How much purification do Rue harmalas actually need?

[awalmartbag]

I have been thinking... if it is to be taken orally, how important is it to get high purity harmine/harmaline? I figure not terribly, since some just drink Rue tea without any extraction/purification.

Can I just use the light brown precipitate that one gets after 2-3 A/B cycles? Maybe adjust the dosage by a factor of 2 to account for impurities?

 

[Transform]

Can I just use the light brown precipitate that one gets after 2-3 A/B cycles? Maybe adjust the dosage by a factor of 2 to account for impurities?

Don't double the dose, there will be far less than 50% impurities and doing so will risk causing a challenging level of debilitation.

 

[blig-blug]

From a safety standpoint, not important. You may find information stating that it's desirable to get rid of vasicine and vasicinone because they are toxic. That information is outdated, they aren't toxic or dangerous at all at regular doses, with the exception of pregnant women, who should avoid them because they are uterotonic.

Purification matters more if you want to be exact with your doses and minimize any additional variables, or if you intend on vaping.

 

[Pumpy]

Some credible nexus posters think retaining the impurities by only making a simple tea is superior to extraction. I mainly use the extract now but i do remember the tea giving a somewhat more purely euphoric emotional state / body feel. Just a matter of degree i will have to imagine as I cannot stomach drinking it anymore =D Now imagining possibly drying the tea 100% and capping the result - haven't read anything about that yet but i will probably get around to trying next time i buy seeds

 

[awalmartbag]

Some credible nexus posters think retaining the impurities by only making a simple tea is superior to extraction. I mainly use the extract now but i do remember the tea giving a somewhat more purely euphoric emotional state / body feel. Just a matter of degree i will have to imagine as I cannot stomach drinking it anymore =D Now imagining possibly drying the tea 100% and capping the result - haven't read anything about that yet but i will probably get around to trying next time i buy seeds

Interesting... that's what I'm hoping to achieve. Did you try just the tea on its own or with DMT/MHRB extract to achieve that state?

 

[Transform]

Some credible nexus posters think retaining the impurities by only making a simple tea is superior to extraction. I mainly use the extract now but i do remember the tea giving a somewhat more purely euphoric emotional state / body feel. Just a matter of degree i will have to imagine as I cannot stomach drinking it anymore =D Now imagining possibly drying the tea 100% and capping the result - haven't read anything about that yet but i will probably get around to trying next time i buy seeds

I had a very pleasant evening yesterday with a 3g brew of light-medium toasted seeds, brewed three times with 150 mg ascorbic each time. The combined volumes totalled 600 mL, which was subsequently reduced to 250 mL with gentle simmering. The subjective effects were crisp, clean and euphoric. I'll do this again if I can get my toasting method down to a fine degree of precision. I may also try it without the ascorbic acid, or rather by substituting with citric or malic, to establish whether there was any conversion of harmaline to THH rather than it simply being destroyed or converted to harmine during toasting.