Identification and Hyperspace Travel

[Perennialphil]

Hello fellow humans,

I recently turned 30 and as a birthday gift, a friend of mine got me some DMT. He'd heard I was on the quest to find some for a long time, and voila, I now find myself with two tiny clear capsules with crushed brownish crystals inside. I have no clue what to do with this, whether I should smoke it, snort it, put it in my butt, make drops with it or just pop the capsules in my mouth. I read up and know that if it's salt, smoking it could be dangerous... I'm not sure what form of DMT this is. I was hoping someone could give me some advice. I will get a scale if needed, as I'm pretty sure I will need to? My goal is to get launched into space, talk to those beings that sometimes appear... you know, the cool stuff ;-).

Thank you so very much!

Perennialphil

 

[Mustelid]

Since you didn't extract yourself, you have a couple mystery pills. I'd recommend doing a lot more research here, you can learn about safe extraction techniques, ROA, dosages and such.

Really, how much do you trust your friend, do they extract it themselves, if so ask more questions at the very least. You said yourself you didn't know if it's in salt, acid, or base form. I wouldn't personally consume any mystery pill.

The margin between nice visuals to breakthrough to gone way too far are too slime for eyeballing dosages. I'd recommend at the very least getting a milligram scale and perhaps doing a re-crystallization on what you have.

DMT is not orally active without a RIMA / MAOI inhibitor, usually harmala alkaloids derived from yage (banisteriopsis caapi), or syrian rue (peganum harmala). There are certain health risks with these if you're on certain medications as SSRIs, Amphetamines, and others.

You've got the right idea by coming here and asking for advice, rather than jumping in blindly, that's very admirable. A psychonaut's sense of adventure does need to be tempered by maturity and caution.

Welcome to the Nexus!

 

[endlessness]

Welcome to the Nexus

You should ask your friend if it's freebase or a salt.

Also you have to know how many mg's that is... Dosages are found in the FAQ

You should decide if you want to smoke or take orally. That is completely up to you, each one has it's particularities. If you want to smoke, it should be in freebase form, and you can easily convert it to freebase if it's a salt. Search our forum/wiki for 'fumarate to freebase conversion' for example. For oral ingestion both freebase and salt work well, dissolve in lemon or orange juice with harmalas and drink. But please be sure what you have is pure dmt, ask your friend for more details on extraction method and look at this:

IMPORTANT: spice color purity fallacy AKA is your dmt ok to smoke ? - DMT Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

good luck

 

[Perennialphil]

Thank you so much for replying folks.

My friend is very reliable, though he himself did not make this. I cannot attest to the legitimacy of his source, though I have faith in him. Upon further questioning, I've discovered that there is "according to the dealer, enough for two strong dosages, taken orally, or three modest ones."

Does that clarify things a bit? Will taking it orally like this send me to hyperspace? I read that post earlier this morning about converting to freebase using vinegar... Interesting stuff ;-).

 

[endlessness]

No you dont convert to freebase using vinegar, vinegar makes it acidic, thus a salt (acetate). Though you can convert an acetate to freebase.

Please read the FAQ and the Health And Safety sections (link under the banner).

I don't believe in trustable dealers when it comes to DMT. If he was trustable, he would have given it, not sold it. Here in the forum you have many easy and safe teks to extract your own DMT. If you don't know what the process of extraction was, and the quality of the chemicals used, how will you know if your DMT is clean?

I suggest you at the very least recrystallize it, then extract your own next time. Avoid anything to do with commercialization of this substance (as our attitude page says, we are against it). Recrystallization instructions are in the FAQ

Regarding oral ingestion, you need to take together with a MAOI. Please research this, most of these questions are answered by a bit of reading, checking FAQ and the wiki in general.

Good luck!

 

[Perennialphil]

Thank you endlessness . I will study the recrystallization guide.

 

[endlessness]

I'd also use a tiny amount to reagent-test it to make sure you have what you think you have. DMT should turn pinkish with ehrlich, slow light brown reaction with mandelin, yellow to brown with marquis, and turn algae green to brown with mecke reagent. You can find different sellers of these reagents in the colorimetrics link in the thread in my signature.

 

[hadoq]

I've discovered that there is "according to the dealer, enough for two strong dosages, taken orally, or three modest ones."

this is what concerns me. Since DMT by itself is not orally active, it'd lead me to think that either

1. if there is DMT in there, there also has to be something else for it to be orally active
2. it's completely something else

I don't know how much a picture would help, but it might a little

maybe the "purpose" of those pills was to bring you here, just put you on the path.

 

[Perennialphil]

Could it be mixed in with an MAOI?

 

[endlessness]

Please do NOT mix with a MAOI unless you have properly identified what it is by testing!

At the very least test with 3 or 4 different reagents (suppliers are in my signature's thread in colorimetrics link)

DMT should be:

Marquis: Yellow → orange
Mecke: Tan → dark algae green → black
p-DMAB-TS: Yellow -> (slow) green
Ehrlich: Pink → magenta
Simons: Most dissolves, the rest forms some black precipitates with simon A, no changes with simon B
Mandelin: No reaction → slow tan brown

Or send it to this international analysis for GC-MS testing.

I also highly recommend you to extract your own DMT if you plan on use it more. That's the best way to know you have something correctly identified and of quality. It's easy and can be done with food-safe ingredients. Check our Extraction Teks wiki and FAQ. Also explanations regarding how to consume are linked in the FAQ.

 

[Perennialphil]

Sorry, I was answering your statement: "1. if there is DMT in there, there also has to be something else for it to be orally active"

So there would need to be an MAOI already mixed in there.
The problem is, I don't plan on doing DMT on a regular basis. It's really just on my list of things to try before I bite the bullet, or become too senile to really enjoy such trips.