I retract this. I'm wrong in this matter.

[beatenwarrior]

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[dreamer042]

I actually appreciate that I can talk to you about why I'm flagging these videos. I rarely get the opportunity to talk to the people making videos with poor information about DMT.

Why don't we take this crisis and turn it into an opportunity?

100,000 views is pretty impressive, that's quite a wide audience. I think you should remake the how to DMT video, but this time don't try to play the expert with inadequate information, draw upon the community and the knowledge base you've found here on the nexus. Rather than sit here and bicker and argue, let's do something productive. :thumb_up:

So what does a well made "How to DMT" video look like?

It would explain what DMT is, what it's risks are, what research and information is available and how to find it, and yes even where do I get it, with special consideration to the legal, ethical, and environmental implications involved.

It would at least provide an overview of DMT extraction and links to good teks and information to extract it safely. If an extraction section is included in the video all necessary safety precautions should be followed and it should be vetted by a few of our resident chemists for safety and accuracy.

It would explain there are many routes of ingestion for DMT and that there are many smoking devices available, this is a big flaw in the previous video as it only focuses on one smoking device and one of the harder to work with ones. Something like changa or enhanced leaf is generally a lot easier for an inexperienced person to work with for example.

It would contain relevant and accurate information about using harmalas/MAOI's, how they work with DMT, what the risks are, and how to use them safely.

I would explain the importance of set and setting and offer ideas of how to create a safe space for the experience both internally and externally.

It would explain dosage and effects thoroughly at all levels. It would explain how sensitivities differ to this compound and encourage people to start low and work their way up to finding the dose that is right for them.

It would explain the onset time and duration, a general idea of what effects to expect, and how to surrender to the experience. It would also explain the observable external effects for any else present, such as the journeyer writhing around in terror, going into convulsions, projectile vomiting, speaking in toungues, etc.. etc... These type of effects could be alarming to someone who is not familiar with this compound, thus it's prudent to at least provide some basic information on how to be an effective sitter.

Finally and most importantly it would provide basic information and resources for integrating the experience and encourage the journeyer to report their experience and connect with others for ongoing support and learning.

I think such a video would really be an ideal way to communicate good accurate information to the masses and help dispel some of the mystique and misinformation that is constantly regurgitated all over the internet about this molecule.

 

[SpartanII]

The reason I keep arguing is because I'm offended with the way you guys are bullying me.

No. The reason you keep arguing is because you've attached your ego to your videos and so the reactions of the viewers and Nexians in this thread aren't aligning with your expectations and beliefs.

In one of your videos you promote Gandhi's quote about being the change you wish to see in the world, yet you don't practice what you preach. You come on this site wining about how disgusted and offended you are at us Nexians flagging your videos, destroying your hard work that could change the world. Sorry to be blunt, but that sounds pretty self-important and immature and it's in opposition to the kinds of themes you're trying to promote in your videos. That's why I said it's coming from your ego. This whole thing isn't completely about helping people, it's about you. Your point of view. Your beliefs and expectations. Your moral standpoint and ideals. If it was truly altruistic and selfless, you wouldn't be getting so offended and defensive. You would have tried your best, made a few mistakes, came across new information, adapted, and moved on.

We all operate from the ego. That's what being alive on this planet entails. Sure, I could have *reacted less.* But my reaction is what my reaction is. I'm not going to alter my emotions to keep up some sort of mystical appearance. I'm human. I enjoy being human.

Sounds like a cop-out. You may have egoic tendencies/habits/emotional inertia, but you always have a choice in how you choose to respond to life. It's not a matter of keeping up an appearance, it's a matter of strategy in choosing the most effective and responsible behavior.

I'm really not trying to pick on you. I'm just calling it like I see it. You have good intentions and seem like a good guy, but for god's sake man, get over yourself and let it go. All of it. Or you may have to change your user name from beatenwarrior to beatendeadhorse.

 

[kgp4death]

it is not about him and his ego and his views, it is possible to make a great video with out letting go of ego it is content of video nothing else, he doesn't need to be Buddha to make a good solid facts video. he doesn't even really need to smoke it just give facts like an encyclopedia.

 

[Heyt]

it is not about him and his ego and his views, it is possible to make a great video with out letting go of ego it is content of video nothing else, he doesn't need to be Buddha to make a good solid facts video. he doesn't even really need to smoke it just give facts like an encyclopedia.

Spartan was referring to this thread, not the video - from what I understand. Although beatenwarrior wears a lab coat with an anatomy poster in the background in his How to DMT video, which is a sneaky way to appear as an authority on the subject despite the fact that the info in the video is not correct - which could be interpreted as egoistic. Anyhow, I think this thread is sort of missing the point.

 

[Jees]

He'd better draft and present a checkup version here before uploading again, so we don't fall into loops.

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[kgp4death]

you got to know it isn't just this community, I suspect many off these kinds of videos get flagged and removed all the time. Some seem to be going out of there way to flag but eventually it will be flagged by someone else.

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[The Traveler]

Even if i saw a video that said smoking DMT will make you fly, so you should begin jumping off cliffs. I wouldn't flag said video.

That you do not take responsibility does not mean others shouldn't either.

You talk about harm reduction but I do not see you practicing it. And just as you think that it is your right to have free speech we think we have our right and freedom to flag video's that we feel are irresponsible.

Somehow people who talk about rights and freedom often forget that such things works both ways.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[Jees]

...But don't bully them into removing it. This is school yard behaviour....

If you really encourage the world to poke 80 mg in a pipe, then any method, even school yard methods are legit to prevent such utter madness from spreading. Who's helping the world here?

 

[TGO]

I actually appreciate that I can talk to you about why I'm flagging these videos. I rarely get the opportunity to talk to the people making videos with poor information about DMT.

Why don't we take this crisis and turn it into an opportunity?

100,000 views is pretty impressive, that's quite a wide audience. I think you should remake the how to DMT video, but this time don't try to play the expert with inadequate information, draw upon the community and the knowledge base you've found here on the nexus. Rather than sit here and bicker and argue, let's do something productive. :thumb_up:

So what does a well made "How to DMT" video look like?

It would explain what DMT is, what it's risks are, what research and information is available and how to find it, and yes even where do I get it, with special consideration to the legal, ethical, and environmental implications involved.

It would at least provide an overview of DMT extraction and links to good teks and information to extract it safely. If an extraction section is included in the video all necessary safety precautions should be followed and it should be vetted by a few of our resident chemists for safety and accuracy.

It would explain there are many routes of ingestion for DMT and that there are many smoking devices available, this is a big flaw in the previous video as it only focuses on one smoking device and one of the harder to work with ones. Something like changa or enhanced leaf is generally a lot easier for an inexperienced person to work with for example.

It would contain relevant and accurate information about using harmalas/MAOI's, how they work with DMT, what the risks are, and how to use them safely.

I would explain the importance of set and setting and offer ideas of how to create a safe space for the experience both internally and externally.

It would explain dosage and effects thoroughly at all levels. It would explain how sensitivities differ to this compound and encourage people to start low and work their way up to finding the dose that is right for them.

It would explain the onset time and duration, a general idea of what effects to expect, and how to surrender to the experience. It would also explain the observable external effects for any else present, such as the journeyer writhing around in terror, going into convulsions, projectile vomiting, speaking in toungues, etc.. etc... These type of effects could be alarming to someone who is not familiar with this compound, thus it's prudent to at least provide some basic information on how to be an effective sitter.

Finally and most importantly it would provide basic information and resources for integrating the experience and encourage the journeyer to report their experience and connect with others for ongoing support and learning.

I think such a video would really be an ideal way to communicate good accurate information to the masses and help dispel some of the mystique and misinformation that is constantly regurgitated all over the internet about this molecule.

This! I mean, if you are going to make a video (or remake it), then Dreamer did a great job of outlining how it should be approached. This would help educate people when they are too lazy to educate themselves.

Edit: I know we believe in no spoon feeding here at the Nexus but it is Youtube, the land of misinformation. Finding legitimate and trustworthy information over there is rare. Almost everything should be taken with a grain of salt. If only everyone in the world would do their own research...

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[Godsmacker]

IMO DMT extraction videos have no purpose and are terrible things indeed. I have found nothing but misinformation and self incriminating stupidity when glancing at these travesties. All these videos do is give LEOs more evidence to use against you in court and draw negative attention to those who work with these plants. If it weren't for all the stupid videos of poo-poo heads blowing their brains to smitherines with Salvia on youtube, it may have a better reputation than it currently does in government.

Youtube is the world's video store and everyone watches those. By everyone I of course mean everyone who has internet access and knows what youtube is. Everyone includes people of all degrees of intellect and personality and age and other such characteristics. Displaying this information on such a widely-used website is asking for trouble. Those thousands of views on a DMT making video could range from LEOs getting evidence against you to teenagers trying to get high on whatever they can find on ebay to disgruntled evangelicals who revere drugs as the devil to just about everyone who should have access to this information and the masses of millions of others who shouldn't. Not posting extraction videos on Youtube is common sense and should be viewed as such. If you smoke a joint in front of a police station you aren't going to have a good time. If you post a video of you manufacturing a controlled substance on one of the most trafficked sights on the internet, you aren't going to have a good time.

 

[Godsmacker]

And just as you think that it is your right to have free speech we think we have our right and freedom to flag video's that we feel are irresponsible.

Somehow people who talk about rights and freedom often forget that such things works both ways.

I'm sorry it doesn't work that way. You believe it is your "right" to shut people up forcefully? By all accounts that is NOT freedom of speech. That is called the opposite my friend.

That is called censorship.

Maybe if I frame this in a different angle you will understand. "Flagging a video" to have it removed is the equivalent to hitting "delete" when someone is talking to you and they share an opinion you don't agree with. It's eliminating them without even offering constructive criticism or trying to explain why what they are doing is wrong.

Yes, you have the freedom to shut people up instantly who share information you don't like. Just like you, as the owner of this forum, have the right to delete any post you don't like. Does this mean it is right though? No. It means you are taking a place of control over another person.

If this were a moral argument you would be correct. It's nice to be able to shut people who who share potentially harmful information. But this is an argument about freedoms. And even if someone is expression an opinion you don't agree with, they still deserve the freedom to express that opinion.

In going around mass flagging videos you don't approve of - BEFORE EVEN TALKING TO THE PERSON WHO MADE THE VIDEO - and seeing if they will accept the constructive criticism - you are censoring the information available to suit your own personal needs.

I'm not arguing those needs have a "just" backbone. I'm arguing you are censoring people which is not practicing allowing individuals their freedoms.

I believe this goes against what DMT teaches us.

But please, believe in your illusions. What else do we have anyway.

I would like to ask you to not post such videos on youtube. There is a plethora of well written information regarding spice scattered all over the internet which anyone with an internet connection can find with a simple google search. When I first got interested in DMT, I didn't look up a how-to video; I joined the Nexus and started reading up on the process and experience in order to educate myself as to how to work with Psychedelics in a safe and responsible manner. Posting extraction videos on youtube is unnecessarily stupid and only adds to the pile of evidence that may be used against you in a court of law and accelerates the criminalization of these sacraments by the powers that dominate our society. What is it that you want to get out of these videos? More likes? More views? More subscribers? An all expense paid ten year vacation in one of our nation's finest prisons? Why do you persist in trying to get us to go along with your videos when they go against every aspect of our attitude and put the pigs on our trails? I would appreciate it if you could refrain from posting any further self-incriminating evidence on youtube and find something better to share with the world.

-Godsmacker

 

[Bill Cipher]

I'm just now seeing this whole thread, and didn't feel the need to jump in until I saw this:

Once you break through dose no longer becomes relevant you are out of this world. It's not as if the increase from 40mg to 80mg would increase your chances of damaging your mental health if you were prone to it.

Who the hell are you to make these claims? No one who's experienced the upper end of that dosage range, I would bet. Regardless, that point of view completely discredits you, and it can only get someone hurt.

Personally, I don't really care what your motivations are (though it doesn't take a lot of cynicism to see a desire for internet fame and monetization as the bedrock of your calling). Regardless, I think you're bad news for anyone who cares about DMT and entheogenic liberty in general. You're way too cavalier about indoctrinating people into this experience - people you have zero direct contact with and will never know should they end up hurt by your actions.

I also found the video I watched to be silly, embarrassing and altogether adolescent, but that's really beside the point. I just think you're reckless and goofy and no one I would wish to see presenting themselves as an authority on something so powerful.

That's why I'll flag you.

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[beatenwarrior]

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[Koornut]

You're way too cavalier about indoctrinating people into this experience - people you have zero direct contact with and will never know should they end up hurt by your actions.

The subject matter cannot fit into a simple how-to.
Multi-part interactive lectures, coupled with testing on the other hand...

 

[Heyt]

How could going from 40mg to 80mg get someone hurt? How many people can clear 80mg in one go? Chances are high they'd be well blasted off before completing the entire dose. And if they weren't, chances are high they are an experienced user and know what they are doing.

80mg is incredibly easy to clear in one go - I know from experience. In fact, that experience has left me emotionally scarred ever since and changed my life forever - in a very negative way. You should be ashamed of yourself. How dare you. You are consciously supporting dangerous abuse of one of the most powerful substances in the world. Your true colors have been shown. If I sound furious it's because I am. You have the entire resources of the Nexus at your disposal and choose ignorance and worse - you promote ignorance through misinformation. That's despicable. :thumb_dow