Failed Ayahuasca Experience

[NamahsNaicigam]

This was my first time brewing my own Ayahuasca and this was my recipe:

-20g ACRB finely shredded brewed with 250ml of distilled water and half a lemon.

-I washed it three times for an hour each wash adding water each time it got low and juice from half a lemon into each new wash.

I collected the washes in a mason jar and after the third wash I rinsed out the pot and reduced the brew down to 90ml
(Next time Ill try reducing to 30-45ml)

I ate 4g of Peganum harmala (that I tried to grind without much success) Some of it was powdery but most of it was still whole seeds.

Waited about an hour and then drank the ACRB brew (YUCK!)

Im not sure why it didn't work. I heard that even the ACRB by itself can be orally active. I thought I felt light and airy from the Rue but after I drank the ACRB brew and purged it back up about an hour and a half later I laid down in bed and went to sleep. No recollection of strange dreams or lucidity. Feedback?

Things that might make a difference:
I was on the tryptamine diet.
I was very tired prior to taking the Ayahuasca.
I smoked MJ vigorously before during and after.

 

[VoidTraveler]

I can't give any pointers on the other things, but smoking cannabis during and after will give you a very euphoric ride because of the synergy with the harmalas. So could be that your bark was weak.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

that was tons of lemon juice (way more than you needed), but that shouldn't have caused a failed launch.

the only thing i can think of is drinking the DMT so late after the MAOI, but that is conjecture at best.

but at least you know the rue worked, maybe next time you can try rue with extracted DMT for a better chance of a strong experience.

 

[christian]

-20g ACRB finely shredded brewed with 250ml of distilled water and half a lemon.

I ate 4g of Peganum harmala / Some of it was powdery but most of it was still whole seeds.

Waited about an hour and then drank the ACRB brew (YUCK!)

I smoked MJ vigorously before during and after.

Several things spring to mind here. Firstly you'd be a lot better off if you powdered your shredded bark, especially if it wasn't a strong bark. Secondly with rue, you want them powdered ideally or miss out on a lot of actives. Also i think your drinking times may need adjusting, i read that with rue it needs more attention. Also, i would leave out the MJ if i was you, ayahuasca, or in this case 'pharma huasca' needs a bit more attention and respect.

 

[NamahsNaicigam]

Thanks guys. Next time I'll try...

Vinegar
More Powdered ACRB (25g)
More Powdered Rue Tea (5g)
Wait less time between Rue and ACRB (30min)
Hold Off on MJ

What is an effective method for powdering? I have tried a food processor and a blender but can't seem to get it down that fine. If that doesn't work then maybe its the pot Im using? Or the plastic ladle? I heard that teflon and aluminum can cause a reaction that will render your brew quite useless. I figured it would be good to test water with aya since the expenditure is lower. If I can't produce favorable outcomes with the brew then I should probably find another source for bark before an extraction is attempted. Would you agree?


Not 100% sure but I believe it is a cast iron pot.

 

[christian]

Geez, that pot looks like it's finished. Maybe it's time to buy a stainless steel one? And vinegar is supposedly better than lemon juice. Perhaps ou should read up in the wiki section under 'pharma huasca' for more info?

 

[NamahsNaicigam]

Haha! :lol: I agree! Thats a much bigger (and much more used) pot then the one I am using but it came from the same set. Ill give the vinegar a try instead of the lemon juice before I go out and buy another pot. But if I do I think Ill go with an earthenware pot.

 

[Jin]

I ate 4g of Peganum harmala (that I tried to grind without much success) Some of it was powdery but most of it was still whole seeds.

i think that is it , that is why it did'nt work maybe

whenever i eat whole seeds , it kinda dosen't do anything ,

its best to powder the seeds completely , no need to brew it just put the seed powder in a cup , pour bolinng water over it keep stirring it with a spoon , when the water in the cup cools down (20 mins or so ) , filter the powdery sludge and drink the clear greenish rue tea , works really good ,

i learned of this method from 69Ron and does good every time , also it makes rue an active experience rather than a sedating one which i get if i brew the rue instead

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

i think that is it , that is why it did'nt work maybe

whenever i eat whole seeds , it kinda dosen't do anything

every time i have used rue, it was with whole seeds, and i have had no misfires yet (plus he mentions he was feeling effects off the harmalas).


that is an interesting method you recommend though.

 

[NamahsNaicigam]

Im not sure what the Rue feels like by itself yet, so I couldn't tell you for sure if I felt it or not. It could have been a combination of how hungry and sleepy I was in combination with the amount of THC in my system that created a placebo effect. But I do remember (when purging) that everything seemed brighter like it was "coming alive". But when I laid down, turned off the lights and put some music on I felt a very heavy sedation like I took a sleeping pill. Ill give the tea a try.

Any preferred methods to on how to grind down to a powder?

 

[The M tea]

I put the rue seeds in between layers of papers,secure the open ends,then with a good rock i bash them into powder.

I ordered Chachruna and Caapi once and have tried twice to cook a psychoactive brew
but nothing happened.But with Caapi,Rue and mushrooms theres another story...