Harmine HCL nausea free ingestion?

[seaofpeace]

Hello this is my first post on this forum.

I wonder if anybody has experiences with taking just harmine HLC + DMT fumarate and if he or she can tell me what's the best low nausea risk way of orally ingesting the harmine HLC.

Yesterday I had my first DMT experience. I took 210mg of Harmine HLC filled in an gel-capsule with two tiny holes poked into it on an completely empty stomach. After 30 minutes I took the DMT fumarate also in a capsule. I went somewhere nice at first but after about an hour the nausea started to kick in and it became more and more a nightmare. I just gagged non stop not being able to get anything out. That went on for a few hours with pauses where the nausea became weaker and I could enjoy the trip. It was like sleeping awake in a way.

The problem is if I am nauseated I have to lay down and mostly feel like a zombie.

I hope someone can give me some tips on how to prevent nausea. I read that drinking ginger tea beforehand and maybe some light food after taking the H. HCL might work.

What about putting the harmine HLC in orange juice?

This forum helped me a lot, thanks!

 

[concombres]

Have you tried making changa?
I have a very weak stomache & taking spice + harmalas orally regardless of how pure an extract always causes periods of intense nausea followed by periods of deep tripping how you describe.
For me, changa causes zero nausea except on the rare occasion & that is very minor.

It is like the bridge between smoked & oral. You can build up to a deep trance state & slowly slip into breakthrough territory for extended periods of time by smoking another hit or two when you come out.
Very similar to oral imo.

1:1:0.3 herb/dmt/harmalas is a good ratio & depending on the herbs used you can end up with dense, heavy herb or light fluffy herb that weighs the same but produces more smoke.
My preference is the dense stuff. 20mg is just a few small flakes & at that dose hits can be spread out by 5-10minutes & keep building using small dosages broken up into multiple hits.

 

[seaofpeace]

do you also ingest some DMT orally while smoking the changa? does that even work?

I am not sure if I can handle smoking. I think I am too sensible when it comes to inhaling. I rather would take it purely oral and try to keep the nausea to a minimum. That would be amazing. Not much into that purging stuff myself. (I think my first experience was enough of that)

I might try changa some time.

 

[concombres]

do you also ingest some DMT orally while smoking the changa? does that even work?

I am not sure if I can handle smoking. I think I am too sensible when it comes to inhaling. I rather would take it purely oral and try to keep the nausea to a minimum. That would be amazing. Not much into that purging stuff myself. (I think my first experience was enough of that)

I might try changa some time.

You could smoke changa during an oral experience, but it would most likely be far too intense for most.

You can try with different harmalas & ratios on their own orally before incorporating the dmt.
That way you figure out which alkaloid or mix your body agrees with best.
Ideally you'd feel mild effects from the harmalas but have very little nausea.

Once that dose is found, add in spice slowly. 30-50mg as a start. Once you find the sweet spot for the harmalas & the dmt you may be able to dial in a dose that brings you where you want to go without too much nausea.

Keep in mind that you may have to go through a few runs with bad nausea in order to find what works best.

 

[seaofpeace]

Could it be that I need harmine hlc 200mg but rather 100mg or less is totally sufficient?

I always read you have to take at least 200mg harmine for a full breakthrough.

 

[seaofpeace]

I have the feeling that the dose of DMT I took was actually quite good and I could go higher. It's just the nausea caused by the MAO-I that is annoying .