How long must I wait?

[Astro_traveler]

How long should should one wait to smoke spice again? My friend is new to dmt and wanted to know if he could make another attempt after the effects are gone.

 

[Astro_traveler]

Oh yeah and I remember reading somewhere before it takes about 2 hours, but i have no idea how true that is.

 

[ewok]

No need to wait, as soon as you want to just go again.

 

[Astro_traveler]

just smoked again... felt like i was close to the point of break through but i pushed it away... for some reason the vapors were very harsh... could it be because i smoke cigarettes(from half a pack to sometimes a whole pack a day) and smoke cannabis?

 

[Astro_traveler]

I forgot to put in the last post that my chest felt like it was going to cave in... i'm using a gallon water jug with foil on the bottom and all of it seems to be vaping... just very harsh

 

[Global]

Yep, the vapors are gonna be harsh. That's just the way that DMT vapor tends to be (*...waits for retorts...)

 

[Astro_traveler]

really? i don't remember reading about it hurting your chest too much.... i read a ton of posts but maybe never ran across one that mentioned it does.... not saying that there isn't

 

[Psychonaut In Orbit]

Well there is definitely a "pressure" that seems to manifest in and around the chest area. For me, a friend has taught me a breathing trick that helps with this pressure/pain. It's not really a "trick"... you have to "wait it out" when inhaling the vapor/smoke. When that pressure hits try your best to hold it another 5-10 seconds or as long as you can and I promise you the pain will go away. You wont even remember exhaling! :shock: :thumb_up:

 

[spiritual7pioneer]

The vapor may be harsh because you burned it.
I've found that if your vape method is flawless, it is not so bad.
But the instant you burn the spice, your throat will pay

I would also like to add, don't be so quick to go back.
I know it is incredible but if you use becomes too frequent and viewed as recreation then the spice
will "rip your face off".
Happy travels:}

 

[Album_Lux_Lepus]

I understand your situation ^^ I had an earth-shattering experience, and it shook me up quite a bit. I didn't smoalk for 3 months, haha. But from my former trips and experiences, I have realized that one day you will just be ready, always do psychedelics when YOU feel the time is right. Always have a good, determined mindset and be ready for anything. Let go.


lux

 

[Astro_traveler]

I understand your situation ^^ I had an earth-shattering experience, and it shook me up quite a bit. I didn't smoalk for 3 months, haha. But from my former trips and experiences, I have realized that one day you will just be ready, always do psychedelics when YOU feel the time is right. Always have a good, determined mindset and be ready for anything. Let go.


lux

I did not have a bad experience other than the fact my chest felt like it was going to explode. Every exhale felt like my lungs were collapsing that much more. I think it may have been my vape method. I'm going to try something different next time.

 

[olympus mon]

It sounds to me like your using too much heat. When dmt is vaped properly its a very light lung expansion. Some here have said its harsh but that's never been my experience unless I burned it. When you burn it its the most fowl, plastic smelling, horror show ever. I almost vomited once before I got my technique down.
What kind of pipe are you using?

 

[Astro_traveler]

It sounds to me like your using too much heat. When dmt is vaped properly its a very light lung expansion. Some here have said its harsh but that's never been my experience unless I burned it. When you burn it its the most fowl, plastic smelling, horror show ever. I almost vomited once before I got my technique down.
What kind of pipe are you using?

What I'm using is a gallon water jug with the bottom cut out with foil... I molded a little bowl in the center of the foil to act as a bowl... I don't have the craftsman skills to produce any other device and can't afford a gvg

 

[Astro_traveler]

3 things I forgot to mention in the last post. 1) What I'm using kind of works as a steam roller. 2) I can still taste the spice sometimes when I take a hit of cannabis or cigarettes. 3) Also the spice left me with a cough and wheeze.

 

[InLaKesh]

Your smoking device seems to be suboptimal
buy (or build) yourself a Bong (smaller than a gallon !) and try to sandwitch it between other herbs (or make yourself some enhanced leaf - see WiKi)
IMO even a normal pipe whould work better

happy travels

 

[olympus mon]

Yea brother your def burning it and Id bet your loosing a ton of spice as it melts. Why dont you just use the sandwich method? You must have a pipe in your possession and some parsley. thats all you need it will be much easier than what your trying to do. Throw out the milk jug and keep it simple.

Do you know how to do a proper sandwich?

 

[Astro_traveler]

Do you know how to do a proper sandwich?

I am but I want to be able to get as much as I can out it without wasting. I heard that method wastes and also burns. I also want to be able to do it all in 1 hit that's why I used the bottle with foil so I can just do one rip.

 

[3rdI]

I am but I want to be able to get as much as I can out it without wasting. I heard that method wastes and also burns. I also want to be able to do it all in 1 hit that's why I used the bottle with foil so I can just do one rip.

well it already sounds like you are burning and waisting your DMT because your smoking device is poor, so you dont really have anything to loose by changing your method.

I would follow the advice of people who have been there and done it already, give the sandwich method a try or better yet infuse some herb with your DMT, or make some changa which is even better.

saving a dollar a day will get you a shiney GVG in just 100 short days:thumb_up:

 

[anrchy]

I'm kind of confused why anyone would say the harshness and chest pain is normal. I have never experienced chest pain and only minimal expansion to none. I have only had very smooth hits that only have a very light taste except when I burnt the DMT.

I also don't recommend ever usin aluminum foil. The fumes from that alone will be very damaging to your lungs and body. Take a new piece of foil and hold a lighter to the bottom of it and watch the fumes come off it. Those are going in your body. I would say that's most likely what's causing your chest pains.

 

[Astro_traveler]

well it already sounds like you are burning and waisting your DMT because your smoking device is poor, so you dont really have anything to loose by changing your method.

I would follow the advice of people who have been there and done it already, give the sandwich method a try or better yet infuse some herb with your DMT, or make some changa which is even better.

saving a dollar a day will get you a shiney GVG in just 100 short days:thumb_up:

You're right, nothing to lose, since I'm already wasting and all.
I will for sure be saving for a gvg.
One more thing too... not quite sure on how to do the sandwich right and is a bong or pipe better? I have a little 6 inch bong