Ah well put, I love it, this is exactly where the tension exists between constructivist and positivist views. So maybe the question is how much of our perceived reality is phenomenological versus objective.Which is funny, because we as creatures seem to often mistake this.
I think there's a difference between language affecting reality and language affecting the phenomenology of what may be reality.
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I’m not to well versed in the ideas of Goethe, but I think you could say that he’s right in between the positivist and constructionist approach.This starts to bump into Goethe's "scientific" (though I would be more inclined to say phenomenological) discourse.
In short: the Real may be unrepresentable.
Ah well put, I love it, this is exactly where the tension exists between constructivist and positivist views. So maybe the question is how much of our perceived reality is phenomenological versus objective.
I’m not to well versed in the ideas of Goethe, but I think you could say that he’s right in between the positivist and constructionist approach.
Really nice, if I have a bit of time I’ll read up on Goethe, thanks for that.
May be a bit semantic but I would say the "real" may be only representable, as opposed to unrepresentable, and not ever experiencable/perceivable directly.
The works of Henri Bortoft are the works I get most out of about Goethe's thinking if not already familiar with it. Though if you read German perhaps Goethe himself would be better.
Can you guys watch this, and have a think?
And references to $¢ientologi$t Keanu Reeves playing « The One » in 'The Matrix' in reaction to this topic should raise some red flags.
This is where it gets fun.Ah well put, I love it, this is exactly where the tension exists between constructivist and positivist views. So maybe the question is how much of our perceived reality is phenomenological versus objective.
Ironically they have auditory language to thank for their experience of "real" communication, because silent communication isn't very handy in most survival situations.While preparing for the movie, the lead actor Riz Ahmed was initiated in the deaf community. It’s pretty amazing to learn what the actor took away from that experience: “There’s a saying in the deaf community that hearing people are emotionally repressed because we hide behind words. We use words to mask our true feelings.”
Later, he went on to state: “I learned sign language but I also learned what real communication is, what real listening is, from the deaf community. And I’m so grateful for that.” (That was from an interview with Colbert.)
And it's not words we use to mask our feelings, it's sounds (tone, timbre, inflection, volume, speed) that are used beneath the words we use to mask our feelings, imo. Deaf people when signing are still using words, just in a different format, and without the same kinds of potential embellishments.
Ironically, the bulk of my day has been and will continue to be in silence. Granted I'm reading text by interacting here.But the experiment may still be a valid one.
What happens when you consciously refrain from speaking, reading and writing for an extended period?
What happens if you do that together in community?
I don't care who that was, the picture captured my attention. Nothing personal, i won't remember your alias tomorrow...
Oh, member is made a topic by these me-too users today: Fire, , Varallo, Voidmatrix and CommonConduit. 1 a "moderator", 1 already on my [ IGNORE ] list, plus 2 more now. M'Yep! That was a productive day indeed...
Next topic: hummm... Maybe i remember later!
Bad move, must be the fault of permanent ADHD again.
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So a total newbie comes around whi complains about his vilification & abuse of a most precious gift from dame Nature, somehow supposed to heal him from « living in heaven » and now blaming it in a « therapy » forum dedicated to « trauma »... Signed "The King" in indonesian language, e.g. from a country where possession is punishable by 4 to 12 years of imprisonment!
Just in time for Christmass! Hummm... I see.
IMHO there should be restrictions put on fresh-new subscriptions, like a probation period to prevent instant gratification.
M'well. Strange decisions indeed, but don't expect me to fall for it even a micro-second!
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