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Greetings Friends,

After perusing the Nexus, noticing some individuals use harmalas as a supplement, have decided to try the same and see what it does for me.

Rue:
Planning on making rue tea. My questions are how much to dose and how do I prepare it?

Harmala extract:
I have harmala extracted from yellow caapi. How much freebase harmala do you think is advisable to begin with for oral and vaporized administration.

Apologies if this is somewhere out on the Nexus already. Feel free to shoot me some links.

One love
 
My favorite way to take rue is to roast the seeds so that they pop, grind, and put through espresso machine. Very quick and the taste is tolerable. Add some honey and whatever you find to cover the taste 😀

I use lemon essential oil drops to combat the nausea, but it's not usually a problem when taking harmalas alone.

Somewhere between 3 and 5 grams is okay. More is not worth the nausea.

Haven't been using harmala alone that much though.
 
Tomtegubbe said:
My favorite way to take rue is to roast the seeds so that they pop, grind, and put through espresso machine. Very quick and the taste is tolerable. Add some honey and whatever you find to cover the taste 😀

I use lemon essential oil drops to combat the nausea, but it's not usually a problem when taking harmalas alone.

Somewhere between 3 and 5 grams is okay. More is not worth the nausea.

Haven't been using harmala alone that much though.
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Thank you friend😁!

When you say pop, is that something I can visually observe or do I need to listen? I also don't have an espresso machine. Would boiling and straining work? If so how long do you think I should boil it for?

I was thinking about adding some tea of various kinds to my seeds since I'm a tea fiend lol.

Glad to hear another individual's positive experience mitigating nausea with lemon essential oils. I recently procured some for when I take mushrooms and will probably use it for harmala as well.

As always, thank you for sharing your insight with me:love:

One love
 
Thank you ☺️

They make a very noticeable sound as they pop and you see them open up and jump on the pan. I use just a regular cast iron pan for frying. Heat it hot, add the seeds and shake the pan a couple of pan so that the seeds won't burn. It takes one minute at max for most of the seeds to have popped.

I believe boiling and straining works just fine. I think it's unnecessary to do several boils or use lots of water and then reduce it. If you seem to get a solution that is not strong enough, then just use more seeds. They're inexpensive.

If you come up with a nice recipe for making the brew taste better, please tell!
 
Tomtegubbe said:
Thank you ☺️

They make a very noticeable sound as they pop and you see them open up and jump on the pan. I use just a regular cast iron pan for frying. Heat it hot, add the seeds and shake the pan a couple of pan so that the seeds won't burn. It takes one minute at max for most of the seeds to have popped.

I believe boiling and straining works just fine. I think it's unnecessary to do several boils or use lots of water and then reduce it. If you seem to get a solution that is not strong enough, then just use more seeds. They're inexpensive.

If you come up with a nice recipe for making the brew taste better, please tell!
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Sounds easy peasy lemon squeezy lol. Thank you again!

And I'll be sure to share any tasty tea combinations I come across.

Think I may try this this weekend.

:love:

One love
 
Voidmatrix said:
easy peasy lemon squeezy
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Indeed it is - and as another tip IMO adding any kind of acid/vinegar/lemon juice to the rue brew just makes it taste infinitely worse so don't bother. If your tap water is ridiculously alkaline it still only takes a drop or two of something acidic to sort that out.

I've not found any tea combination that seems particularly worthwhile as a flavour experience. The toasted seeds are what they are and can be 'enjoyed' as such - although a few drops of sweet, jasmine-scented mimosa alkaloid tincture don't go amiss from time to time, both from the point of view of aroma and from that of effects :twisted: .
 
downwardsfromzero said:
Voidmatrix said:
easy peasy lemon squeezy
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Indeed it is - and as another tip IMO adding any kind of acid/vinegar/lemon juice to the rue brew just makes it taste infinitely worse so don't bother. If your tap water is ridiculously alkaline it still only takes a drop or two of something acidic to sort that out.

I've not found any tea combination that seems particularly worthwhile as a flavour experience. The toasted seeds are what they are and can be 'enjoyed' as such - although a few drops of sweet, jasmine-scented mimosa alkaloid tincture don't go amiss from time to time, both from the point of view of aroma and from that of effects :twisted: .
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Good lookin out friend:)

What tea combinations have you tried?

And what are your thoughts on oral harmala extract dosage? I'd like to try the sublingual route, but find a range of dosages (most often with the intent of blasting off after oral harmalas. I would like to do it by itself), so am not sure where to begin. As of now I'm leaning towards starting with 25mg.

Planning on making my first rue tea this Sunday, as it should be a relatively relaxed day.

How did you make your mimosa tincture (feel free to shoot me a link lmao)?
Thank you

One love
 
Voidmatrix said:
Greetings Friends,

After perusing the Nexus, noticing some individuals use harmalas as a supplement, have decided to try the same and see what it does for me.

Rue:
Planning on making rue tea. My questions are how much to dose and how do I prepare it?

Harmala extract:
I have harmala extracted from yellow caapi. How much freebase harmala do you think is advisable to begin with for oral and vaporized administration.

Apologies if this is somewhere out on the Nexus already. Feel free to shoot me some links.

One love
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how has your exploration on using Harmala as a supplement been?
 
My current trials with no DMT yet just Syrian Rue seeds

Starting taking Syrian Rue seeds - Advice needed

This weekend was going to be the start of me experimenting with taking Syrian Rue seeds but I've got a medical thing happening tomorrow and I'll be injected with a dye during a scan so to be safe I'll steer clear of harmalas this weekend. My plan is to start low with 300mg of seeds in the way...
forum.dmt-nexus.me forum.dmt-nexus.me

The 300mg feels to have the most noticeable effect on an empty stomach first thing, then the later 800mg, the last 1200mg dose of tea did nothing, no ill effects, if I'm blunt, maybe some extra :poop: the day after.
 
Space Djedi said:
how has your exploration on using Harmala as a supplement been?
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It's ongoing, and I suppose has been a regular work in progress for about 4 years.

There's a lot that one could say about the practice, and like many things in this realm of interest, there are going to be elements that are relative and some that are subjective.

As of now, I regularly take about 1g of rue, boiled for 30 minutes with a couple bags of tea in acidic water before bed. I find it brings a night time clarity as well as aids in preparing the environment for sleep and rest.

For meditation practices, with rue and freebase harmalas, I increase the dose substantially, using 3g or more when working with rue and using over 40mg (but never more than 60) when smoking it. High dose harmalas are psychedelic on their own, and a "master" plant in their own right. While it's a subtle and nuanced power that harmalas hold, it is tremendous when approached in the spirit of relationship and exploration.

While experiences can have visual components, I find that this is best as a somatic medicine when standing alone (though I tend to work with it with cannabis).

It's a practice that I will continue with in one form or another for a long time to come. Let me know if you have any further questions.

One love
 
Those of your using daily, what are you gaining from it? What are some side effects?

Considering experimenting with these but trying to learn as much as I can first ..
 
It's a bit of a mysterious medicine in that effects and benefits are subtle until they're not.

With regular use, despite my mental health, i find a greater breadth of overall clarity, it softens rough edges of our being, and effectively helps you ground down.

One love
 
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downwardsfromzero said:
any kind of acid/vinegar/lemon juice to the rue brew just makes it taste infinitely worse so don't bother. If your tap water is ridiculously alkaline it still only takes a drop or two of something acidic to sort that out.
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Being somewhere like 5 years down the line of regular rue micro-to-minidosing, and having somewhat alkaline tap water, if I even bother brewing it's specifically with a pinch of ascorbic acid.

I've been rather a fan of the near-zero effort approach of overnight sublingual/buccal dosing for quite a while now. The ability to have a quick chew of the seeds on waking up makes a nice way to start my day :D Otoh, I can't guarantee that this would be compatible with anyone else's lifestyle.

Flavourwise, I find simply eating the seeds overwhelmingly preferable to brewing them in any way - particularly since I stopped toasting them.

Ftr, my dose is around 450mg of seeds atm.
 
blig-blug said:
Aren't you worried about choking on them during the night? It seems very risky to me, but maybe you have some technique.
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I've not had any difficulties in many hundreds of doses like this, but as ever - YMMV. It's rather like going to sleep with a few toast crumbs stuck in ones teeth, only not as bad for the teeth.

Having some sense of caution regarding choking is, of course, wise enough. My original sublingual doses were rather smaller and I've become quite adept at shuffling the seeds into a comfortable position between my gum and cheek before dozing off. That's where they tend to stay - plus I mostly sleep on my side which also helps the seeds to remain in place.

It should be clear, they're not under my tongue overnight. That wouldn't work from a practical point of view, being far more likely to result in minor choking.
 
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