit, also a tendency to equilibrium. but nothing really stays in a state of equilibrium. this is how nature works.


changes are occurring in 2012, but they were also occurring in 2011. were you asleep then?
Changes will occur in 2013, and long after. Changes have occurred long before man existed..it's the aforementioned entropy.

If we lived in symbiotic balance with plants, alongside nature, then we'd elevate consiousness to a more natural and connected state of mind with everything around us, and after taking certain plants you can just see, we CAN make a perfect world and its OUR choice to make, its the attitude of "There will always be shit bla bla" that makes a perfect world impossible.

I still say to this day if the entire world took mushrooms one evening it would never be the same.

2012 is a culmination of something, something in another dimension is coming through, and I think it has something to do with an extra-terrestrial mind. That plants may or may not be the medium to which we communicate with this mind.

 

[benzyme]

perfect according to who? according to you? who decided what was considered "perfect"?

you can believe whatever you want to believe, but the practicalities are subject to scrutiny.
plants have never communicated to me, no matter how much I listened. only clear thought and dendritic connections from said thought have improved any insights I've acquired regarding this universe, and that had nothing to do with plants.

no flying spaghetti monsters, no second coming of jesus, no martians in 2012. don't be disappointed when Dec. 22 rolls around, and you didn't get abducted by a race of partying aliens.

 

[Shaolin]

I still say to this day if the entire world took mushrooms one evening it would never be the same.

I smoked a little grass and I've taken some acid, mescaline, uh, psilocybin, peyote, mushroom

As for perfection, it's an illusion.

Nature is cruel. You can't change that, you can only accept it.

 

[۩]

I don't mean to throw a philosophical monkey wrench in the gears of relative perspectives, but I find nature and the universe to be completely perfect.

 

[universecannon]

The whole 'survival of the fittest' and 'cruel' view of nature is of course true on one level, but its been thought by many recently to not be the whole truth. A lot of people think its much more like 'survival of the cooperative'- those who can cooperate with they're sorrounding environment and organisms are the most likely to survive and reproduce..A big reason for this is because recently we've noticed the insane amount of co-evolutionary relationships that permeate nature on so many levels, but which are mostly hidden from the naked eye. For example its something like 3/4 trees have a symbiotic relationship with types of soil fungi

 

[Guyomech]

What Hpuse said. Nature is in a state of perfect imbalance... That's what allows all this crazy stuff to happen.

 

[Slappy White]

perfect according to who? according to you? who decided what was considered "perfect"?

Is the universe perfect relative to the person who's house and family is destroyed by a meteor? No, it's just that F=MA and that's just the way it has always been and the way it is going to be. if F=2MA then everything would be different, but we would call that perfect.

 

[Citta]

If we lived in symbiotic balance with plants, alongside nature, then we'd elevate consiousness to a more natural and connected state of mind with everything around us, and after taking certain plants you can just see, we CAN make a perfect world and its OUR choice to make, its the attitude of "There will always be shit bla bla" that makes a perfect world impossible.

I still say to this day if the entire world took mushrooms one evening it would never be the same.

2012 is a culmination of something, something in another dimension is coming through, and I think it has something to do with an extra-terrestrial mind. That plants may or may not be the medium to which we communicate with this mind.

I think this is completely bull. Benz already gave you a straight up sober answer, but I wanna ask you what kind of evidence you have for this? You see, what you are saying just sounds like a typical pipe dream from someone who have been tripping a little bit too enthusiastically etc. It doesn't make any sense. 2012 is by all likelihood not a culmination of anything else than the past, just as every single moment in history is and will continue to be - unless of course, you can provide some conclusive evidence apart from your own crazy trips where you heard the plants sing.

Clear headed, rational and scientific thinking is what will fix our shit, not some adventure back into the distant past where we ran around barefooted in the planes of Africa or whatever.

 

[benzyme]

perfect according to who? according to you? who decided what was considered "perfect"?

Is the universe perfect relative to the person who's house and family is destroyed by a meteor? No, it's just that F=MA (or a close approximation of that) and that's just the way it has always been and the way it is going to be. if F=2MA then everything would be different, but we would call that perfect.

people have different interpretations of what "perfect" is, which is why there will never be a "global consciousness" leading to a utopian society. you can't get everyone to agree.
It's not as simple as narrowing it down to a mathematic equation.

 

[Slappy White]

people have different interpretations of what "perfect" is, which is why there will never be a "global consciousness" leading to a utopian society. you can't get everyone to agree.
It's not as simple as narrowing it down to a mathematic equation.

Absolutely, But when it comes to meteors, it can be as simple as a mathematical equation. I was simply using this specific example to show how relative "perfection" can be.

 

[eyespine]

Throughout history, one would be quite silly to believe that there are no conspiracies.

But no need to preach to the choir!

Plenty of us are aware of the CIA and their use of astral projection, mind control (MK Ultra, Mocking Bird, etc) and the military's destructive love affair with dimensions, space/time, supernatural forces and DNA...

So is it possible that certain groups of people within seats of self-declared power are aware of man's divine nature, and have decided to poison, destroy, hinder DNA and obstruct our birth right so that they may feel privileged, and control the direction of Gaia's children?

Yes, incredibly possible, but you guys and girls already knew that.

So regardless of wording, I think that the cabal's attack and age-long suppression of mankind's "evolution" is part of the divine play in this myth humanity is growing into.

They built a damn to control our evolution river, but the pressure is building, rising faster than ever and the cracks in the dam were made with a pin needle many years ago, and the design and materials used in construction were poor... two hands per person... how many more leaks can they plug?

An explosion of the mind and Spirit is coming I feel... which is all there is right?

While with Aya one night, a moment came where I thought:
everything is perfect, there are no cogs in the cosmos that grind and crack.. the plan.

 

[murphythecat]

perfect according to who? according to you? who decided what was considered "perfect"?

Is the universe perfect relative to the person who's house and family is destroyed by a meteor? No, it's just that F=MA (or a close approximation of that) and that's just the way it has always been and the way it is going to be. if F=2MA then everything would be different, but we would call that perfect.

people have different interpretations of what "perfect" is, which is why there will never be a "global consciousness" leading to a utopian society. you can't get everyone to agree.
It's not as simple as narrowing it down to a mathematic equation.

too easy really.
We know whats right.
Maybe we dont know whats perfect but we know whats not perfect. that is enough to believe that everyone on our planet starts to realize whats not perfect.

``Biological evolution is slow enough as to be almost irrelevant in terms of dealing with our present crisis``
not true.biological evolution can happen in one year in certain species.

 

[Vodsel]

``Biological evolution is slow enough as to be almost irrelevant in terms of dealing with our present crisis``
not true.biological evolution can happen in one year in certain species.

In species that breed in an extremely short time scale, maybe. But not in humans that need a nine month pregnancy and over ten years to reach sexual maturity.

 

[benzyme]

in biology, evolution isn't defined in terms of years, but rather, generations.
it also considers populations rather than individuals

 

[DeMenTed]

Humans have no control over "natural selection" the clue is in the description.