As I've been saying a lot lately, it gets real.Many are called but few are chosen
In all seriousness, many people are curious about psychedelics, but most donāt stick with them, over time.
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For sure. I was just thinking about that today, how after a certain number of trips/years tripping, it stops being fun and starts feeling a lot more serious.
I donāt know what to make of Santo Daime, but I understand they refer to their Aya ceremonies as āworks,ā which feels like an apt description to me, as it does start to feel like work after a while, which isnāt necessarily a bad thing.
I think shying away from work is a totally understandable human quality, which can require ongoing effort to push up against. I am reminded of the former professional skateboarder, Jereme Rogers, who grew tired of the stress and pressure of being a pro skater and decided to become a professional rapper, instead. Suffice it to say, he didnāt have the same level of success in his rap ācareerā as he did with skateboarding.
While I certainly wish a certain amount of ease for myself and others, personal growth and development needs at least some degree of ongoing stress and friction. Otherwise, we would just become human blobs like in that movie, Wall-E, which seems like it would be a miserable existence devoid of meaning.
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Hold on people, before we drop into the abbys.
In the midst of all this turbulence and accusations, Iām extremely eager to understand @SnozzleBerryās current thoughts and recent history as events continue to unfold.
We need deeper insights beyond what mainstream news and social media portray. My instincts and rational analysis tell me that we are missing critical pieces of the puzzle, reliable information that provides true context to the discussion at hand.
As a result, we find ourselves in a precarious situation, potentially forming conclusions based on a distorted, weaponized set of data and narratives.
So lets all cool down, park our thoughts and let's hope @SnozzleBerry will chime in with solid and rational debate.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
P.s. Just invited @SnozzleBerry to join us here, so lets hope we will have that solid debate, without anything heating up to a boiling point.
In the midst of all this turbulence and accusations, Iām extremely eager to understand @SnozzleBerryās current thoughts and recent history as events continue to unfold.
We need deeper insights beyond what mainstream news and social media portray. My instincts and rational analysis tell me that we are missing critical pieces of the puzzle, reliable information that provides true context to the discussion at hand.
As a result, we find ourselves in a precarious situation, potentially forming conclusions based on a distorted, weaponized set of data and narratives.
So lets all cool down, park our thoughts and let's hope @SnozzleBerry will chime in with solid and rational debate.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
P.s. Just invited @SnozzleBerry to join us here, so lets hope we will have that solid debate, without anything heating up to a boiling point.
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I think there was issues he had(Rogerās) with Rick Howard/Crailtap not paying him properly. I also wonder if that was right around the time Girl/chocolate starting using chinese woodshops for a while trying to save costs. The quality took a dive at the time. I think the whole industry was starting to suffer and guys like Rogerās and P rod were gods without real peersā¦and super young. I wonder if he also was getting bored. He was a full on superstar for a minute and not even out of high school.
Penny is another who was just too good for his time.
Both are timeless and still rip. Way off topic lol
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What gets real, to me, is the slow realization, to the 'ego', that everything experienced is a reflection of your core-beliefs. The beliefs held by yourself as being the reality. Once that realization kicks in it becomes clear that Reality itself is malleable and then things get real and a little unnerving. For it indicates that we are responsible for our own reality. That can be a hard pill to swallow. Luckily we still have the freedom to choose whichever core-beliefs suits us best. Even with the genie out of the box.
Flux with Joy and Love, for this is truly a magical experience.
To a degree if we want to ignore nuance. Seems like a slippery solipsicistic slope. Plenty of things happen to us that have nothing to do with our beliefs. Our beliefs are what we use to make sense of whatever occurred.
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With core-beliefs I mean 'understandings' that are nestled around our core. Most of these are not clearly present to the 'ego'. These core-understandings create our reality-experience. And they're malleable. However, one can only 'change' them if they are found and recognized as such.
I see what you mean. Yes, it takes a lot of deep work to address these types of fundamental beliefs and the difficulty is only exacerbated by the faculties of heuristics and cognitive biases.With core-beliefs I mean 'understandings' that are nestled around our core. Most of these are not clearly present to the 'ego'. These core-understandings create our reality-experience. And they're malleable. However, one can only 'change' them if they are found and recognized as such.
Quoting myself; the first things that one learns are usually the last things one questions.
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This is brilliant. Thank you for sharing this, I hadn't heard it until now.
Once a psychonaut always a psychonaut. Even if someone only does it once in their life, they are a member of the psychedelic community and their story is just as valid as someone that has had many experiences over many years, a seasoned veteran so to speak. Some people are called to the healing aspect of these medicines, some are drawn in by simple curiosity and once is enough. I think even if I had only one experience, it would still have stuck with me the rest of my life, making a huge imprint on me.
Why is it that we get the calling to do psychedelics? Tapped it feels like sometimes. The few that stick with it over time have a greater calling to it. Some answer the call, message received and hang up the phone. Communities are full of all walks of life and as such they adopt all the problems that humans bring into the mix. Communities change over time. Evolve or devolve. Appear and disappear. Temporary. These psychedelic communities are a small part of something much larger. It continues on to something new and different. New people, including lots of women hopefully, will emerge and fill in gaps, step up to become the next healers, the next educators, the next advocates.
It would be nice to have psychedelic clinics as an open option for people all over the world. The psychedelic community will become something altogether different at that time. It will become part of our culture and a birthright as it should be. Many more will answer the call and who knows what they can bring to the table. I think anyone who answers the call is a psychonaut and is joining a community that dates back thousands of years.
Why is it that we get the calling to do psychedelics? Tapped it feels like sometimes. The few that stick with it over time have a greater calling to it. Some answer the call, message received and hang up the phone. Communities are full of all walks of life and as such they adopt all the problems that humans bring into the mix. Communities change over time. Evolve or devolve. Appear and disappear. Temporary. These psychedelic communities are a small part of something much larger. It continues on to something new and different. New people, including lots of women hopefully, will emerge and fill in gaps, step up to become the next healers, the next educators, the next advocates.
It would be nice to have psychedelic clinics as an open option for people all over the world. The psychedelic community will become something altogether different at that time. It will become part of our culture and a birthright as it should be. Many more will answer the call and who knows what they can bring to the table. I think anyone who answers the call is a psychonaut and is joining a community that dates back thousands of years.
Not sure I can agree with this. People change paths all the time, and sometimes that path entails leaving a community. I'm hard pressed to say that someone who has tripped once is part of the psychedelic community. Being part of a community is an ongoing process, so I'd also be hard pressed to think that someone who has tripped only once has stuck around. I'm also less likely to put much stake into someone's two cents that only tripped once about community matters relative to psychedelics. When we talk about communities, we're talking about more than just the experiences that people have (which can be extremely meaningful to an individual even if they only did it once).
Certainly, but could one not say the same for any community?
I'd also say that there are people that are into psychedelics that aren't part of the psychedelic community. It was the case for me before I joined here. And I think that the members of a group that do something doesn't inherently make them a community doing it.
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I understand your perspective. I speak very broadly about the psychedelic community. Hopeless romantic I suppose. I enjoy the perspective of anyone who has tried psychedelics and simply value their contribution even if it's only a one time thing. Those who are actively involved within a community and psychonaut veterans should receive a healthy respect in every way. They are the pioneers, the ones making the engine go, turning the wheels, making many contributions and the rest are on the ride for a short time. I completely get where you are coming from.
I definitely feel you. This is beautiful.
Some of my response comes from the observation that the "psychedelic community" has been fractured from the beginning. It's really many different and disparate communities that all happen to share one thing in common: psychedelics.
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Definitely off topic, though not entirely, as I remember Rogers saying in an interview that it was a mushroom trip that precipitated his move from professional skateboarder to amateur rapper. It has always struck me as a sad story and a cautionary tale, pointing to the importance of not making any big decisions too soon after ingesting psychedelics, though Iām sure there were other factors involved, like you said.
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We tell people not to make big decisions after journeys all the time at the center lol.
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If they ever doubt that piece of wisdom, just tell them the story of Jereme Rogers, and they will be sure to understand. If they still feel doubtful, just show them some before and after videos and that will certainly put their doubts to rest.
Wanna provide me with some examples so I can bookmark this section of the thread and easily find them? 
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Oh, no no no no no....
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He needs to do some more mushrooms and see what they tell him now. Good grief that was pretty bad.
Case in point and quite a contrast from his elite-level of skateboarding before his early retirement in 2009. From what Iāve seen, he still rips, but definitely not at the same level. Conversely, it goes without saying that deciding to be a rapper doesnāt automatically make you one. True hip-hop artists have honed their craft over years of practice, just like he did with skating.
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