• Members of the previous forum can retrieve their temporary password here, (login and check your PM).

Has anybody heard of AL-LAD? its an LSD-RC

Migrated topic.
it could well have been the combo, i certainly wouldnt rule that out.

I would have been interested in exploring it more in the future if i hadnt had to deal with the fall out of the evening. I am now just a bit worried about the what if's, which has never happened to me before with any substance or combo. It could have gone really sour if the delusions had been of a sinister nature, all i could think the next day was what if friend 1 had thought something along the lines of me and friend2 had killed his family or something equally as nasty.

im not gonna say that LAD is the cause, as that would be silly, but both me a friend 1 have never had anything like that happen before and we have done our fair share of combo's, friend 1 also has plenty of experience with K plus other substances, including K+acid and he said nothing has come close to that evening. Friend 1 did however say he was rediculously high and the visuals were awesome, there was a point where he said that listening to Gypsy Women by Tim Buckley was the greatest musical experience of his life. if you havent heard it i suggest you have a listen, its epically good.

again i would say be careful folks, proceed but with caution and i definitely advise a sitter when approaching higher doses/combos.
 
Agreed on the caution, and thanks for the recommendation, am in need of some good new music at the moment :thumb_up: Maybe a time will come when you feel the urge to explore it again. Maybe not, that's the benefit of having many different plants and compounds to choose from, it's bound to be the case that some will interact with your synapses in a more pleasing and rewarding way than others. Did your friend experience any lasting negative effects at all?
 
300ug down the hatch... i was going to jump from 150ug to 450ug but read a few reports recently saying that there was little difference between 2 or 3 tabs and i don't want to be wasteful. 15 minutes in and i'm feeling it already, my gut must have a brain to be coming on this fast!

Looking forward to this :)
 
Bad news in UK:


Looks like Her Majesty (........) is pleased with the banning of another substance. I think 28 days from the date of this statement, which will be the 7th of January 2015 if I'm not mistaken.

So get ready for a probably unknown crappier and more dangerous replacement in the future which may or may not cause deaths. Hurray.
 
It's a ridiculous situation we find ourselves in. I have read the new legislation and it says they are banning it because even though no problems have arisen, they might and that is grounds for a ban.

Chronic said:
300ug down the hatch... was going to jump to 450ug but read a few reports recently saying that there was little difference between 2 or 3 tabs and i don't want to be wasteful, although i do suspect tolerance was at play for those reporters, speaking of tolerance i test ran 150ug 6 days ago so hopefully my tolerance is low, 15 minutes in and i'm feeling it already so i guess so... my gut must have a brain to be coming on this fast :?:

Looking forward to this :d

I found a massive difference between 2 and 3 tabs. 450u was far more immersive and visually stunning. 300u is still a good dose though. Bon voyage brave explorer 8)
 
Orion said:
Looks like Her Majesty (........) is pleased with the banning of another substance. I think 28 days from the date of this statement, which will be the 7th of January 2015 if I'm not mistaken.

So get ready for a probably unknown crappier and more dangerous replacement in the future which may or may not cause deaths. Hurray.

Ban 3 and 5 will occur.

DAL, LSB, LSP, BU-LAD and several others are certainly in the pipeline.
 
I tried 300ug of this last night and it was one of the most tremendous psychedelic experiences of my life, i have plenty of previous experience with psilocybe mushrooms, vaped DMT, and have tried LSD twice before, once at a moderate dose, another time much higher dose, unknown how many micrograms exactly. I previously tried 150ug of AL-LAD a week ago and found it to be pleasant, it had a very slow onset which built & built upon itself which i liked a lot, but overall i couldn't help but feel that perhaps it was lacking a bit of depth, at least when compared to a similar dose of psilocybin.

Leading up to this trip i fasted until dosing mid afternoon, at half an hour in it was already feeling very deep and genuine, i saw the usual OEV breathing effects on text and became aware of the underlying geometry behind this visual effect, it was flowing in, out, all around, back in, a force of encompassment, i became aware of how this same principle integrates all the things we become aware of in our lifetime, impressions, memory etc... a nice insight into the most common visual i have on psychedelics.

Creeping up to an hour it was so profound, i felt like the substance somehow knew i had been having my doubts about it being deep enough and it was resolving those doubts. Past the hour mark it was showing me deep places within myself that other psychedelics have revealed, my hands were folded prayer style, deep gratitude, but i still wanted to see what sets this substance apart...

Over 2 hours in i became aware of how deeply therapeutic this substance can be, so loving, with the looming ban feeling like such a shame. I was thinking about the belief that LSD was the antidote for the A-Bomb, and how relevant this particular version of that substance could be to todays societal issues.

At 3 hours in i decided to vaporize some cannabis and on reflection this wasn't a great idea on the peak of 300mcg. The combination of having fasted, with 2 blotters in my stomach, mixing in cannabis it took me right to the peak of what i feel this substance can do for me, music became orgasmic, inner visions were fully immersive, strands of DNA and unidentifiable prima materia exploding all over my visual field, 150ug was mostly mental, this was much more full on.

With eyes closed but very aware of my bodies position sitting upright in a chair i saw my flesh disintegrate in moments leaving bones which just as swiftly crumbled to dust leaving in their wake visions of cosmic proportions, oblong shaped galactic discs whose centre was a white hole that took up 90% of the discs diameter. On the fringes of these ‘white holes’ was a surrounding band of purple light with specs of light embedded within it, as I looked closer i came to see that the specs of light were web like superclusters of galaxies. As soon as I opened my eyes I was back to the room, but if I closed my eyes I was in that same contemplation again watching a vision of my body disintegrate.

Shortly after this i suddenly experienced a surge of mental purging for a few seconds and felt 'this is the cleansing side of it', those concepts didn't actually form but that was the assured feeling i had, it actually felt interesting as up til then it was all extreme euphoria and this was different. When i next closed my eyes the CEV's started to go a bit haywire, very chaotic with no flow to them, i started to have some 'RC' doubts and before i knew it was one of the most testing and eye opening experiences i've had with any substance, teaching me about the power of fear. The way the trip unfolded it was like it was showing me the latent potential for love within humanity and then showed me what holds us back from realizing that potential, fear. I found it amazing how quickly things escalated, but also how quickly they subsides when i stopped feeding it. I feel fairly confident about trying AL-LAD again, i just wouldn't go near cannabis as i feel this eventually influenced things for the worse.

Please take previous reports including my own that put forward the notion that this is potentially a 'recreational psychedelic' with a pinch of salt, it is a seriously potent entheogen just like LSD.
 
Hey Chronic!

That was a great read! Thanks for that dude. Man it's a shame this drug is being scheduled soon... seems like it has a LOT of potential. I am getting on the case immediately.
 
Very nicely articulated experience! Resonates with my own explorations. What you said about losing trust, belief etc is interesting. At one point during one of my explorations I was asked "would you want it all (existence) to end?" - it felt like I was being given access to the switch that would end all the pain, suffering, joy and ecstacy of this plane. I said 'no way!' - it's difficult to explain, but it seems you experienced it from a different perspective.
 
Nice report Chronic.

I have not really been in places where I can really sit back and consider much, hopefully I can make a report at some time when I work in a more settled environment.

As to environment, I think AL-LAD is an astoundingly good dancefloor tool (I have not tried much away from the dancefloor to be honest). I have alway loved LSD when dancing but it does suffer some issues with confusion, paranoia, loops and the like. AL-LAD has confusion, odd thoughts and loops like LSD, they just don’t seem to be so much of an issue for me, even on high doses.

It will be a shame that it will be scheduled soon, luckily I have managed to stock myself up! I hear there are a few more interesting psychedelics due to appear, we will see what they have in store for us, I am very impressed with AL-LAD, hopefully we will have something on par with that coming to us, rather than something like LSZ which I didn’t think much of.
 
DoingKermit said:
Hey Chronic!

That was a great read! Thanks for that dude. Man it's a shame this drug is being scheduled soon... seems like it has a LOT of potential. I am getting on the case immediately.

Hey man glad you appreciated the report, good to see you again :)

Purges said:
Very nicely articulated experience! Resonates with my own explorations. What you said about losing trust, belief etc is interesting. At one point during one of my explorations I was asked "would you want it all (existence) to end?" - it felt like I was being given access to the switch that would end all the pain, suffering, joy and ecstacy of this plane. I said 'no way!' - it's difficult to explain, but it seems you experienced it from a different perspective.

Thanks, i kept a detailed trip log and typed up the report this morning so it was fresh in my mind, there's definitely an afterglow and integration process with this going on, i slept well for 7 hours awoke refreshed and could recall lots of the trip right away. I feel so reflective today i can't stop thinking about what i've learned, little things are revealing more insights, while sitting in traffic earlier i saw a bird flying and catching the currents of the wind in its wings to lift itself higher and higher and it was just incredible.

d*l*b said:
Nice report Chronic.

I have not really been in places where I can really sit back and consider much, hopefully I can make a report at some time when I work in a more settled environment.

As to environment, I think AL-LAD is an astoundingly good dancefloor tool (I have not tried much away from the dancefloor to be honest). I have alway loved LSD when dancing but it does suffer some issues with confusion, paranoia, loops and the like. AL-LAD has confusion, odd thoughts and loops like LSD, they just don’t seem to be so much of an issue for me, even on high doses.

It will be a shame that it will be scheduled soon, luckily I have managed to stock myself up! I hear there are a few more interesting psychedelics due to appear, we will see what they have in store for us, I am very impressed with AL-LAD, hopefully we will have something on par with that coming to us, rather than something like LSZ which I didn’t think much of.

I don't really follow the RC scene that much but will try to keep an eye out for any new lysergamides.

I thought about you using it for dancing at 450ug with no issues and it made me see how lot of this trip came down to focus and intent, i went into it saying to the substance 'show me what you got' and it did just that, i went deep into my mind, had i been focused on dancing or another activity it probably wouldn't have become so mentally intense, and the cannabis didn't help that either!
 
Any word on if the DEA is looking at AL-LAD, or any of lysergamine RCs? With the public opinion slowly turning on the drug war, I'm wondering if they might reign in their compulsion to schedule anything even remotely mind-altering (the length of time Salvia Divinorum has remained unscheduled gives me hope).

Blessings
~ND
 
I believe it's already illegal in the US under the 'analog act' which sounds like it would include many more potential lysergamide analogs.

The reason Salvia is still legal in my opinion is because people don't buy it that much so it attracts little attention.
 
Chronic said:
I believe it's already illegal in the US under the 'analog act' which sounds like it would include many more potential lysergamide analogs

Yeah, if they can show that it's for human consumption. Considering that the lysergamides are generally distributed on blotter, it would be hard to prove otherwise. However, with the powder one would be in a grey area a shade lighter as with the psilocin/DMT/mescaline analogs.

The reason Salvia is still legal IMO is because people don't buy it that much

I keep forgetting it's legal since my state banned it. :(
The DEA claim Salvinorin A could be considered a THC analog, but it technically fails because it's effects don't resemble those of THC. They're always looking for ways to make the net larger.
 
Chronic said:
I thought about you using it for dancing at 450ug with no issues and it made me see how lot of this trip came down to focus an intent, i went into it saying to the substance 'show me what you got' and it did just that, had i been focused on dancing or another activity it probably wouldn't have gone so insane, infact i found that as soon as i caught myself slipping into that hellish mindstate within as little as a minute later i would be fine doing something else and have forgotten about it with a big smile, but something in me said - no, i want to face this fear if it's still in me
I find I end up in a deep trance reasonably quickly when dancing to the right music in the right place, with no additional chemical help. That can get pretty weird on its own at times. One thing that I find about that state is that the concentration and relaxation aspect gives you kind of a bubble to work in, something outside to control things and momentum to keep you in there. That, for me, tends to mean that adverse mental reactions to things are pretty rare.

Last time I played at 450µg there was one point where I snapped out of the trance and realised quite how far out I was and that I was alone in a group of people I barely knew. I was relaxed enough at this point to have a really nice epiphany. Despite the fact I was in what could be an inadvisable state to be in when alone in a strange city – I felt completely safe and free. Not a worry in the world. I have been surfing on that one for a few weeks now!
 
:) very nice, i've seen how dancing is amazing on AL-LAD, on this last trip it was incredible, when i closed my eyes and really got into feeling the music with my body it made me snap back to the room and exclaim an orgamisc 'OH MY GOD!' as the feeling was so powerful!

I'm really looking forward to trying 450mcg myself, if it's anything like going from 150-300mcg :shock:
 
Looks like Santa Claus dropped by my house for a late visit on New Year's Day... 😁
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20141231_222228402_HDR%7E2.jpg
    IMG_20141231_222228402_HDR%7E2.jpg
    1.3 MB · Views: 0
  • IMG_20141231_222213347%7E2.jpg
    IMG_20141231_222213347%7E2.jpg
    1.8 MB · Views: 0
Damn son! Plenty of researching to be had there!

Some observations from last night. I drank a small amount of mushroom tea shortly after the first alerts of the AL-LAD started sinking in. Dosed the LAD maybe 7pm. We chucked a load of Changa in my Herborizer and I took a few hits probably about midnight. Fantastic entity contact, beautiful.

I think the Harmalas turned this from fun + a bit of magic into me still being up at 11:25am. I went through hell. A place more disgusting and repuganant than I care to give much more thought. I had a cathartic upheaval watching the sun rise this morning. There has been synchronicity after synchonicity showing me how to help myself and my emotions have been exploding uncontrollably.

I awoke to something very deep last night. It's going to take a while to digest. I wouldn't change any of it but I am left staggered at the sheer force and brutality of the experience before my illumination.

Today I give thanks, I have a new start.

Happy New Year.
 
Purges said:
I awoke to something very deep last night. It's going to take a while to digest. I wouldn't change any of it but I am left staggered at the sheer force and brutality of the experience before my illumination.

Sounds intense. Ego death? Aliens? Buddha speaking to you?

Ban 3 and 5 will occur.
DAL, LSB, LSP, BU-LAD and several others are certainly in the pipeline.
Almost right, 1P-LSD and 1P-LSZ are the new concoctions.
 
Back
Top Bottom