Homemade Spice Wine Workspace

[oilman]

I have no idea if anyone else cares about this. I work in the alcoholic beverages industry in the US. I have been trying to make a Spice Wine that acts as a sort of psychedelic substance. I had one successful run, but I would want to make sure that the results were repeatable.

What I did:

I took 2 gallons of cheap, white wine purchased in a box. I added to it (all weights US):
2 oz star anise, 2 oz basil, 2 oz allspice, 2 oz nutmeg, 2 oz cinnamon, 2 oz black pepper. My main inspiration for the recipe came from the infamous Space Paste recipe posted on erowid. I soaked the spices in wine in a covered plastic bucket for 2 days. I then drank about 4oz. of it.

I noticed the effects after about 10 minutes. It was not like being drunk. It was more like absinthe. My vision was sharper, but I also had some tracers. My mind was super focused. I was in a great mood, laughed easily, and felt stimulated in a way very similar to LSA.

I have some theories about why this might work, but I think it's more important to establish that it works in a lot of other people before getting caught up in the theory. Any takers? Where I live, I put this together for about $10 US.

 

[The little mouse]

I used to work at an apothecary in boulder, we had this kid who would come in and get those essential oils you listed and a few others I don't remember. I knew something was up, I got the Tripper-Radar and one day I asked him what he was doing and he said making organic LSD

I laughed and told him to be careful consuming essential oils because they are so powerful. But we were required to say that, i eat lavender oil like its my job. I would be way down to make some. Give me a week o two and i'll report back.

Do you have your distillers license?

Much Love,

The Little Mouse

 

[oilman]

I don't distil anymore, but I used to have an old column still outside Boston. Yes, do let me know about how it goes. Hope to get more people involved and see if we can make something interesting here. It's so important these days to know how to utilize available herbs, especially in places where others are watched and regulated.

 

[evil804]

if you bring it to market, call it responsibly. All the alcohol companies would be promoting you for free by asking people to "please drink responsibly"

 

[oilman]

ha, that's a good one

 

[Eliyahu]

Hola,

My first tip would be use the nutmeg with great care as it can make you very sick or even be fatal in large doses I believe...might give a wicked hangover as well..inmates use nutmeg in prison
to get high on...it's not a pleasant high at all.

I managed an "upscale" wine and spirits place for a while, I noticed even after the restrictions on absinthe were released it was not the best selling product and hardly anyone reported any visual experience from it. There was also a coca liqueur available at the time, agua de bolivia I think it was called... there was more of a demand for this type of thing but then it became tricky to acquire because the distributor would have problems getting a steady supply.
IMO hallucinatory liquor or wine looks to be a hard sell at best when your talking about the general public...

...also I noticed the biggest consumer of wine in the US is middle aged women, one of the fastest moving wines I had ever seen was this garbage called "mad housewife". Goes to show you that a label and a name is about 80% of what makes or breaks a wine brand.

I believe that if you want something that will sell you need to give the people what they want and that seems to be either an amphrodesiac or a stimulant based liquor, or perhaps something that calms nerves, a benzo-like "mothers little helper wine" I'd say use valerian but it's too stinky. Maybe mexican poppy? or some legal non opiate poppy variety...Indian warrior is a deliciously floral smelling opiate like herb.. elaphants head flower is similar..not sure on the toxicity of those two however, I believe it is quite mild but I may be mistaken

I believe an amphrodesiac red wine would probably sell like crazy, you could use goji berries, horny goats weed or something like that perhaps, you would need something that appeals to women more than men if wines is what your marketing.

I believe you should also consider toxicity of what ever your using so no one dies and tries to sue you. Also don't make anything too insanely potent or it will just be banned in some way....Also, imagine the lowest IQ person you can think of consuming your beverage, what if they hurt themselves while on it thereby making you liable..or it causes side effects like addiction and depression etc?

not trying to be critical just giving you some food for thought..

 

[oilman]

My original post was not clear. I'm not trying to sell the stuff. I'm just around wine a lot and I'm trying to merge two passions.

 

[oilman]

ha.

I tried the same batch of wine, but after having left it for about a month. The potency was considerably less; it felt basically like alcohol. I'm not sure why that would be but if people are trying this, save some for me and try in a few weeks and let's see if that was a fluke or not.

 

[Eliyahu]

oh ok...well then, sorry I misunderstood there,,,but If it's just for you then....

Ergot wine is the legendary thing of all time, Christ being a possible user of it.

...However it is very complicated also possibly very dangerous to make. LSA wine may be similar and way simpler, safer...

Coca leaf wine is pretty darn incredible too by the way...