Fumarate to freebase conversion teks

[Here&Now]

Looking at the Nexus Wiki, I see there's a few teks for converting DMT fumarate to freebase. Type 1 looks the most appealing in terms of one I feel confident in trying. I just have a few questions.

Would this same tek work to convert the salted forms of other psychedelics, such as 5-MeO-DMT HCl?

Is there any risk of contamination of the final product with sodium carbonate? If so, any way to lessen or remove the risk?

And any other general hints and tips would be much appreciated.

 

[Transform]

Looking at the Nexus Wiki, I see there's a few teks for converting DMT fumarate to freebase. Type 1 looks the most appealing in terms of one I feel confident in trying. I just have a few questions.

Would this same tek work to convert the salted forms of other psychedelics, such as 5-MeO-DMT HCl?

Is there any risk of contamination of the final product with sodium carbonate? If so, any way to lessen or remove the risk?

And any other general hints and tips would be much appreciated.

Yes, the method should work with many other tryptamines.

Contamination from residual sodium salts (the fumarate is quite poorly soluble, and I suppose sodium chloride may precipitate in the presence of large concentrations of the carbonate) is minimised by careful rinsing with pure water.

@Jan e Kharabat always springs to mind when people ask for tips about working with 5-MeO-DMT - they certainly have far more experience than I do, so it would be worth having a look through their posting history.

 

[Jan e Kharabat]

Looking at the Nexus Wiki, I see there's a few teks for converting DMT fumarate to freebase. Type 1 looks the most appealing in terms of one I feel confident in trying. I just have a few questions.

Would this same tek work to convert the salted forms of other psychedelics, such as 5-MeO-DMT HCl?

Is there any risk of contamination of the final product with sodium carbonate? If so, any way to lessen or remove the risk?

And any other general hints and tips would be much appreciated.

Yes, I think all three types would work, although I haven't tried the first one with 5meo yet. The amount of substance you are trying to convert is also important for the choice of conversion method.

For large amounts, I would simply dissolve in water, basify, pull with heptane (or any other NPS) and freeze precipitate.
For small amounts, I would mix with sodium carb, moisten, dry, pull with acetone and evap.

Btw, the HCl salt can be pretty good for snorting. So, you can use it as it is as well. But assuming you bought the synthetic 5meo, it would be good to clean it up, and one or two A/B cycles can get you very pure 5meo.

 

[Here&Now]

Thanks so much, guys. I had a feeling a NPS should perhaps come into play here.

So, while waiting for a response on this thread, I jumped ahead a bit and began the process using the "type 1" tek in the wiki. I used 1 gram of 5-MeO-DMT HCl. It's currently basified and sitting in the fridge as per the final steps of the tek. To get a clean final product, would it make sense to now use a NPS to pull on the liquid sitting in the fridge and then freeze precipitate? I assume so, but I just want to verify before risking 1g of substance.

 

[Jan e Kharabat]

Thanks so much, guys. I had a feeling a NPS should perhaps come into play here.

So, while waiting for a response on this thread, I jumped ahead a bit and began the process using the "type 1" tek in the wiki. I used 1 gram of 5-MeO-DMT HCl. It's currently basified and sitting in the fridge as per the final steps of the tek. To get a clean final product, would it make sense to now use a NPS to pull on the liquid sitting in the fridge and then freeze precipitate? I assume so, but I just want to verify before risking 1g of substance.

You don't have to, it'll be an unnecessary hassle. Just let it sit in the fridge until it's all crashed out. Wait a couple of days and then pour off the liquid in another container, wash the freebase and then dry and weigh it. If there's a significant difference in weight, then there might still be some freebase in the solution, but that is unlikely. But as a precaution, it is good to never throw anything away until you're done.

 

[famine]

I'll be extremely concerned if A/B is necessary to purify synthetic 5-MeO-DMT. Perhaps you need to order from a proper company and not an Indian reseller

 

[Jan e Kharabat]

I was referring to the clandestine sources... synthetic 5-meo DMT is not that easy to come by, at least not in europe.

 

[Transform]

Just a reminder of the general approach to how we discuss most substances here - either you've extracted it, or you simply have it. Please bear that in mind in this type of discussion.