Race will always play a role but we think mainly of Europeans enslaving black africans but all of asia and middle east also had this practice and not only with blacks. Race is a weird issue here in Brasil compared to the states. Despite a majority being considered 'mixed' and around 10-20% black and white race places a large issue. Racism is a crime here resulting in prison sentence yet the issues are still similar to in the states despite what some tourists see or think. Slavery wasn't for the benefit of the enslaved obviously but rather the nation or 'owners'. Here we still have the remnants of slavery with entire communities of 'escaped slaves' descendants still living in suboptimal conditions similar to poorer regions of the south in the states like new orleans and such.
I spent two months in Brazil traveling and doing volunteer work so have seen and experienced what you're referring to first-hand... Since I'm primarily black, it's something that impacts me. I happen to be pretty German too, but that's besides the point
However, the world over, the darker you are the more oppressed you likely are. Even in Africa.
Historiclly all great empires had some form of slavery even the smaller empires in africa not just counting egypt had slaves and those are the ones that progressed the most in comparison to smaller tribes/peoples that had smaller scale or only class systems. Civilizations with the same time progression around the world didn't progress in the same manner/speed and we could argue possible reason but I'll accept we can't really know. We wouldn't have advanced in sciences without human experimentations as rapidly... (can't know so not valid?)
So we should sacrifice the lives of others for the sake of progress?
Do you condone the Tuskegee experiments?
What about MK Ultra (so we can take a little heat off the racial side, because what we're talking about is deeper than that)
I'm trying to understand, because I don't see how it being historic makes it acceptable? We have historically been a lot more unstable, should we continue to be unstable (even though on the whole we are

) I feel similarly about something becoming the norm. I've used this one before, but obesity is becoming more normal in the US, so should it just be accepted?
With the barrier (glass ceiling) placed sure it may be 'harder' for you to enter a certain field but why not just make your own path? I've read in the past a few posts on the lack of black representation or lgbt in the psychedelic community as if forced inclusion would help anything. Everyone already has the same opportunities (rarely is blatant discrimination seen in western world with only a few cases being proven rather than percieved) Forced participation when something was outright banned like black children going to white school and many other examples where you had to force and protect is one thing but now a days we don't have these barriers.
I'd argue that we certainly have these barriers, they've just been masked. Take schools for example. In the US, funding for schools is typically alotted based on the performance of the students of the school on the whole on certain standardized tests. Naturally, the more educated kids from wealthier backgrounds, with more educated and knowledgeable parents, tend to score higher, get the most funding, and therefore the best equipment, the best teachers and coaches, and an overall better education than kids from lower incomes. There are so many tiny variables that add up to the big picture here.
Discrimination has been masked. One way is you just don't say it. I've seen female cultivators get turned away in the marijuana industry because they were women, and yes, I heard men say that was why they chose not to hire them.
We do not have the same opportunities because opportunities are attached to many factors such as socio-economic status, environment, fostering, upbringing, etc. I do not have the same opportunity as Ice-Cube's son.
There's saying like "the good ol boy's group for a reason."
There was a district in Alabama (I think) years ago that closed down the only DMV for a wide radius in a mostly black low-income area, with the excuse being funding. These kinds of acts impact whole communities of people.
There was a bus route changed in a part of Texas years ago, limiting it's movement through another mostly black low-income area. Being low-income means you may not have a car.
These types of changes compound and again impact whole communities that are typically uneducated as well. We are not provided the same opportunities.
I'm not mad at all by the way
many have some have made it to the top. They didn't get handouts and quotas for the most part being pioneers. Sure it may be harder but the tops of any field isn't a handout and many spend their entire lifetimes on objectives to just fail.
A very small number overall. Let's be real. For so many it's hard to even get into the room.
I didn't mentioned being hurt by woman being the breadwinner but forced to be a single mother not by choice rather than being present in raising the children. Here in Brasil this is as much an issue as it is in the states with poor black women being the most affected keeping in the cycle of poverty. I'm proud of my mother and all the sacrifice she had to endure to raise me. It may seem I'm misogynistic with some of my choices of opinions shared but like I mentioned I'm not against any choices others make since it never affects me.
It seems that this can also be an argument for how woman are just as good at men at some things we think they aren't... you seemed to have turned out pretty well.
As for me, my dad rarely had a job... and was abusive. Mine was around, and he still couldn't cut the mustard.
. @Voidmatrix just because we are the excepetion doesn't mean make it the norm or possible for most. I'm not against breaking norms but I've not seen any benefits to breaking the nuclear family. Maybe to a fault I generalize and outliner statistics don't change the majority.
Then this also applies to what you said about women being able to make it and equal opportunity
On a real note though, my response was misplaced because I didn't realize what you meant regarding how black and latino men are hurting. I thought you meant in the sense that women were making money, not that some are growing up without fathers.
And outlier statistics change a lot of things when they are no longer outliers.
I don't get feeling hurt and prefer anyone share their opinions since helps me think differently and I can be 'behind' in my thinking but like I mentioned everything is based on my lived experience and observations. I'm not a woman I cannot speak for them not can I speak for men nor any race or group but myself.
Well, I'm enjoying talking to you, and I hope you don't think I'm hurt. I'm not.
Cycling back to gender a transgender man posted a video at how lonely it was as a man vs when he was a women. Saying how the emotional coldness of solidarity of being a man and not getting any attention or 'help' was jarring and never realized it as a woman. I may be wrong and am interested in different examples but the 'inherent gender' roles like I mentioned are not the social roles/expectations but the deeper behaviors we each have natural tendencies towards. I'm fairly sure these are backed by psychology unless this is an outdated analysis.
I like this example. For me, it shows the societal pressure for men to stifle their emotions. Not all men, very few probably, are in dire positions, that are life or death, on a regular basis where they need to stifle emotion so greatly. They are mainly at desk jobs. It ends up coming out wrong in the end anyway.
Indoctrination can span generations, why not millennia.
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