First harmala and mushroom experience - psilohuasca ended in sweats and nausea

[Daaren]

Saturday night i had my first psilohuasca experience.

I took 180mg of rue alkaloids and 30min later dosed with 1.5g of cubes.

One hour later i reached a peak which lasted about 3h.

Those three hours were wonderfully filled with genesis landscapes.

I got to witness the birth of plant life on an alien like planet and had a long conversation with
The being that brought life to this world. This being showed me how life appeared but also shared me how lonely this existence is.

Those cev were wonderfully colored and detailed. Got also some ayahuasca like visuals but the experience was very different.
Open eye visuals were mainly alot of visual distortion. Paintings moving. Triangular lights on the ceiling from my lamp were now gently dancing and rotating. My paintings got alive. All of this left me in awe.

Everything went wonderfully until my partner ( who took only 2.5g without rue) started looping on the fact that she was working the day after. That was at the 4th hour into the experience.

At that point nausea invaded me and i got plastered to the floor.
As the effects subsided i started to experience heavy sweats and chills that lasted for the next 3h.
The nausea was so bad it kept me going to the bathroom everynow and then to try to purge without success.

I had mushrooms countless times and i got to experience those sweats and nausea only 2-3 times in the past.

I was wondering if anyone else got those terrible sweats and chills on mushrooms or
If it might be because of the harmala i took.

Also if anyone else get those secondary effects: how do you manage them?

Things got a bit better once i left the bed. Dressed up and went in the kitchen to have tea and relax a bit.

One of my worries is that might have been a serotonin syndrome?

What are your thoughts on the subject?

I wish a wonderful day to everyone

 

[Sabnock1990]

It wasn't Serotonin Syndrome.

Can't say i've ever experienced the sweats and chills, with mushrooms, with Rue or with the two combined. I actually quite like Psilohuasca, it's pretty much exactly like Aya is to me except longer, less intense, and lighter/gentler/more relaxed feeling than with oral DMT, whereas DMT is sharper and more serious and intense, imo due to it's Adrenergic effects which Psilocin seems to lack.

I'm not sure about the sweats and chills, and Rue extract usually doesn't give me any nausea although i can still purge on them, but 180mgs usually doesn't make me purge. Though i have noticed that the experience can unfold in certain ways depending on dosages and timing between the Rue/Harmalas and the mushrooms. I personally prefer to wait an hour apart instead of 30 minutes apart, and that could make some difference. Also is the Rue extract full spectrum (like homemade) or did you buy it online? Usually extract bought online, even if it says full spectrum, is usually just Harmine and Harmaline, whereas true Rue full spectrum extract has a bit extra with the Harmine and Harmaline, and i find the full spectrum or the actual seed to be best compared to isolated Harmalas. I would also recommend raising the mushroom dosage up to 2 to 2.5 grams at least, but so far i seem to prefer more along the lines of 3 to 3.5 grams of mushrooms with at least 2.5 grams of actual Rue seed, which translated over to extract could be about 150mgs maybe? But usually i like to go high to heavy on the Harmalas, but had some of my best Psilohuasca experiences using 2.5 grams of Rue. 2 to 2.5 grams of mushies with Rue can be nice, but at least ime nothing truly interesting happens until i raise the dosage a tad more.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Everything went wonderfully until my partner ( who took only 2.5g without rue) started looping on the fact that she was working the day after. That was at the 4th hour into the experience.

At that point nausea invaded me and i got plastered to the floor.

In my view these two things are linked; the whole syndrome was probably anxiety-related.

If serotonin syndrome had anything to do with it you would most likely have had an intense, banging headache.

 

[Daaren]

Though i have noticed that the experience can unfold in certain ways depending on dosages and timing between the Rue/Harmalas and the mushrooms. I personally prefer to wait an hour apart instead of 30 minutes apart, and that could make some difference.

I will try to wait an hour instead next time and also raise the dosage.
Since it was my first time combining both i went into the experience in a careful way...

I also forgot to mention i didnt fast before. My last meal was 2h before i dosed.

Also is the Rue extract full spectrum (like homemade) or did you buy it online?

I made the extract myself a little while ago. I did not separate harmine from harmaline in this one.
Thank you ShamensStamen for the tips :d

In my view these two things are linked; the whole syndrome was probably anxiety-related.

If serotonin syndrome had anything to do with it you would most likely have had an intense, banging headache.

No headache... glad to rule out this one.

Thank you Downwardsfromzero