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brilliant... don't you wonder what vaping spice and psilocin together would be like... something new
soulman said:69ron said:soulman said:69ron said:Dried mushrooms that were steam treated after drying and then dried again seemed to maintain their potency far longer.
SWIM really hopes his frozen mushroom are ok. They were dried before freezing them. They are MANY YEARS OLD, I think they are 15 years old? I’m not sure.
What does steam treating dried mushroom do that makes them keep their potency?...Could you do this by placing them in a corrinder over a steamin pan?
Also, why you keepin them in the freezer for that long man. You really find them that hard to come by?
Yeah, just steam cook the dried mushroom like you’d cook any other vegetable. Cook for about 5 minute or until the mushrooms lose all their blue color. Break one open to be sure it’s lost it’s color all the way through and it’s done. Steaming inactivates enzymes present in the mushrooms that oxidize psilocin to an inactive blue substance. It’s also believed by some that it reverses the oxidation, but there is no proof of that. Some people think it hydrolyzes psilocybin to psilocin, again, no proof of that either. If the steaming converted the psilocybin to psilocin, it seems that the steamed mushrooms would not keep well, but they do, so I don't know if that happens.
At what point does this have to be done?
As soon as they are dry?...or does it matter if they have been dried for awhile?
Im all for trying this, but still dont really get it. Surely, if the mushrooms are already dry the enzymes arent gonna be active anyway. I might be wrong about that, but i wouldnt have though enzymes can function in arid conditions?!!
Can you explain that bit to me please?
69ron said:The enzymes that oxidize psilocin to a blue compound are still present in the untreated dried mushrooms.
Phlux- said:doesnt the greenish color show oxidization ?
me! did a thread on getting xtal psilocin in 4 hours on the nook a while ago
here is the link
benzyme said:it's an a/b to first convert psilocybin to psilocin, then to free base.
narmz said:benzyme said:it's an a/b to first convert psilocybin to psilocin, then to free base.
Why do you freebase?
VisualDistortion said:Is tartic acid soluble in DCM? Could psilocin tartrate be precipitated out by adding a saturated solution of DCM/tartaric acid?
benzyme said:hmm..
if it were possible to get a bitartrate salt of psilocin, I'd say yes..it may be possible to get it to crash out in cold DCM, but it's not possible.
as psilocin tartrate, it would probably go into solution. worth experimenting with, though, since dcm evaps easily
VisualDistortion said:Why would it need to be bitartrate? I thought ascorbic acid and tartic acid where very similar anyways.