I am confused.... Any one have some input?

[Dextermor]

Okay so I have been looking for DMT for a while, and not the pen because all the times I have hit a pen, as hard as I can and multiple times I have never had more then a level three experience. Any way I recently found some freebase DMT and I was super excited. So it is pretty much white, and it tastes like DMT. I have now smoked it a total of 6 times, and half the time it does not work at all. I figured it was the way I was vaporizing it, I was using a clean dab rig, I took a few hits, and got a 1/4 ounce of mushroom level of experience at most. So I went a bought an Oil burner and did another hit off that, and it was more like a 1/2-ounce mushroom trip. Then last night I did maybe 30 milligrams, about what I have been doing, and had a full breakthrough level 5 experience, and my friend did as well off less then 30mg. Any way I was super excited and wanted to do a 50mg dose today, Figured it would grantee another breakthrough. I took a massive hit, held it for 20 seconds, and the entire time I was holding it was waiting to feel something. Literally nothing I mean i had a good head change and some visuals I would compare to maybe 2 grams of mushrooms.

Any tips? or input? I did not think DMT had a tolerance, but I only took one hit last night, and it had been a week since I last did any.

I am the kinda guy that doses 16 grams of A.P.E. shrooms, I like the insane experiences, and I am just so bumed out this is not working

 

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Maybe your receptors are fried

 

[Pandora]

My usual dogma is the DMT that you extract will be cleaner and stronger than any other.

Other than that, no DMT tolerance. To be sure let 1 hour pass before you try again.

 

[Voidmatrix]

DMT is finnicky and unfortunately isn't predictable like many other substances and molecules. If you're somewhat flippant, then the space can kind of mess with you. An example would be, similar to what you're describing, taking a breakthrough dose and getting the body and mind load with no visual content. In your case, you're barely getting an experience.

Without sounding woo-woo, but to be more on the nose, the more reverence and respect you have the deeper it'll take you.

One love

 

[Dextermor]

DMT is finnicky and unfortunately isn't predictable like many other substances and molecules. If you're somewhat flippant, then the space can kind of mess with you. An example would be, similar to what you're describing, taking a breakthrough dose and getting the body and mind load with no visual content. In your case, you're barely getting an experience.

Without sounding woo-woo, but to be more on the nose, the more reverence and respect you have the deeper it'll take you.

One love

I completely agree with the respect and understanding taking you deeper. Ive spent years doing that with mush rooms. I can get so plugged into the mind of god on them. They are damn near DMT level experiences . I have found a lot of knowing your self, and being truly honest with your self about all your flaws is what limits a lot of people. They are not ready to take a true hard look at them self's and when they do, they don't like what they see. For me personally extremely powerful psychedelic experiences have helped me in ways I can not even explain. but yeah, you don't sound "Woo-Woo"

 

[Voidmatrix]

I am curious, what is the highest dose you've attempted so far? Was it the 50mg? I think part of the problem is that you are likely burning some of the material in some instances. It could be in some other instances that you're not vaporizing enough. I'd have to see the oil burner after an attempt to really say. If there's still very light browning goo in there, you could've burned it longer. If it's black black, you burned it.

You can use the rig, and it may be more consistent. Just lower the heat. In this case, burn it nice and hot and then use a temp gun and wait for it to read about 300, dump your deems in, cap it, inhale, take off, and good luck!

One love

 

[Dextermor]

I am curious, what is the highest dose you've attempted so far? Was it the 50mg? I think part of the problem is that you are likely burning some of the material in some instances. It could be in some other instances that you're not vaporizing enough. I'd have to see the oil burner after an attempt to really say. If there's still very light browning goo in there, you could've burned it longer. If it's black black, you burned it.

You can use the rig, and it may be more consistent. Just lower the heat. In this case, burn it nice and hot and then use a temp gun and wait for it to read about 300, dump your deems in, cap it, inhale, take off, and good luck!

One love

Yeah the 50MG its some of the cleanest stuff ive seen its almost pure white, the burner is almost clean still, just some residue in the neck. I always thought you wanted high heat though, I am using a small torch, should I dial that back and maybe use a lighter? the last one I took was a massive hit, I held it for over 20 seconds and still exhaled a cloud.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Keep using the torch. Try not to let the flame touch the glass, but it ought to get damn close. I would also say to hold it in even longer. Try to ghost the hit. I am wondering if you're getting such a high concentration of vapor in one hit that it needs more time for your system to absorb it.

One love

 

[Dextermor]

Keep using the torch. Try not to let the flame touch the glass, but it ought to get damn close. I would also say to hold it in even longer. Try to ghost the hit. I am wondering if you're getting such a high concentration of vapor in one hit that it needs more time for your system to absorb it.

One love

I have a buddy stopping by later today, I am going to have him give it a try and see what happens.

 

[brettsta]

Not sure if anyone has asked this but did you make it yourself ?
I make mine yellow , ivory . I found white burns too easy, and I don't think purer means better,
I have much more success with yellow .

Also a good desk vape is a no brainer , could even be a dry weed vape with a steal pad.

 

[Dextermor]

Not sure if anyone has asked this but did you make it yourself ?
I make mine yellow , ivory . I found white burns too easy, and I don't think purer means better,
I have much more success with yellow .

Also a good desk vape is a no brainer , could even be a dry weed vape with a steal pad.

I didn't make it myself. I agree I have had more success with the yellow as well. Its just strange I just put about 150 MG in my burner, I was getting some good mental trips, Some deep understanding, like when I was holding one of the hits, how my conciseness creates the world around me made a lot of since. I was getting deep understandings of how time and space work. And a random song came on YouTube at one point and it was fully speaking to me, Little to no visuals however. If I closed my eyes and relaxed, they got a bit more profound, I am going to just stick with the Yellow Sand from here on out

 

[Dextermor]

Not sure if anyone has asked this but did you make it yourself ?
I make mine yellow , ivory . I found white burns too easy, and I don't think purer means better,
I have much more success with yellow .

Also a good desk vape is a no brainer , could even be a dry weed vape with a steal pad.

Not sure what's going on now, But I have had like 3 Great trips in the past 2 hours now

 

[Voidmatrix]

Not sure what's going on now, But I have had like 3 Great trips in the past 2 hours now

This is the trickster of all molecules my friend.

One love

 

[The_Embalmer]

It really just be like that sometimes honestly

 

[new_science]

When you say a "level three" experience, are you referring to the Shulgin Scale, which rates psychedelic experiences from + to ++++, with the quad plus being a transcendental experience? Because it's impossible to achieve a plus four simply by intending to. We don't get to pick and choose when those happen, no matter the drug, dose, or setting. DMT experiences, yes, on average, probably get closer than most other psychedelics when using a common dose. And maybe you could get that white light dissolution type of feeling from 5-MeO-DMT. But to be serious about it, for all intents and purposes, placing expectations on a planned psychedelic experience is one of the most limiting things we can do for ourselves.