Has anybody heard of AL-LAD? its an LSD-RC

[Ufostrahlen]

I am.

But my plan is to go with 100mg. To be sure that I don't get stuck "inbetween" (Does one get what I mean, when I say "inbetween"?)

I understand. Personally, I like to stay low with new substances, even if I get stuck in between. I could call my yesterday trip "in between". Nothing spectacular. But that was okay and even desired, because I wasn't in the mood for spectacular meltdowns. I mean, how many people on earth have tried Al-LAD? ~ 10,000? 50,000? I don't try to push the limits.

I'm pretty excited about giving this a try. But I'm not really worriing or something, cause I somehow think, if can handle DMT I should be able to be confartable with this too. May be proven wrong tough. But again...I'm not really worried. Everything I read sounded pretty good.

Nah, no worries with 100µg. After 4 or 5h your consciousness adjusts to your new perception and you probably can go out to shop or something. You're still switched on for another 5h, but yeah...

edit: mg <-> µg

 

[steppa]

I could call my yesterday trip "in between". Nothing spectacular. But that was okay and even desired, because I wasn't in the mood for spectacular meltdowns.

I see. I want it to be _a bit_ spectacular. *g*

I mean, how many people on earth have tried Al-LAD? ~ 10,000? 50,000? I don't try to push the limits.

Which is probably wise.

edit: mg <-> µg

!!!

 

[Coja]

There doesn't seem to be any concerning feel to this substance at regular doses though, unlike DOx and 25x-NBOMe compounds where the vasoconstriction is notable at rather low doses. I'd wager this one is a real gem across the board.

 

[d*l*b]

I think it seems like a great tool, even larger doses don’t feel uncomfortable to me. The only quibble I have with it is length of the journey, I wish it was slightly longer. I seems to be 1/2–2/3 the time of LSD to me. As many don’t like the duration of acid I guess this would be a plus point for them. I usually use such things when I am out dancing so I would rather have a long journey so I leave in the morning with something still working.

I have some LSZ now too, has anyone here tried that yet?

 

[Coja]

Yes, the LSZ is somewhat similar, though a bit less comfortable. Though al-lad was very comfortable and easy compared with lsd though in limited analysis. It might be fair to say that lsz produced a more lsd like head-space than al-lad, but I've only limited experience with it and at lower doses (150 ug.). Combining a longer lasting phenethylamine, at a low end dose, might be a beneficial/synergistic means of extending and ramping up an al-lad experience.

 

[d*l*b]

Thanks for the info, I will be testing tonight. I will report back on my thoughts and experience.

 

[Purges]

I could call my yesterday trip "in between". Nothing spectacular. But that was okay and even desired, because I wasn't in the mood for spectacular meltdowns.

I see. I want it to be _a bit_ spectacular. *g*

I mean, how many people on earth have tried Al-LAD? ~ 10,000? 50,000? I don't try to push the limits.

Which is probably wise.

edit: mg <-> µg

!!!

I am happy I took d*l*bs advice and went for 300u. Started off on 150u, but consumed 2 more 75u doses over the course of the come up. I think 300u would be comfortable and _a bit_ spectacular for most who are experienced with LSD and the like. Obviously use your discretion, but I can see 150u being a bit underwhelming for most. Heck, Mrs.P is tiny and handled 225u no problems. I don't think it is on par with lsd in potency.

 

[d*l*b]

So, I tested LSZ. Only a preliminary test and certainly not the cleanest one, I had drunk 2.5 pints of beer a couple of hours prior.

Had an initial 150µg, then followed up with another 150µg 1.5 hours after. LSZ felt less comfortable physically and was less visual than AL-LAD. Seeemed to have a longer duration than AL-LAD, with small visual effects noticeable 6–8 hours after dosing. Will have to test again in the coming months without any extras that may have influenced things to make a good appraisal, but my initial feeling is that I don’t like it as much as AL-LAD.

 

[Ufostrahlen]

So for the record (or my logical brain hemisphere):

112µg (3/4 of a blot) are fun in a weird way and no painful lessons were learned. I'm not sure if I understood or retained the whole lesson AL-LAD gave me yesterday, but it was ego related and how sneaky it manifests. Probably right in this moment. I'll write the post anyway, let's hope someone finds it useful. No visuals with this dose, except a shifted visual field (no melting walls). In contrast to the very present head space.

Additional thoughts on how to max out the trip (imo):

* do it in the evening/night, light distracts the inward experience
* this is an inwards trip, outside circumstances don't matter - what i mean with that: no need for fancy woods, beaches or outside acitivites. A safe, clean & quite place is good, but the visual quality doesn't really matter.
* 150µg is an okay dose; I started low, because AL-LAD is my first lysergic substance, acid heads might better listen to Purges.

 

[joedirt]

This is a fascinating thread!

AL-LAD is a compound that I have wanted to try for quite sometime. I actually heard of this compound before DMT. From what I understand it has all the desirable qualities of really good LSD with a slightly shorter duration. I do love LSD, but man on higher doses > 300mg I am "on" for 12-16 hours. If I cross 500mg I'm awake for 24 hours... that is just unreasonable on a regular basis...

I will be really curious to see trip times for people that take heroic doses of this compound.

 

[d*l*b]

I found 450µg AL-LAD I was feeling quite normal 7 hours after dosing, visuals pretty much gone. I had a hard time getting to sleep properly for a good while, it was about 18 hours after dosing that I managed to sleep properly (I had a brief half hour doze on the way home, but that was not really proper sleep).

 

[3rdI]

I will be really curious to see trip times for people that take heroic doses of this compound.

cant remember if it has timings but this is a 2.2mg dose which is pretty "heroic"

does anybody have any knowledge in regards to using harmalas with AL-LAD?

 

[Purges]

2.2mg!!! :shock:

does anybody have any knowledge in regards to using harmalas with AL-LAD?

Was going to ask the same myself actually. Going to dose some al-lad tomorrow and was wondering whether to smoalk some freebase or Changa towards the end. Would like to know for sure that it's safe before taking the plunge...

 

[d*l*b]

I can’t even begin to imagine how mindblowing 2.2mg must be. I found 450mg to be very deep indeed, that was alright in an environment that was reasonably initimate [a club, reliably nice crowd, small attendance]. I wouldn’t like to be in a place like a festival at 450mg though, let alone over 4 times that dose.

Always measure your doses properly, shortcuts with ultra-potent psychedelics are a fool’s game!

 

[Purges]

Sampled 450u last weekend and all I can say is WOW! Not sure I would want that dose in a club environment. Markedly more powerful than 300u. The dissociative aspect of this substance was very pronounced, it sort of gently drags you under into the realm of visions and spits you back out again. Came to in some weird and uncomfortable positions.

Almost like a combination of ketamine and lsd, but somehow cleaner and deeper. The visual element was absolutely jaw dropping, immersive and at points utterly overwhelming. Some very weird thought process going on, bordering on delusional. There would be hundreds of things going on and then it would all blur together into a white out.

It was very difficult to interact with the 'real world' during the peak. Speaking or at least communicating effectively was also a very laborious process. Did get a bit of a head ache towards the end, but did drink a bit of rum before dropping, so that could be a factor.

Didn't find it increased duration. Ate at 5ish and was down by midnight. Sleep by 2 am.

Would I do this dose again? Hell yes! Any higher and I think a sober sitter would be a must.

Have been in a very positive mood all week, thoughts have been clear and uncluttered. Stagnation that has been an issue has been replaced with motivation and proactive mindset. :thumb_up:

 

[3rdI]

sounds good Purges, did you eat the dose in a single go?

 

[Purges]

Had 300u to start then another 150u as the first dose started kicking in 1-1.5hrs later. I did plan on all at once but got cold feet until the warm fuzzy electricity started enveloping me and I decided to go for it. I imagine all at once is the way to go though, I'm stI'll feeling it out.

 

[3rdI]

I imagine all at once is the way to go though, I'm stI'll feeling it out.

i imagine this as well, cant wait til next friday

 

[Purges]

I'm sure you will find it a most satisfactory experience 8)

As a side note I have heard from a couple of friends that 150-225u was rather underwhelming, so knowing what you're like 300u+ is probably the way to go. Mrs.P did find 300u caught her off guard with its strength, whereas that was a good starting point for me.

 

[d*l*b]

Your experience sounds reasonably similar to mine Purges, except the interaction part and ability to sleep.

While interactions were by no means normal at the peak I felt quite contented being part of a crowd and interacting the very few times I needed to (I don’t view partying as a very sociable experience a lot of the time. I tend to party alone these days, try and be the first on the dancefloor and last off =D).

I would happily do it in a murky industrial basement again, or maybe at an outdoor free party. I would be quite careful where I choose though. The venue for my 450µg experience is reliably sound, I have been to other places with it and not yet pushed past 300µg as I haven’t felt comfortable enough to push the boat out.