Had to try it so far mixed results!(mxe+aya)

[SHroomtroll]

Im talking about combining mxe and ayahuasca of course...

Before you call me stupid and or reckless i just have to say that this was not planned and i was well aware of that it could produce a bad reaction.

The evening started out when me and a friend had drank some aya without the desired results, it didnt seem to wan´t to give any of us any visions and after a few changa hits we gave up.

We waited a few hours before i came with the idea that we should try a micro dose of mxe to see if it would interact with all the jungle juices in our bellys.

Actually it was mostly in my belly since my friend had purged and felt a bit shitty.

Anyway i tried about 5mg and waited a bit before doing more, no initial bad reactions and the slight headache ive had all day actually felt better from the mxe.

We dosed abit more about 20mgs each and had a small bowl of lentils to eat, we both got a very good vibe from this and talked and laughed for a good while before we decided to go to my place to get moar mxe!!!

On the way we picked up some pizzas (wtf!?) for some reason i bought a quatro formaggio which in retrospect was very stupid, bad enough to eat pizza a few hours after aya but choose to eat one with 4different cheezes inc a blue one on it.

After the pizza we dosed more mxe about 30mg each, by this time my gf joined us and had some mxe too.

We had a great time for awhile untill i felt my headache come back, with this i also started to feel nausious and a bit worried.

At the time i didnt think anything about the pizza only that ive dosed a preety big amount of mxe while having 50grams worth of black caapi in my tummy.

My friend however felt great, no side effects at all which i think is because he purged up all the aya a long time ago whereas ive kept 50grams of black caapi and over 10grams of chaliponga down.


After awhile ii told him he had to leave since i needed to get to bed and hopefully purge, the mxe seemed to make this hard somehow but after a backrub from my gf it came out hard!

At least 2liters of nasty stuff came out violently and it was such a relief, i felt alot better and feel aslepp as soon as ive brushed my teeth. i staill had my headache which i think was from my neck, i get this kind of headaches once every few months from a old neck injurie, and like 4days before we did a killer neck workout at my bjj class.



So to end this story i think people should be careful with this combo but i still think it can be done safely, also don´t eat pizza after ayahuasca.

Peace!

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

i thought the need to avoid tyramine on aya was a myth?
or is there some other reason pizza is bad?

 

[۩]

^I'd be a little more concerned about the research chemical + ayahuasca thing, ya know...

 

[SHroomtroll]

Yeah it was not my brightest idea but we did a very small micro dose first and it was about 5hours after we ingested the ayahuasca.

Also i have tried 4x aya with some mxe before and it gave me only good results.

Is there any reasons why a rima should have a bad reaction with dissios?

 

[soulfood]

I did some personal experiments using moderate doses of MXE with larger doses of harmaloids and never noticed any negative side effects. I did however discover one hell of a psychotherapy combo.

Never hit the town for pizza though

I must stress that MXE and harmaloids alone produced a more useful experience than including DMT, which just brings me into a crazy carnival land.


Take note: When I say I experimented, I first smoked a small dose of harmaloids after mxe consumed orally. I then experimented with the two both consumed orally at very small doses and worked my way up in small increments until I had a comfortabley DMT activating amount of harmaloids consumed.

Me, SHroomtroll and his trip buddy could be the only humans on the planet this wouldn't kill for all you know, so be extra careful when performing these kinds of experiments

 

[ragabr]

SWIM has had good experiences with a normal caapi brew and half of her normal oral dose of MXE. The aya definitely potentiated the MXE, but she can't say by how much, not doubled.

Edit: She followed the same protocol for dosing the MXE as she does with spice, ~15 minutes after drinking the aya, when the first definite shift in experience occurs.

The aya and MXE afterglow combined did feel wonderful.

 

[SHroomtroll]

Iam glad i´m not the only one who thought of this combo, makes me feel less stupid for trying it.

I´m preety sure the bad reactions were from the pizza and my headache that i had all day just got worse from the tensions of feeling sick.

I will probably try this again someday but from now on i will follow a strict diet when drinking jungle juices.

 

[mew]

swim asked this question in chat once and was told something about amyloid somethingorother in regards to Alzheimer's. can anyone substantiate this statement?

 

[jamie]

If anything the pizza just caused indigestion. Tyramine will not interact with harmalas in a negative way. I have eaten alot of tyramine with ayahuasca, always fine. Harmine and harmaline inhibit maoA. Tyramine is metabolized by maoB.