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Vision farmer

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I have to say this forum is simply amazing! I have been reading through all the different experiences and information and I am cautiously excited to do my first MHRB extraction and enter Hyperspace. I want to thank all of you for the wealth of information that has been provided and I feel like I may finally find the answers I have been looking for all my life. Any advice is of course appreciated. I have been reading/researching psychedelia for awhile now and feel I am as ready as one can be for such a life changing experience.
 
Vision farmer said:
I feel like I may finally find the answers I have been looking for all my life. Any advice is of course appreciated..

advice #1: stop looking for answers, there are none. only more questions. do not try to be in the know....rather, be in the mystery. surrender everything that you "think". check in your left brain....your analytic, rational, sense-making mind at the door and you will simply BE everything you seek.

looking for answers is a sure-fire way to confound yourself. you already know everything....just allow DMT to flip the light switches back on for you. don't try to "hold the river", little brother. the only way you can ever "hold" a river is to simply place your open hand in it.

you are going to wake up now...we are ALL excited beyond words that another cell in the great planetary being has become aware self-aware. your awakening is a gift to not only yourself but to US ALL! you have found your community and support system as you go through this metamorphosis.

welcome home :)

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 
Yes very, and thank you.

From what I have read it would seem many of you prefer jimjam or red spice to the pure white DMT as it seems to be more friendly. What do you guys think I should go for at the start?

If I try for jimjam what tek should I use? I would like to try to stay foodsafe if at all possible until I am more comfortable with the process. I am by no means a chemist.
 
By jimjam do you mean jungle spice? If so then its really all about preference or mood...swim likes both together, the experience seems 'fuller' slightly more visual and lasts a little longer than pure white. In swim's experience, he has never had 'red' spice by itself, only dark waxy yellow to pure fluffy white. Swiy should go with a STB tek like the lazyman tek or nomans tek, they are both as easy as making a cake and only require lye and naptha which are cheap and easy to find at a small hardware store. I wouldn't recommend an A/B extraction if you are inexperienced, swim remembers the first time he tried to extract was with an a/b and screwed it up. Also hydrochloric acid isn't fun to work with. lye really isn't either but at least it comes in a dry form so its easier to measure without accidents. always keep some vinegar handy though in case water + lye + skin happens.

Basically if you want super white, freeze precipitate, if you want yellow, evaporate. the whiter spice is smoother on the lungs but the yellower spice has other impurities which (i believe) contain some jungle spice if you use mhrb. Swim has never done a tek for specifically extracting jungle spice though.

I'd also like to second antrocles. Very good point, something that took me a while to learn is that there really are no answers, like a fractal the deeper you go to define the line the more twists and turns arise to infinity. Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes by Ken Kesey-

“The answer is never the answer. What's really interesting is the mystery. If you seek the mystery instead of the answer, you'll always be seeking. I've never seen anybody really find the answer -- they think they have, so they stop thinking. But the job is to seek mystery, evoke mystery, plant a garden in which strange plants grow and mysteries bloom. The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer.”
 
Vision farmer said:
Yes very, and thank you.

From what I have read it would seem many of you prefer jimjam or red spice to the pure white DMT as it seems to be more friendly. What do you guys think I should go for at the start?

If I try for jimjam what tek should I use? I would like to try to stay foodsafe if at all possible until I am more comfortable with the process. I am by no means a chemist.
You are about to experience the collective consciousness, in a way that can't be accurately described in words. You might experience the realization (among so many other things), that our bodies are merely vessels (or cells as antrocles put it) containing nano-bits of the collective consciousness and allow it to interact with the physical world. OR, you may not. ;)
Check out q21q21's tek: Q21Q21 Vinegar + Lime A/B/A (xylene/limonene) and A/B (naptha) Teks - A/B - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

This is an A/B tek, but it is food grade, save for the naptha, which will completely evap away. It's kind of a food safe version of the Lazyman's tek. SWIM told me it works very well, and is very straight forward.

Welcome Vision farmer (love the name)! Can't wait to hear back from you!

Peace!
-idt
 
Vision farmer said:
I have to say this forum is simply amazing! I have been reading through all the different experiences and information and I am cautiously excited to do my first MHRB extraction and enter Hyperspace. I want to thank all of you for the wealth of information that has been provided and I feel like I may finally find the answers I have been looking for all my life. Any advice is of course appreciated. I have been reading/researching psychedelia for awhile now and feel I am as ready as one can be for such a life changing experience.

SWIM did his first extractions over the weekend. SWIM is no chemist, but he enjoyed chemistry in college and had a "knack" for it.
He followed Vovin's TEK and will not do it again, or any other STB. The crystals he got were pure white and vape great. The issue was the huge amounts of lye. Dealing with 3L of pH 13 SodiumHydroxide solution was scary as hell for him (did a large extraction). If a jar broke, he had a gallon of lye/mimosa soup he had to somehow neutralize and clean up. Difficult.

He will attempt Marsofold's A/B tek next. Vinegar for the acid and 1 pint of lye solution. Much less scary.

The other food safe teks are also options but Marsofold's seems very simple and foolproof. Not to mentioned well-tested.
 
antrocles put it very well...

While true DMT teaches you a lot, it leaves you with more mysteries than anything else.
 
antrocles said:
advice #1: stop looking for answers, there are none. only more questions. do not try to be in the know....rather, be in the mystery. surrender everything that you "think". check in your left brain....your analytic, rational, sense-making mind at the door and you will simply BE everything you seek.

looking for answers is a sure-fire way to confound yourself. you already know everything....just allow DMT to flip the light switches back on for you. don't try to "hold the river", little brother. the only way you can ever "hold" a river is to simply place your open hand in it.

you are going to wake up now...we are ALL excited beyond words that another cell in the great planetary being has become aware self-aware. your awakening is a gift to not only yourself but to US ALL! you have found your community and support system as you go through this metamorphosis.

welcome home :)

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!

wow dude congrats :) i would never write it so gud. as Antrocles explaind its like that.. surrender and let the spice show u the way.

About red spice, i have never smoked red spice, but its true that orange-yellow spice has a lot more earthly and smooth trip considered to pure one. But i noticed for open eye visuals white spice is better. However first times you will want to close your eyes while tripping i dont know why but everyone i have seen went throught that way considering myself.

When you smoke dmt for some time you wil pass from the same path most of us did. First weeks are Honeymoon phase; you will want to smoke it everyday and few times a day. Then you will stop and will be waiting for the spice to call you for the right time; which can be once in 15 days up to 2 months i think.

While goin through this phases you will notice the medicinal value of spice on your soul. You will have a better personality with more artistic vision. Spice basically heals your soul. And DMT trips are not like LSD trips, they are mostly related with yourself and your own spirituality. While LSD is mostly related about nature around you.

You have to experience to understand the DMT. Its nice to see u here with us. Peace!
 
I have been looking over q21q21's tek: http://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=8785
and I think I will try this one first. I plan on ordering 400 grams of MHRB so I will do the first extraction with 100 grams and see how it goes, Im just not comfortable with using lye at this time.

Thanks to all of you for all the support and knowledge sharing.

Little off topic but have any of you read the Akashic Records by Linda Howe?

Thinking of checking it out.
 
Hey, Vision Farmer, I just did my first extraction using lye. I'll admit after my initial readings on the chemical I was very intimidated by it. However after using lye I realize that if you have the proper respect and safety precautions in order, it can be a very safe thing to use.

Also a little off topic but it appears from your avatar that you're familiar with the flower of life...
 
Yes, I am familiar with it. I have read a fair amount on sacred geometry and the energy grid theory and its relation to ancient sites around the globe. Its my belief that the ancients were shown this knowledge by the plants and somehow used the energy at those locations to better focus there brain waves to alter/help them better control/focus themselves in "Hyperspace". But thats just a wild guess from very limited knowlege.
 
Jeeeeeez I just wrote a whole post and my comp froze and ate it into the abyss of technology errors so here's my shortened version. My extraction advise is do reasearch and more research and when you think you are done do some more. I really thought I did enough research and my friend is typically pretty good at these kinds of things and he had no success three times in a row and on the last he had a very fatty residuey crystalish things tht only made him zoney. So do small scale extractions first and expirement with dif. Things.

Advice for hyperspace is take some deep breathes and read lots of reports. I would read like two reports a day i was so excited for my first journey. I did it over some cannbus in a bowl and first lit the lighter over it to melt it then went in for the kill and torched the now tarry looking cannabis. I was In my room with my best friend. You can rea the whole report in my intro essay in the nursery section. It's called "I really wanna be a member. Please?"

And also some one reccomended the q1...... A/b tek when I asked for my first advice so lemme know how that goes or if u find anything suuuuper important on it. Good luck and ya it's everything u can think it could be. If that makes any sense.
 
Also I forgot to say how much that quote about god hit me. I've been leaning towards that conclusion but haven't been quite able to put my finger on it and now I have something that makes complete sense to get me started. Ha thanks!
 
idtravlr said:
You are about to experience the collective consciousness, in a way that can't be accurately described in words

Well, its not a one dose thing... after a nearly a year I for the first time merged with the greater mind, answered my deepest question, and experienced the collective conciousness. And it was nothing like I expected.

And now it keeps smiling back to me through other people, its like lights on a christmas tree now seeing other people who were IT.
My gates of empathy poped off the hinge and I now have to steel myslef, as even a musical note played too sincerely can bring me a tear.
 
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