How to plug psychedelics

[Here&Now]

Don't miss this key detail:

There is MAO-A in the colon.

Oh ok, I wasn't aware of that. Good to know, thanks.

 

[Transform]

well [to be carfull with dose] i only plugged 1.36 grams of rue tea...and after 30 minutes vaped a couple medium hits
...[really.. very little dmt]... and very quickly with.. [lakota piano playing].. it washed over me with windows of vision..it was a wonderfull experiance and so colorfull1...

the come up was quick ..but not as quick as straight dmt...

The first 10 minutes the load was was getting quite heavy and i was loosing contact with my body off and on then at at one point ...i was starting to get anxious triping alone.. but told myself to relax and made my body relax and from then on it was so much easier to navagate through...!:thumb_up: after all im not a stranger to tripping...

I think i want to try to give my lungs a break and plugg the whole mess or plug the rue and take dmt mixed in orange juice...

i didnt really put that much rue in the plug trying to be carefull .. but what i used was very effective at making the dmt kick in visually...

after the first 20 minutes [seemed like a couple hour smost of the intensity was gone but i was still tripping for another 20 minutes lighter with nice CEVs...

If i plugged more rue than the 1.36grams of tea..would the stronger part of the trip lasted longer?

also would plugged rue and oral dmt trip last longer than this one/?

im still in the after glow!

@1Starway7 - did you ever get any further with this route?

 

[1Starway7]

@1Starway7 - did you ever get any further with this route?

No...that was a.... 2019 post..only tryed once..

by the way ...[my slow evaporation atempt] .. did not give any crystals yet...when the DMT salt ...water.... compleatly evaporated ...it left a shiny plastic like oderless..... dry to touch ... semiclear .....
[almost rubbery layer on bottom of dish]...i guess its still dmt..though... the shiny dry to touch layer.... after the citric acid water evaporated ... looked almost like i could peal the whole thing cleanly off the glass dish... never tryed.... ill let it dry further. would the citric acid still be in this stuff ?...or does it evaporate with the water?
if citric acid ..is in this stuff that would make it oral use only...no vaping because of the citric acid ...that may still be in it?

 

[Transform]

No...that was a.... 2019 post..only tryed once..

by the way ...[my slow evaporation atempt] .. did not give any crystals yet...when the DMT salt ...water.... compleatly evaporated ...it left a shiny plastic like oderless..... dry to touch ... semiclear .....
[almost rubbery layer on bottom of dish]...i guess its still dmt..though... the shiny dry to touch layer.... after the citric acid water evaporated ... looked almost like i could peal the whole thing cleanly off the glass dish... never tryed.... ill let it dry further. would the citric acid still be in this stuff ?...or does it evaporate with the water?
if citric acid ..is in this stuff that would make it oral use only...no vaping because of the citric acid ...that may still be in it?

Oh, OK. We'll talk about your citrate in the correct thread - although it looks like it could be rolled up and inserted intrarectally fairly easily at the moment

 

[1Starway7]

Oh, OK. We'll talk about your citrate in the correct thread - although it looks like it could be rolled up and inserted intrarectally fairly easily at the moment

looks that way dont it! very funny! ha ha...!




AI Overview



When water evaporates from a citric acid solution, the substance left behind is a white, crystalline solid, not a sticky glue....[this must be my waxy dmt citrate]?
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However, the residue may feel sticky or syrupy if not completely dry or if it is allowed to absorb moisture from the air. Citric acid can exist as a monohydrate and has a tendency to agglomerate or become sticky if exposed to humidity.
In industrial applications, citric acid can be used as a component in bio-based adhesives, but this usually involves mixing it with other materials (like starch or wood fibers) and applying high heat (around 180°C) to form a stable, cross-linked bond, a different process than simple water evaporation at room temperature.
In summary, simple evaporation of water from a pure citric acid solution at ambient temperature will yield a solid crystalline residue, which might be momentarily sticky if not fully dry. It does not turn into a permanent, conventional glue.

 

[Transform]

looks that way dont it!

I'd go for something rather lighter on the citric acid side, personally

 

[mdxxin]

Yes, I've got some Syrian rue for that but again, where would one start for a dosage? In the one paper I read, the study used a 1:4mg (DMT:Harmalas) ratio for oral ingestion.

 

[Here&Now]

Yes, I've got some Syrian rue for that but again, where would one start for a dosage? In the one paper I read, the study used a 1:4mg (DMT:Harmalas) ratio for oral ingestion.

Probably start around 500mg-1g of Syrian Rue and see how well it works. I don't have experience using Syrian Rue, but I've heard 3g is about the upper limit of what's comfortable.

For DMT, I wouldn't start any higher than 10-20mg.

 

[mdxxin]

Thanks. I hope to have a full report by midnight.

 

[Here&Now]

Thanks. I hope to have a full report by midnight.

Nice. Keep in mind though, the numbers I provided are conservative. You may have a few lackluster trips as you increase and find the right amounts.

Better that the trip be too weak compared to it being too powerful, imo.

 

[mdxxin]

Oh, one other.... Would Propylene Glycol be a good fluid to dissolve and administer the DMT?

 

[Here&Now]

Oh, one other.... Would Propylene Glycol be a good fluid to dissolve and administer the DMT?

Assuming you have DMT freebase, it would successfully dissolve in PG at up to ~1:1 ratio (1ml PG to 1g DMT), but I'm not actually sure if PG should be used as a carrier for rectal absorption. I've never heard of anyone trying that.

 

[mdxxin]

Me either. I'm just looking around my lab area. I like the idea of aloe or glycerin but I don't think the freebase is soluble.

 

[mdxxin]

Then again, it doesn't need to be dissolved in the carrier, correct? The freebase will work in a suspension?

 

[Here&Now]

Then again, it doesn't need to be dissolved in the carrier, correct? The freebase will work in a suspension?

I'm not sure if absorption would be slightly hindered in some way, but I have heard of people using insoluble psychedelics in water for plugging, and it sounds like it worked fine. It was 5-MeO-DMT freebase in water.