Honey locust forrest HELP (gpa made a portal)

[giftedbygodinaforestofsod]

Long story short my grandad moved to the country and planted a forest, he died before I was born. The year I was born, he had planted a honey locust tree on the property which is now like a mini forrest.

Upon discovering this I went down a rabbit whole to discover the entire forest is sacred plants all pointing towards a heaven/earth/sky connection portals and protection and divinity.

Now normally whatever; but im part cherokee. And an old Cherokee legend about these trees got me all over the place here cause it lines up SCARILY with my life.

Upon this discovery; ive realized my point in life. This was a gift and intentionally made for the divine of the family to access; my grandad knew a lot about plants and was a freemason; nobody else in the family knows nor cares enough about them yo learn all this...but I feel it's my duty to speak to the trees who have protected me for years. The trees who gr4e with me, the god that grew around me.

I know very little of how to harvest the root bark, how much is in what parts of the plants but I can do the extraction. Really looking for guidance here, as I plan to only take off the branching trees moy the mother trees, but I don't want to waste whats there.

Should I do the pods and the bark? Or jsut say fuck I and take down the entire dying tree and mulch it?

Ive been q psychonaut for a long time, astral protected and always been drawn 5o HERE no matter where i was. This forr4st has something special for me, too many coincidences...

I know im typing like a madman but I csnt speak how I want to speak because of the crackdown in general online. Please if someone vould give me guidance I'd be forever grateful. I mainly want to make a changa as while I did plenty of salvia inbthr day, dmt I haven't touched as I believe it would find me when I was ready....

Well, it found me. Now how do I refine it

 

[Transform]

Hi there and welcome. That's an interesting situation you find yourself in!

We have a couple of threads specifically about that tree:

Gleditsia triacanthos (Honey locust) is indeed entheogenic.

I was listening to the mind escape podcast, episode #275. P.D. Newman was discussing entheogenic plant use by native Americans. He said he has found evidence of the Cherokees using an Ayahuasca analogue comprised of Gleditsia triacanthos and Passiflora incarnata. The idea of honey locust being...

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Gleditsia triacanthos (Honey Locust) Seed Pods

Hey everybody! So I know that Keeper Trout did some tests on Gleditsia roots(Some Simple Tryptamines) and showed to contain DMT, but i am curious if anyone has any knowledge about Gleditsia seed pods and what they might contain. I have an almost unlimited supply of Honey Locust sees pods and...

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A search for the term 'gleditsia' turns up a few more mentions in passing.


It's still rather a work in progress, but it seems inner root bark will be the most viable source of active medicine.

There are two varieties; apparently the one with much longer thorns has a higher alkaloidal concentration.

Extraction methods should be much the same as for root bark from other species.

Given that you have a forest of clones to work with, that's a great opportunity to analyse the content of each and every separate part of the tree over the course of the seasons. If you're serious about this, it would be helpful to familiarise yourself with thin layer chromatography:

DIY Thin Layer Chromatography

whether one is extracting alkaloids from seeds or plant material, it helps to have a means of analysis, and a reference to compare it against. attached are a tutorial to make your own TLC plates, and a chapter on alkaloids from 'Plant Drug Analysis-A Thin Layer Chromatography Atlas'

forum.dmt-nexus.me

How do analytical methods work? (TLC, UV-Vis Spectrophotometry, GC-MS, LC-MS, etc)

1- Colorimetric tests Overview Colorimetric are qualitative tests to help telling presence or absence of a substance. They are liquid reagents that change to different colors depending on the substance. There are different kinds of colorimetric reagents which are more appropriate depending on...

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along with plenty more information in that subforum:

Plant Analysis and Substance Testing

Post your analysis results

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Of course, you can just extract the rootbark and hope you've been blessed with an active specimen - be sure to let us know either way, and best of luck!

 

[giftedbygodinaforestofsod]

Hi there and welcome. That's an interesting situation you find yourself in!

We have a couple of threads specifically about that tree:

Gleditsia triacanthos (Honey locust) is indeed entheogenic.

I was listening to the mind escape podcast, episode #275. P.D. Newman was discussing entheogenic plant use by native Americans. He said he has found evidence of the Cherokees using an Ayahuasca analogue comprised of Gleditsia triacanthos and Passiflora incarnata. The idea of honey locust being...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Gleditsia triacanthos (Honey Locust) Seed Pods

Hey everybody! So I know that Keeper Trout did some tests on Gleditsia roots(Some Simple Tryptamines) and showed to contain DMT, but i am curious if anyone has any knowledge about Gleditsia seed pods and what they might contain. I have an almost unlimited supply of Honey Locust sees pods and...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

A search for the term 'gleditsia' turns up a few more mentions in passing.


It's still rather a work in progress, but it seems inner root bark will be the most viable source of active medicine.

There are two varieties; apparently the one with much longer thorns has a higher alkaloidal concentration.

Extraction methods should be much the same as for root bark from other species.

Given that you have a forest of clones to work with, that's a great opportunity to analyse the content of each and every separate part of the tree over the course of the seasons. If you're serious about this, it would be helpful to familiarise yourself with thin layer chromatography:

DIY Thin Layer Chromatography

whether one is extracting alkaloids from seeds or plant material, it helps to have a means of analysis, and a reference to compare it against. attached are a tutorial to make your own TLC plates, and a chapter on alkaloids from 'Plant Drug Analysis-A Thin Layer Chromatography Atlas'

forum.dmt-nexus.me

How do analytical methods work? (TLC, UV-Vis Spectrophotometry, GC-MS, LC-MS, etc)

1- Colorimetric tests Overview Colorimetric are qualitative tests to help telling presence or absence of a substance. They are liquid reagents that change to different colors depending on the substance. There are different kinds of colorimetric reagents which are more appropriate depending on...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

along with plenty more information in that subforum:

Plant Analysis and Substance Testing

Post your analysis results

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Of course, you can just extract the rootbark and hope you've been blessed with an active specimen - be sure to let us know either way, and best of luck!

Very serious , this has been my hyperfixation in general for years I just hadn't realized what a gold mine i was sitting on. Going through the forrest, I have plants containing phenylyhamines, I have Mao b and mao a inhibitors, and in a very shroomg place (though, I haven't found magical ones on my property besides an amanita one yime a decade ago)

I feel it's my calling lol. I just don't know shit about analyzing stuff, don't have a lab, and I'm trying to not poison myself.

At the moment, I gathered a handful of the root of one of the smaller trees itself, some root bark, some tree bark, the reddest nettle i could find, and been gathering all the green seed pods and letting them dry/naturally brown as they dry.

I really don't want legal trouble either, but seeing as the lack of research in this field despite clear evidence of it working; woth the opportunity i have its kind of a no Brainer. Idk what the hell my grandad was up to; but when I know he made wine a lot...and I have his old freemasonry books; my dad thinks it's a coincidence and that there's no way my grandad would do thst but idk; I know i never met the man but the amount of coincidences and things lining up in my life just tell me that it's not true. It feels like I finally connected to something those who wete in the know would know....im no witch, my family hates witchcraft; but a witches foreest doesn't just appear out of no where....


Curious what yous suggest I do as far as home labbing? The most I've ever done before is the most ghetto ass setup to perform alkaloid extractions on kratom and salvia (most sage plants are psychoactivr in some way, I found how to take advantage of that)


Thinking of chopping one of the baby trees down entirely (they overhand where i mow) and using that yo be able to really see what this tree is made of; but unsure how that would affect t the trees around it. Theres some small ones though thst are genuinly in the way and I could remove pretty easily

 

[Long Con]

... I csnt speak how I want to speak because of the crackdown in general online.

What do you mean by this? I don't limit anything I say online, and have had no problems.

 

[eLeSDee]

I have found a plethora of these but yes..need to make sure it is not black locust & instead, actually honey locusts.

I wish someone could get down to business on extract and trying this out/identifying the actual molecule(s)

I am busy finding a young small tree to uproot since cutting big old trees down seems way messed up..I wish we could find out more info - like the seeds, makes me wonder what else may be active?!?

 

[taita]

I have found a plethora of these but yes..need to make sure it is not black locust & instead, actually honey locusts.

I wish someone could get down to business on extract and trying this out/identifying the actual molecule(s)

I am busy finding a young small tree to uproot since cutting big old trees down seems way messed up..I wish we could find out more info - like the seeds, makes me wonder what else may be active?!?

It's easy enough to tell black locust and honey locust apart. Black locust has short pods, bigger leaflets, and short thorns (<1"). Honey locust has long thorns 2"-14", small leaflets, and long pods ~12"

Their bark, growth habit/outline shape, and "character" are all quite different as well. Once you get to know them they're impossible to mix up

 

[eLeSDee]

Oh I have gotten to know the look quite well, and they seem to be everywhere..even as a kid I used to walk all over these huge pods and avoid the thorns while exploring the woods.

I just need a smaller one, to get that root!

Honestly though if the pods are just as strong that would be great, but who knows??

 

[taita]

Yes we need more experimental data on G. Triacanthos for sure

SWIM will be bioassaying some stem bark and crushed thorns before too long

Unfortunately, SWIM is pretty ignorant of chemistry and extractions beyond the simple aqueous and ethanolic