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Hearing the call of the DMT Dimension...

So how often do you indulge
Lately every six months to a year for dmt.... I've been contemplating going in more lately. Funny thing is I keep getting this reoccurring thought once I'm in the space that downplays the experience. Like I'm making this big fuss and I revere the experience so much it's like okay now what, your here, so?!
 
There is a distinct high pitched frequency, a bit like the sound of tinnitus but louder and audible in the ear that accompanies the entry into the DMT space.
I have heard it described before as a "carrier wave" sound in some reports which I think is describing the same thing.

So here's the thing, this last several months this "carrier wave frequency sound" has been occurring to me outside of tripping at various times. Its a distinct sound that I only ever hear on DMT and associate with that higher dimension of consciousness that DMT accesses. However it will occur for only for maybe 10-20 seconds outside of tripping. It could be at certain time of the morning or at night, but I feel the DMT Dimension is summoning me to it...like a call saying "now would be a good time to partake". Interpreted differently maybe even "now is the time you should be partaking".

I had some doubts initially on if it was really the DMT dimension 'calling', but this was removed recently. I hadn't used for about 2 months and also didnt have any Haramala tea which I usually keep in the fridge (I always smoke after drinking Harmala tea).

I decided to prep some tea to keep, with the idea that I would smoke perhaps later in the week or month...however a few hours after preparing it the same carrier wave sound occurred loudly for about 10 seconds, as if to say "partake now would be good"...so I did. I hadnt heard the sound for the last several weeks so it seemed very synchronous.

So the Harmala DMT Dimension is speaking and "summoning" me through this sound frequency that seems to be indicating and regulating when I should be optimallly doing it. It depends how far I want to take it but it has occurred at 3am when I am in bed but I have declined at that time. However I am more inclinced to wait now for an "invitation" before I partake rather than just going by my whims and feelings.

Does anyone else get this or have had similar experiences?


I made some changa and was trying it out (small amount just to get the feeling on dosage) and on my 2nd or 3rd time smoking it (small amount so only brighter colours and some 'ringing' in the ears) and I felt/heard this calling from whatever we meet when we go deeper. I randomly saw this post and read it and tears started to fall (not crying just a couple tears). I don't know why but my guess is I found someone who had a similar experience. Made an account just because of this post and I will be browsing this forum a lot more now.
 
Lately every six months to a year for dmt.... I've been contemplating going in more lately. Funny thing is I keep getting this reoccurring thought once I'm in the space that downplays the experience. Like I'm making this big fuss and I revere the experience so much it's like okay now what, your here, so?!
Kinda similar for me...haven't broken through yet but after 5 minutes I start thinking how can I explain this to ppl. It turns darker more dull as if the space wants me go be fully present.
 
"This attitude simply won't cut it for DMT if you want to really go deeper. So yes, if you keep an open mind while maintaining an attitude of skeptical enquiry, the many attributes of the space can open up and you will notice them more because you aren't automatically closing them off as possibilities in the first place. Even this whole area of discussion is probably considered to be pretty far out by some standards but here we are and thats fine."

Panpsychic can you dummy that down for me to understand

I can try to clarify what I mean.

There are lots of parameters of what we take to be 'reality' simply because they match our day to day experience in ordinary baseline consciousness, or more often they match the prevailing model we have been taught or which usually applies for how reality 'works'. We then bring these parameters and apply them to interpreting what we expect to see on DMT and how we interpret and understand what we experience.

By parameters and assumptions I'm talking about like "the arrow of time always flows forward". Common sense it seems yet sometimes people have precognition and visions of the future on psychedelics (or during dreams) and then they come true (an unconditioned future vision) or they had the possibility of coming true but maybe did not (a conditional future vision). Or another might be "entity contact is just in the mind, so it cant give me real world knowledge about the actual laws of reality".

As Chris Bache (author of 'LSD and the Mind of the Universe') puts it "Different states of consciousness, different rules apply".

These assummed normal parameters are actually limitations in ones beliefs or assumptions that are distorting the direct experience of what the DMT may be showing you, in order to filter it into a familiar perspective and belief system you may hold ("seeing into the future isnt possible, so that cant be what I saw and even if it came true, it must have been a cooincidence or I misremembered").

So in the case of this discussion we are exploring the DMT Dimension is communicating with us and in a kind of reciprocal relationship both during and outside of tripping, and that we seem to be being given directions and challanges for personal development, that when met will unfold ever deeper layers of the experience and that relationship.

I have no doubt the phenomena has occurred for many over the years, but without a prevailing map that could even consider the possibility, the "DMT carrier wave" frequency may have been just ignored or dismissed as an unwanted or unimportant phenomena, rather than as a pathway by which the DMT is communcating with oneself.

Once this possibility is considered, more connections become apparent and the interactive nature of it becomes clearer, and others may be more likely to acknowledge and notice it since it now becomes more of an accepted part of the terrain of possibility with DMT.

I don’t kmow if that made things clearer but thats how I would put it.
 
I can try to clarify what I mean.

There are lots of parameters of what we take to be 'reality' simply because they match our day to day experience in ordinary baseline consciousness, or more often they match the prevailing model we have been taught or which usually applies for how reality 'works'. We then bring these parameters and apply them to interpreting what we expect to see on DMT and how we interpret and understand what we experience.

By parameters and assumptions I'm talking about like "the arrow of time always flows forward". Common sense it seems yet sometimes people have precognition and visions of the future on psychedelics (or during dreams) and then they come true (an unconditioned future vision) or they had the possibility of coming true but maybe did not (a conditional future vision). Or another might be "entity contact is just in the mind, so it cant give me real world knowledge about the actual laws of reality".

As Chris Bache (author of 'LSD and the Mind of the Universe') puts it "Different states of consciousness, different rules apply".

These assummed normal parameters are actually limitations in ones beliefs or assumptions that are distorting the direct experience of what the DMT may be showing you, in order to filter it into a familiar perspective and belief system you may hold ("seeing into the future isnt possible, so that cant be what I saw and even if it came true, it must have been a cooincidence or I misremembered").

So in the case of this discussion we are exploring the DMT Dimension is communicating with us and in a kind of reciprocal relationship both during and outside of tripping, and that we seem to be being given directions and challanges for personal development, that when met will unfold ever deeper layers of the experience and that relationship.

I have no doubt the phenomena has occurred for many over the years, but without a prevailing map that could even consider the possibility, the "DMT carrier wave" frequency may have been just ignored or dismissed as an unwanted or unimportant phenomena, rather than as a pathway by which the DMT is communcating with oneself.

Once this possibility is considered, more connections become apparent and the interactive nature of it becomes clearer, and others may be more likely to acknowledge and notice it since it now becomes more of an accepted part of the terrain of possibility with DMT.

I don’t kmow if that made things clearer but thats how I would put it.
Made it very clear and it makes so much sense. Idk if this makes sense but most ppl look at ppl with mental disabilities as a negative. I know it can be a struggle for parents trying to raise them but that's not my point. My point is since they may not have all the tools in their brain then they don't stress over normal things society has ingrained in us. I'm just trying to correlate that to what you said. So if we spent so many years creating this world model and so assure of this current reality. How do we train our brains to have an open slate? I'm a very open minded person but it took me many years of self reflection. Plus I'm a natural born super empath...so I naturally always look at others perspective.
 
Certain conditions can reflect processing differences that aren't necessarily worse but just different. For example Aspergers syndrome has been correlated with some social deficits but often higher IQ and mathematical ability. Similarly some schizotypal traits in people have been associted with increased creativity and artistic capabilities.

In terms of how to broaden horizens - trusting the experience while maintaining a questioning attitude. We can't just negate out prevailing assumptions nor should we since many of them are broadly accurate and serve us well in day to day life. Its where they become a limiting belief especially with regards to non-ordinary experiences that they can be a problem.
Reading good trip reports and accounts of natural mystics can open one to the types of experience that may be possible and what to look out for. Then not adhering to dogmatism in scientific discourse but recognizing there is no consensus on a lot of the key issues such as 'what is the fundamental nature of reallty', and plenty of viewpoints that are compatible with psychedelic experiences.

We can then maintain a broadly coherent framework that allows to explore deeper while still maintaining a questioning attitude, and the experience will tend to validate itself over time if we are on the right track.
 
Continuing this interactive relationship with the DMT Dimension or "God".
I received the call again but didn't partake right away...the anxiety and apprehensiveness about doing DMT still means I don't always go ahead with it. A few days later I had a high dose LSD session; visions of the higher planes and that our life here is a precursor to that life and a preparation.

Anyway I had taken in the morning and by the late evening I was basking in the afterglow and felt ok about taking some DMT. Drank my Harmala tea with a soft drink and waited an hour until about midnight.

Then it was time to partake. Amazing as always. I really can see the benefits of having a coherent metaphysical framework to navigate these experiences as your map is then so much broader rather than just limiting to this one life which is just a snapshot of the larger whole that is 'you' and the continuity of being.

As I recognized the vision of this future reality and the different planes of being an immense smile started to form on my face, a smile and such happiness I have never felt before. As I looked up and into the vision or dimension I could actually feel my facial muscles being pulled upwards into a huge smile that I have been unable to make before or since. "Its making me smile" I said. I am talking about an actual physical force acting on the facial muscles like a puppet having strings pulled upwards is what it felt like. The smile was involuntary and extended, it felt a bit like in the joker movie but it was solely positive. An ecstatic smile that isn't possible for me to form in baseline consciousness or even while tripping without this external force pulling it thus. "You don't smile enough" it seemed to be saying.

I recognized what is said in the ancient texts about the deva planes being filled with "exclusively pleasant sense contacts and experience". We cant fathom the life of bliss that awaits us if we live an ethical life according to truth and virtue. I was being shown a glimpse of these realities and the psychosomatic system needed to be reconfigured to be able to experience and express such levels of happiness. The forces acting externally on the facial muscles lasted the duration of the second part of the trip after I took a second toke, so about 10-15 minutes.

"Thank you, thank you" I said looking up to God for giving me this gift.

This is not something I have ever experienced before on any psychedelic and I am in awe of the experience still.
 
I'm trying to figure out the fear. Out of 10 dmt experiences how many would you say were challenging? And after each positive experience do you question why wad I nervous?
 
I'm trying to figure out the fear. Out of 10 dmt experiences how many would you say were challenging? And after each positive experience do you question why was I nervous?

There's been quite a lot said about overcoming anxiety on here, you can search about various ways at handling it. For me the experiences are pretty much always positive. The anxiety is more to do with the exitential gravity of the experiences and insights. One thing that can make it a bit easier is having music in the background whereas previously I was always doing it in silence where it can be more apprehensive just facing what is coming.

Even for this experience as amazing as it was it's not something I would rush into again. Partly because I am generally waiting to receive 'the call' now before I do it but also just being shown a view of the larger canvas, the translucency of different states of being that are being accessed and the vastness of time and the sheer beauty of what is seen all contributes to a sense of awe and reverence which can also be associated with anxiety and trepidation. Its akin to peering over the edge of a large canyon to see the beyond and that just isnt easy or something that I am able to do in a fully relaxed way.
 
I've been hearing the call fairly consistently these last couple of months. My trepidation in diving in has been that i felt I haven't done enough work out here to be "worthy" of such fantastical experiences. The 'unwavering otherness' of these experiences can be so blissful. Some of the fear comes from a place of shame to feel that good. It's a fear of losing myself. Letting people down. Not being able to properly share the revelations of these experiences. Fear of falling into traps.

I was telling a friend that I've been hearing the phone ring for a while, but I can't decide if it's supposed to be a wakeup call, or a invitation to the block party I've surely missed by now.

The call is a curious thing. Sometimes it isn't all that deep, it just likes to say hi to those in their path. I like to imagine watching ants greeting one another on a trail. Those little 'handshakes.'

Seems to be all about finding these puzzling answers for yourself. There's magic in the little details.
So here's the thing, this last several months this "carrier wave frequency sound" has been occurring to me outside of tripping at various times. Its a distinct sound that I only ever hear on DMT
This sound has been far more friendly to me lately. It's a different feeling/sound to me than tinnitus. It feels more... intentional? It's typically synchronous with something I'm doing in waking life. Sparked by something I've pondered on in the space or simply remembering trips/thinking about taking one. Especially strange when I decide "it's time." it's like my body knows what I'm thinking and I react accordingly. Limbs start to get cold in preparation of the shock to the limbic system, telling me to prepare for the weather :p

I can't figure out why I do that to myself..whenever I break a priority that could've taken me 30 mins to complete...i ruminate over it for hours later. Doesn't make sense...maybe subconscious self destruction. Idk
Funny how we do that right? Our disappointment in ourselves feels so much worse sometimes than others expressing their disappointment in us. A call to arms to be better is the core of it i think. It becomes really dependant on your frame of mind. If you're tormenting yourself, these small falterings can become the catalyst for true self destruction. Tough to give yourself the grace to allow yourself to be fallible.

"Thank you, thank you" I said looking up to God for giving me this gift.
Many of my trips have ended in sobbing apologetics for "not getting it" sooner. Praise to the otherness for letting me see it how it is. Apologies to those I've let down in my travels. Such a powerful tool for change spice is. Sometimes the adoration and thank yous come from gratitude because I haven't been taken for a ride. Not having been fed a delusion to devour wholesale. I'm sure many here know the kind of "trap" I mean.
 
I've been hearing the call fairly consistently these last couple of months. My trepidation in diving in has been that i felt I haven't done enough work out here to be "worthy" of such fantastical experiences. The 'unwavering otherness' of these experiences can be so blissful. Some of the fear comes from a place of shame to feel that good. It's a fear of losing myself. Letting people down. Not being able to properly share the revelations of these experiences. Fear of falling into traps.

I was telling a friend that I've been hearing the phone ring for a while, but I can't decide if it's supposed to be a wakeup call, or a invitation to the block party I've surely missed by now.

The call is a curious thing. Sometimes it isn't all that deep, it just likes to say hi to those in their path. I like to imagine watching ants greeting one another on a trail. Those little 'handshakes.'

Seems to be all about finding these puzzling answers for yourself. There's magic in the little details.

This sound has been far more friendly to me lately. It's a different feeling/sound to me than tinnitus. It feels more... intentional? It's typically synchronous with something I'm doing in waking life. Sparked by something I've pondered on in the space or simply remembering trips/thinking about taking one. Especially strange when I decide "it's time." it's like my body knows what I'm thinking and I react accordingly. Limbs start to get cold in preparation of the shock to the limbic system, telling me to prepare for the weather :p


Funny how we do that right? Our disappointment in ourselves feels so much worse sometimes than others expressing their disappointment in us. A call to arms to be better is the core of it i think. It becomes really dependant on your frame of mind. If you're tormenting yourself, these small falterings can become the catalyst for true self destruction. Tough to give yourself the grace to allow yourself to be fallible.


Many of my trips have ended in sobbing apologetics for "not getting it" sooner. Praise to the otherness for letting me see it how it is. Apologies to those I've let down in my travels. Such a powerful tool for change spice is. Sometimes the adoration and thank yous come from gratitude because I haven't been taken for a ride. Not having been fed a delusion to devour wholesale. I'm sure many here know the kind of "trap" I mean.
Thought it was only me....feeling extremely guilty for not being my authentic self...when I thought I was being fully authentic
 
There's been quite a lot said about overcoming anxiety on here, you can search about various ways at handling it. For me the experiences are pretty much always positive. The anxiety is more to do with the exitential gravity of the experiences and insights. One thing that can make it a bit easier is having music in the background whereas previously I was always doing it in silence where it can be more apprehensive just facing what is coming.

Even for this experience as amazing as it was it's not something I would rush into again. Partly because I am generally waiting to receive 'the call' now before I do it but also just being shown a view of the larger canvas, the translucency of different states of being that are being accessed and the vastness of time and the sheer beauty of what is seen all contributes to a sense of awe and reverence which can also be associated with anxiety and trepidation. Its akin to peering over the edge of a large canyon to see the beyond and that just isnt easy or something that I am able to do in a fully relaxed way.
Very well put and insightful...seems like you are very aware and hope your future with the molecule stays positive..check out this weird perspective

I was self destructive drug addict abusing meth. All the times I've made the decision to get high I can only remember maybe a couple times I was slightly worth it. After some time it was all negative...every time caused major setbacks and irreversible damage even though I knew it was ruining my life I was never nervous about it. Lol. I completely understand it's a whole different drug with dependency. I'm just making a point of the way my brain is wired. I wish I was just as excited to breakthrough as I was in self destruction. As if I'm rebellious to the fact of growth and healing subconsciously. Or possibly fear of the unknown....maybe after experiencing a challenging trip I can at least understand how to navigate it and the anxiety will lessen
 
I've been hearing the call fairly consistently these last couple of months. My trepidation in diving in has been that i felt I haven't done enough work out here to be "worthy" of such fantastical experiences. The 'unwavering otherness' of these experiences can be so blissful. Some of the fear comes from a place of shame to feel that good. It's a fear of losing myself. Letting people down. Not being able to properly share the revelations of these experiences. Fear of falling into traps.
This is the appropriate attitude I think. I also have a sense of not being 'worthy' much of the time with this, which is not something I usually have with other psychedelics but should probably have more of. There's a reason DMT never took off in the psychedelic 60's compared with shrooms and acid. Partly its the ROA and the power of it but those other psychs lend themselves much more to hedonism and reverie. There is of course nothing wrong with this in itself if not done to excess, but in a way DMT precludes that by its nature.

Also because it's direct access to that pure Presence there is no hiding from it and its natural to want to eliminate negative traits the more you commune.


This sound has been far more friendly to me lately. It's a different feeling/sound to me than tinnitus. It feels more... intentional? It's typically synchronous with something I'm doing in waking life. Sparked by something I've pondered on in the space or simply remembering trips/thinking about taking one. Especially strange when I decide "it's time." it's like my body knows what I'm thinking and I react accordingly. Limbs start to get cold in preparation of the shock to the limbic system, telling me to prepare for the weather :p
I'm glad you report this also, I knew it had to be a far more common experience. Along with @Voidmatrix reports I think we can safely call the 'DMT Calling' a verifiable phenomena to look out for now in the DMT user landscape rather than simply an anomaly, I have spoken to others who have heard it also. The occurrance of the sound in sync with activities you do in your normal life is important as its part of the communication of the DMT Dimension and your relationship with it as it guides your path. If you notice any significant occurrances of the sound then share it as it is intriguing as to how the DMT communicates with us outside of tripping and the relationship to our use.

I was self destructive drug addict abusing meth. All the times I've made the decision to get high I can only remember maybe a couple times I was slightly worth it. After some time it was all negative...every time caused major setbacks and irreversible damage even though I knew it was ruining my life I was never nervous about it. Lol. I completely understand it's a whole different drug with dependency. I'm just making a point of the way my brain is wired. I wish I was just as excited to breakthrough as I was in self destruction. As if I'm rebellious to the fact of growth and healing subconsciously. Or possibly fear of the unknown....maybe after experiencing a challenging trip I can at least understand how to navigate it and the anxiety will lessen

Self destructive behaviours and overcoming them are part and parcel of the process of developing oneself. Some of them may be due to negative learned behaviours or from prior associations, or may have been coping responses to difficulties that became a crutch.
I also think however that a lot of it stems from a fear of our own power and potential. We dare not acknowledge our true capabilities so its often easier to revert to a lesser version of ourselves especially if that version is being reinforced by others also living in such a way.
The DMT Dimension shows us a better version of ourselves and the challenge is to meet and stabliize it in daily life, after which an even more well integrated and improved version will be shown next time and it continues if you can meet it. I would say breakthrough is less important than gradually opening to the insights shown and like any challenging path, accepting the certain amount of anxiety that is involved is part of that growth.
 
This is the appropriate attitude I think. I also have a sense of not being 'worthy' much of the time with this, which is not something I usually have with other psychedelics but should probably have more of. There's a reason DMT never took off in the psychedelic 60's compared with shrooms and acid. Partly its the ROA and the power of it but those other psychs lend themselves much more to hedonism and reverie. There is of course nothing wrong with this in itself if not done to excess, but in a way DMT precludes that by its nature.

Also because it's direct access to that pure Presence there is no hiding from it and its natural to want to eliminate negative traits the more you commune.



I'm glad you report this also, I knew it had to be a far more common experience. Along with @Voidmatrix reports I think we can safely call the 'DMT Calling' a verifiable phenomena to look out for now in the DMT user landscape rather than simply an anomaly, I have spoken to others who have heard it also. The occurrance of the sound in sync with activities you do in your normal life is important as its part of the communication of the DMT Dimension and your relationship with it as it guides your path. If you notice any significant occurrances of the sound then share it as it is intriguing as to how the DMT communicates with us outside of tripping and the relationship to our use.



Self destructive behaviours and overcoming them are part and parcel of the process of developing oneself. Some of them may be due to negative learned behaviours or from prior associations, or may have been coping responses to difficulties that became a crutch.
I also think however that a lot of it stems from a fear of our own power and potential. We dare not acknowledge our true capabilities so its often easier to revert to a lesser version of ourselves especially if that version is being reinforced by others also living in such a way.
The DMT Dimension shows us a better version of ourselves and the challenge is to meet and stabliize it in daily life, after which an even more well integrated and improved version will be shown next time and it continues if you can meet it. I would say breakthrough is less important than gradually opening to the insights shown and like any challenging path, accepting the certain amount of anxiety that is involved is part of that growth.
❤️ fear of our own power. Guess it's a long process to reverse the self destructive thought and life patterns. It makes too much sense.
 
I had previously shared about the seeming opposite equivalencey of hearing 'the call' from the DMT Dimension, and 'the lockout' effect or being barred from entering.

Furthermore, that the high pitched frequency 'carrier wave' associated with the DMT Dimension was also intruding into other waking experinces during daily life, specifically where I had made a prior commitent to self development in the presence of the Harmala+DMT space such as refraining from a vice, and if I was then on the verge of breaking it, the high pitched sound frequency was sometimes occurring on cue right at that moment to remind me of my vow.


So going futher on, I had been having absolutely incredible ever deepening and sequential experiences. What I have previously described as the 'psychosomatic smile' - the cause of which regards that which I won't go into in full, as it concerns certain and unshakable visionary knowledge...in this and in lives to come.

When seeing thus, the DMT consciousness is somehow physically pulling my facial muscles into new configurations with an actual real felt external force, levels of happiness and corresponding smiles not felt before. This has occurred several times now in the space...even psychomatic physical effects on the eyes which are very difficult to describe but again seem to be the higher dimension intersecting with this one, in order to be able to apprehend such beauty in the realities beyond the human...there is some kind of 'opening' needed and change to the 'frequency' with which the eye is functioning here in this form.



So going forward I had been enjoying these unfolding experiences...but then perhaps taking it for granted and I didn't fully keep my vow for self mastery and refraining in certain aspects. The result...lockout.


Unmistakably a result of breaking my commitment. It wasnt even hidden - the low level of conscious shift that I had attained after smoking where it would have usually been a huge blast off wasnt even subtle, it pretty much communicated to me:

"You didn't keep your commitment, you aren't coming here. You are interrupting the process and your lifes higher purpose and you know that".

I almost laughed in full agreement at knowing why and that I had even tried when I knew full well I wouldn't be.

No tolerance effect - it has been some time (at least two weeks and I don't partake often anyway, perhaps every other week or even sometimes not for several weeks at a time) same high dose, same batch, and...nothing.

It's also basically a good thing - sort out your act with integration and functioning at a better level in daily life, to be able to continue participating in the process. Its kind of a built in accountability check that stops it ever becoming merely a more frivolous form of hedonism or just using for enjoyment or novelty seeking.

The insights are also to me clearly now that:


- This Dimension of consciousness accessed by DMT supercedes the brain and the chemical itself. It is a more fundamental level of reality than the physical one and the baseline level of awareness. Therefore even though it is accessed via the chemical, it can override it and block your access.


- There is a purpose that can be accessed. The DMT Dimension or "God" has a path of development for your best self, and if you fulfil it things will fall into place and that includes sequentially incredible experiences with DMT, and levels of realization and synchronicities in daily life, and sometimes being summoned through hearing the call.

If you choose not to apply yourself and abide by this, things won't work out as well and you may even be blocked.

The lesson I learned in this case here is I need to be true. As I say, so I must do. Even, and especially to myself.
Until this lesson has been learned, and until I am operating at the level of being where this is second nature and always the case, access remains blocked.

- This approach doesn't necessarily need to be everyone's experience as people may use DMT for different purposes and in differnet ways. However this is using it for the sacred purpose and in context of using it to fufill your true purpose and path, and if you choose to take this up it will respond accordingly.

My sense is the DMT+Harmalas want you to partake in this way and if you do so it reciprocates, the Summoning and the Lockout being a gauge on your progress and a steering of the process by the DMT Dimension itself.


Since then I am renewing my commitents for right action...the Holy Sacrament will await partaking until this has been completed for a length of time. We shall see if access then is granted again which I expect it to be if I remain true...
 
I had kept my vow, so I thought I would partake again and see if I would be let in now. The high frequency sound call had been occurring again intermittently which was letting me know I could maybe go back but I had waited.

I was let in again...partially.

There was a sort of mocking celebration with sparkling poppers and lights, acknowledging that I had done enough to warrant readmission, but hardly worthy celebrating for how much I had fallen short. I laughed but was grateful nonetheless to no longer be locked out.

On a subsequent toke, I was then granted however a profound Third Eye Opening experience. Distinct feeling in the third eye region aligned with radiance of light beams narrowing in and 'scanning' or doing work on the whole system centred on the third eye.
As has been discussed by various people, it seems that there is an in-built kundalini or energy type of system that is being activated, and the sacrament is prompting me how to do this. I can still feel this area now and a subtle sensation there days later, its now within the range of my normal awareness and can be worked with.

I recall years ago reading in a Stanislav Grof text about how psychedelics like LSD could be seen as a 'path' that was equivalent to Kundlini yoga practice and thinking that didnt make much sense...however with these unfolding experiences with the Harmalas and Spice it all seems to be making very much sense now.


A few days later and I partook again as always with the harmala tea first.
I was confronted with... an incredible Silence...a profound silence that just seemed to deepen and deepened further. I recognize the saying that "God dwells in Silence". From the great silence emerged a profound state of consciousness akin to what can take years of meditation practice to attain to.

As I discussed before, meditation can be seen as the bottom up way where one develops viritue, quietens the mind, reduces negative tendencies and gradually brings the mind to silence and higher consciousness.

Psychedelics are top down - you access the higher consciousness first and from there let the effects permeate into your life and change your character.


I was awed at the accessing of this state and the unfolding of the depths of the layers of silence, which I realized go to untold levels.

I took another toke from the bong once the effects had abated after about 25 mins...the breath was held for some time cupping the smoke...the spice seemed to say "sing the glory of creation". I didn't literally sing but this was aligned with my previous instruction received to speak as I do and do as I speak.
I recognized a wave of superconscious reality going on and on and on that permeates yet is beyond all things, and partook in the creative joy appreciating its work, with all the starry galaxies and heavens we can participate in.
 
I was confronted with... an incredible Silence...a profound silence that just seemed to deepen and deepened further. I recognize the saying that "God dwells in Silence". From the great silence emerged a profound state of consciousness akin to what can take years of meditation practice to attain to.

As I discussed before, meditation can be seen as the bottom up way where one develops viritue, quietens the mind, reduces negative tendencies and gradually brings the mind to silence and higher consciousness.

Psychedelics are top down - you access the higher consciousness first and from there let the effects permeate into your life and change your character.


I was awed at the accessing of this state and the unfolding of the depths of the layers of silence, which I realized go to untold levels.
I highly doubt that psychedelics are a top-down approach to awakening. The higher self dwells in your Heart, and it governs what the ego can get access to. It's basically a firewall that guards you from yourself. Whatever high psychedelic state you achieve, it was meant to be and approved from on high. The door to higher realms can't be opened by the ego, because it's a level of magnitude higher than it. Gradual awakening exists only from our viewpoint, too. The ultimate is instantly attainable, because it forever exists in the Now.
the spice seemed to say "sing the glory of creation". I didn't literally sing but this was aligned with my previous instruction received to speak as I do and do as I speak.
Why not sing? There are two aspects to creation: silence (the underlying base or Shiva) and sound (energy or Shakti). It's not like they are separate from each other. It's more like two sides of the same coin. As they say, music is a well-punctuated silence. Expressing yourself with sound is a big part of manifestation. You make your energy flow and connect to the Great Mother Maya. Creation is a play of compassionate energy, and it loves expression. You develop your energy body that way too (singing is basically pranayama).

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There is a distinct high pitched frequency, a bit like the sound of tinnitus but louder and audible in the ear that accompanies the entry into the DMT space.
I have heard it described before as a "carrier wave" sound in some reports which I think is describing the same thing.

I've yet to notice a carrier wave, but then again my Tinnitus is pretty loud anyway, part of me deciding to start journeying into psychedelics is my hope that I can start to retrain my brain to stop paying attention to the persistent high pitched ringing, I figure I'm best on Psilocybin for this but I've started with DMT.
Tinnitus is not sound, only the brain's interpretation of damage to hearing, maybe I need a visit and surgery from a Mantid to remedy the problem.
 
I've yet to notice a carrier wave, but then again my Tinnitus is pretty loud anyway, part of me deciding to start journeying into psychedelics is my hope that I can start to retrain my brain to stop paying attention to the persistent high pitched ringing, I figure I'm best on Psilocybin for this but I've started with DMT.
Tinnitus is not sound, only the brain's interpretation of damage to hearing, maybe I need a visit and surgery from a Mantid to remedy the problem.
You could stop running from it and use tinnitus as a meditation support. Why use breath when a sound that you find disturbing is always there?
One could develop one hell of a shamatha practice based on it. After a few years of it, when you've started to kind of love the sound, just ask yourself: Who is hearing it?
When your attention shifts 180 degrees, and you are where there is no you, but just pure being left, all is done. There will be no need for any DMT or most of the mundane stuff at that point...

Why did I write it? Just to show that there are always different approaches to the so-called problem. One's problem is another's solution.

Peace 🙏
 
You could stop running from it and use tinnitus as a meditation support. Why use breath when a sound that you find disturbing is always there?
One could develop one hell of a shamatha practice based on it. After a few years of it, when you've started to kind of love the sound, just ask yourself: Who is hearing it?
When your attention shifts 180 degrees, and you are where there is no you, but just pure being left, all is done. There will be no need for any DMT or most of the mundane stuff at that point...

Why did I write it? Just to show that there are always different approaches to the so-called problem. One's problem is another's solution.

Peace 🙏
Funnily enough, my tinnitus ramped up quite a lot after a recent bout of air-pollution related sinusitis and my decision was exactly this - to use the sound as a focus for (what passes for, in my instance) meditative practice. While I can't report any specific enhancement of anything (especially considering I'm not applying any metric for determining even qualitative "success" here), I'll be taking your suggestion as further encouragement in any case.
 
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