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dtctbaj

dtctbaj

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This is my first ever post on this site.

Hello everyone. After quite some time (years) of experimenting with all the many suggested methods of ingesting spice to include the digital Volcano, VaporGenie, glass pipe, The Machine and a few others - I have to say, and with much relief and excitement, I finally feel I have found what I believe to be the most effective, efficient and convenient method of delivery that allows me to break through every time and with practice has allowed me to remain in the state for extended periods of time without the use of Harmine rues or freebase. It consists of the use of a .5 ohm mod vaporizer utilizing 100% food grade Propylene Glycol with a mixture of 1.1 PG to spice. With the use of a hairdryer the spice easily and quickly dissolves in the PG with absolutely zero recrystallization or degradation of the potency of the spice from what I can tell - even over extended periods of time. Utilizing this device eliminates the potential for wasting spice, which I have encountered with all other methods, but most importantly, allows me to kick back in my reclining chair and allows me to keep my eyes closed while continuing to hit the device over and over as I feel the state beginning to fade. This literally allows me to stay deeply immersed in alien realms for, well, as long as I feel comfortable doing so. For years I utilized delivery methods that were too short lived (2-3 minutes) and "crap" I was back. To get back into the state I would need to first open my eyes and fumble through the process of re-administering an additional dose. This process completely kept me from being able to explore the other side in ways I've only now been able to with the use of this device and method. I had fairly good luck with my volcano but never could get dense enough vapor to be able to break through with quick tokes - and the bag was so loud it was a total distraction to my experience. This new method is so much better than any other methods (for me) that I finally feel my search for the perfect way to ingest spice for the best possible experience each time has now ended, thankfully. I have included a picture of my setup if you're interested. I am so thrilled this site exists and thank all those responsible and all those that contribute to the wealth of knowledge contained within its many pages. :thumb_up:
 

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Hey, I've set my eyes on this - thanks to you...

Could you tell how many tokes do you normally need to take to break through? I know the milleage does vary, but i think it would still be good to know yours :)
 
For me it takes 3 medium sized tokes taken over the first 60 seconds and I am quickly fully immersed in the break-through. Once there it takes an additional quick hit approx every 1-2 minutes to remain there. The key to achieving the best results for me is to NOT OPEN YOUR EYES. When I'm able to re-dose without doing so I go much deeper and the experience is so much better than the short 2-3 minute trips I was experiencing with all other delivery methods. It's like a whole different deal for me now. The other thing that has improved the experience is utilizing just the right amount of lighting that seems to back-light (through my closed eyelids) the visuals I experience. I have experimented with several mixture ratios and toke sizes (dose amounts) from too weak to too strong where I pass out with little memory of the experience. I feel the 1.1 ratio is perfect for me. With much practice I am now able to remain total aware of my physical situation while completely submersed in completely alien realms, the most amazing outlandish alien realms beyond imagination. Utilizing these methods has allowed me to be able to (while totally in the state) verbalize what I'm experiencing in real time, so I'm able to share my experience with my wife in real time. I have also found that recording my experiences in real time verbally with the recorder on my iPhone while completely submersed has helped me to better evaluate and appreciate each experience. My wife has been practicing this exercise for awhile now and is having some success. Utilizing this new method, the vaporizer device, the lighting and verbalization techniques has completely enhanced the DMT experience for me and my wife. I would highly recommend giving it a try.
 
This is my ideal method also but I've not got to far with it, can you tell me the exact setup you have, ie mod, tank ect and what voltage/watt you use
 
Any links and additional info how it works, price etc.
Sounds interesting since i have also purchased a device that i feel it is very effective and promising specially for having it on you since its very small and incognito.
 
I use "The Flagship MOD" vaporizer (reviewed here -
) and the "Atlantis Aspire" tank and coil (reviewed here -
) combined as my setup. I bought both components from my local Vape Store but both are available for around 100 and 40 respectfully for a total of 140 for both all over the web. You'll also need to by a 35A 18650 2500mAh 3.7v Rechargeable Flat Top Battery - or two. They are available on Amazon here ( Amazon.com ) I'm sure there are many other similar MODs that would work as good or better than my particular setup, however I think the sub ohm (mine is .5) is an important criteria for vaping DMT properly. Again, I highly recommend this or similar type setup. I'm confident you shall not be disappointed.
 
dtctbaj said:
For me it takes 3 medium sized tokes taken over the first 60 seconds and I am quickly fully immersed in the break-through. Once there it takes an additional quick hit approx every 1-2 minutes to remain there. The key to achieving the best results for me is to NOT OPEN YOUR EYES.
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Fwiw, devices, such as the GVG (or bongs/bubblers for changa), that allow you to get it all in one hit are much more efficient than delivery systems that take multiple hits. Additionally, if you are able to take subsequent hits every 1-2 minutes, I would suggest that you are not going very deep. Similarly, if you have the sense of having a physical body (such as having eyes/being able to open them) during the experience, I would posit that breakthrough likely hasn't taken place.

Just my $.02.
 
SnozzleBerry said:
Fwiw, devices, such as the GVG (or bongs/bubblers for changa), that allow you to get it all in one hit are much more efficient than delivery systems that take multiple hits. Additionally, if you are able to take subsequent hits every 1-2 minutes, I would suggest that you are not going very deep. Similarly, if you have the sense of having a physical body (such as having eyes/being able to open them) during the experience, I would posit that breakthrough likely hasn't taken place.

Just my $.02.
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Efficient yes, but practical to keep going in your trip, i'm not sure. It's really difficult to set up everything by yourself if you're not back to nearly baseline with those devices.
I try to trip in the same way as dtctbaj (random letters for a name or there is something behind ?) even if i use a different device (volcano) combined with harmalas to give me a wider time window to ingest the magic. This way you can trip for hours if you want without coming back to baseline, which can be very interresting.
But i totaly understand everyone as his own approach.

I'm really happy with the volcano but this method (e-cig) could be a winner for outside experiences. Thanks for your repport.
 
I appreciate your feedback SB. I have mixed stronger ratios that allow me to achieve breakthrough easily with one big hit, however the PG does get somewhat thicker and doesn't vaporize quite as well at the thicker consistencies. This lead to having to replace the coil more frequently. Even with the 1.1 ratio I could achieve breakthrough with two larger tokes if desired. I prefer launching with 3 medium sized tokes, all taken within the first minute. I find this route eases the pre-flight jitters that in the past I found uncomfortable at times. Over the years I've been exploring DMT I'm pretty confident I've tried most of the many discussed delivery methods - never via IV though. I can assure you this is the one that works best - at least for me. I'd love to be able to hand you my MOD, have you hit it as discussed and hear your feedback once you return to the here and now. I can assure you, its a beautiful thing to instead of opening your eyes after that couple minutes - with eyes still closed hit it again...and again... remaining there to explore longer and deeper.
 
I'm glad this is working for you!=) I can see SnozzleBerry's point. Also its worth pointing out that while the harmalas do extend the trip, that is not their sole function.
 
FranLover said:
I'm glad this is working for you!=) I can see SnozzleBerry's point. Also its worth pointing out that while the harmalas do extend the trip, that is not their sole function.
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Genuine question - what are their other function(s)? Do they change the quality of the excursion?
 
i think by recent posts, its become evident that taking oral harmalas and vaping dmt with a RDA mesh as a 1 hitter (considering you're worried about dropping the vape or burning yourself so you won't use GVG) would be the best option
IME i've had changa stay in effect for 30 to 45 minutes, when the harmalas are taken orally specially at higher doses theres a significant difference in the trip
i'd say if you're able to hold a huge cloud of PG DMT vapor for a long time you can use these vapes (will probably need to increase voltage for a thick cloud), but that is unnecessary and i'd think it may cause some breathing problems at the start of the trip
 
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