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First intense DMT experience

reun

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Hey all,

I recently joined the forum, and I've had 2 trips so far. I wanted to share my most recent one, but I'll also briefly cover my first one. FYI, I have experience with large doses of other psychedelics such as LSD, mescaline and psilocybin, mostly in therapeutic or spiritual settings.

First, after going through... a lot to put myself into the position where I had a vape cartridge ready to go, I asked a friend to trip sit me a few weeks ago when I had my first experience. I was very nervous. I used a 1:1 cart with a 2.4V vaporiser, I was originally planning to take a few puffs, pulling for 7 seconds and then holding it for 7, but I failed at that -- I took a few puffs that were about 3 second long and I held it for about 2-3 seconds as well. Still, I had a beautiful experience. The world sorta began to melt. I had a profound realisation that love is the fundamental force underlying time and space. I know it may sound very hippy, but I was genuinely moved by this experience. I felt pure love. Still, I felt that this experience was leaning towards the mild end of what DMT offers.

Earlier today (2 weeks later), I had another go at it. I bumped the voltage to 3 and I used a stopwatch to actually time my inhales and breath holds. I managed to do 2 7-second pulls and then I held for 7 seconds. I think in theory I had it in me to pull another time, but... I was just too overwhelmed. I put the cartridge down moments before I... kind of lost all cognitive faculties. I felt like I was frozen or spellbound. I kept my eyes open throughout the entire trip, I think I didn't even blink, but that wasn't really my intention, I just forgot that I even have eyes and that I can "see" anything because the world just... sorta fractilised (not sure if this is the right word, but I can't think of a better one) in incredible ways. I also had music playing in the background and I realised later that I couldn't even hear it, I had this buzzing sound in my ears, and somehow the music was almost just not registered by me for a while. I returned to my body about 7 minutes later shaking and sweating and I even remember tears rolling down my face, but it was not a negative experience at all, it was absolutely beautiful. I did not get any cosmic downloads this time, but it was an incredible experience. I was just so shaken by what had happened. The awe of it all was just so overwhelming and then I was back to normal like nothing had happened. Absolutely wild. I don't think I even approached the DMT realm, I was still sorta in this world, but this world was just transformed beyond recognition.

I was thinking about mixing another 3:1 cart (3 times DMT to carrier liquid), but after this experience, I think I should pump the brakes on it, I think my current cart may be sufficient for a breakthrough, it's just that getting another hit would be a challenge, I think. My first experience was actually very pleasant as well, but it almost felt like a different substance, that I could see one using with a meditation session, whereas my second experience was all the way up there, but not quite a breakthrough.
 
Sounds lovely.
I've been all about the Low dose meditative sessions, they feel really beneficial and its lovely to spend 60-90mins dipping in and out of the state. I find the tears also bring bursts of colour, it feels like when you have a bit of realisation you get a little extra fireworks and its very much food for the soul.
 
Sounds lovely.
I've been all about the Low dose meditative sessions, they feel really beneficial and its lovely to spend 60-90mins dipping in and out of the state. I find the tears also bring bursts of colour, it feels like when you have a bit of realisation you get a little extra fireworks and its very much food for the soul.
Yes, I find that a lot of people are often looking for a breakthough, and I would also love to experience it once, but even a threshold experience like I had today is just so overwhelming that I cannot see myself wanting to return to that soon, even if it was beautiful. Low-dose experiences like I had the first time are not too disruptive and they also do indeed feel like food for the soul. Thinking that DMT and many similar substances are banned in most countries is just so sad, it truly feels like some sort of a Nazi-era ban on art or literature. But I don't want to rant about that...

Anyway, a few things caught my attention in your post. First, you mentioned spending 60-90 minutes dipping in and out of that state -- is that possible? I thought that you develop almost immediate tolerance, so you can only try again about an hour later. Does this work differently with lower doses? If I could take a small puff every 10 minutes or so and just do that for 30-60 minutes, that would be amazing. I haven't tried it. The 2nd thing that caught my eye was to do with the tears. I haven't encountered many reports involving tears, so I thought it was just me. Is that not an uncommon thing? I've done mescaline a few times and I'm aware that mescaline brings some people to tears, I have experienced it as well.
 
Adding in some Harmalas helps (check for any bad medication reactions with MAOI’s before using) extend the state, and for me at least I wouldn’t worry too much about building a tolerance over that time. Repeated small hits can be very very nice and it feels like needing to eat is what stops me going beyond 90mins.
And if you go for a bigger vape hit you can easily tip over into the more waiting room style area or further when using Harmalas.
 
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