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[Pyramids]

nice. sounds like a plan.

I am recalling several experiences I had on traditional ayahuasca brews when i drank jurema wine about an hour into the trip...choking down the astringent tannins that would then wreck my gut...haha. It was always a powerful experience but the possibility of eliminating some of the physical wear and tear is exciting.

Yes, I think both have their place. Also, jurema was not traditionally drank (AFAIK "vinho da jurema" is a later development and drank on its own, not aya), nor were the other DMT-containing barks. Caapi and the leafs (chacruna, chalipanga) still have tannins, but to a much lesser degree than MHRB. With the later you can feel your mouth "dry" as soon as it touches it.

my understanding is that jurema wine has been used for centuries in Brazil and adjacent locales.
I am part of a more traditional leaning ayahuasca group that uses the jurema as an optional boost to dial up the dmt. It's quite an amazing combination, actually.

 

[blig-blug]

my understanding is that jurema wine has been used for centuries in Brazil and adjacent locales.

It could be centuries without it being too old, in the context of other practices. Not that it means anything negative, if that's the case. My point was that it's not usually brewed like typical aya brews, jurema wines tend to be either CWEs or tinctures, and I think that's likely to be due to its higher tannin content.

I've experimented with MHRB brewed in the style of caapi and it's very difficult to not get an end result with a very high amount of tannins. Even if it looks transparent, tannins keep decanting over time. It's quite harsh. When I've tried a cold water extraction it has been much better in that sense, and I imagine a tincture would be better as well. TnT is just excellent in its ability to remove tannins while not removing other actives.

 

[Pyramids]

It could be centuries without it being too old, in the context of other practices. Not that it means anything negative, if that's the case. My point was that it's not usually brewed like typical aya brews, jurema wines tend to be either CWEs or tinctures, and I think that's likely to be due to its higher tannin content.

I've experimented with MHRB brewed in the style of caapi and it's very difficult to not get an end result with a very high amount of tannins. Even if it looks transparent, tannins keep decanting over time. It's quite harsh. When I've tried a cold water extraction it has been much better in that sense, and I imagine a tincture would be better as well. TnT is just excellent in its ability to remove tannins while not removing other actives.

very cool, i am extremely excited to be honest. the physical impact of some of these things can be a bit of a bottleneck for travel.

 

[Pyramids]

@blig-blug you had mentioned that after stirring in a sufficient amount of calcium hydroxide it would turn transparent yellow. Celly mentioned in their post that after putting in the calcium hydroxide it turned black... Guessing that is just a difference in the amount of lime used?

The liquid looked like wine. I put it in a big (food safe) plastic jug and mixed in calcium hydroxide and it got black.

 

[blig-blug]

@blig-blug you had mentioned that after stirring in a sufficient amount of calcium hydroxide it would turn transparent yellow. Celly mentioned in their post that after putting in the calcium hydroxide it turned black... Guessing that is just a difference in the amount of lime used?

It initially will look even darker (it will be quite dark already). It's not that it immediately turns yellow with the calcium hydroxide, but that when you have added enough calcium hydroxide, if you let it decant you'll start seeing a top layer grow that is transparent yellow. If you then let it fully decant, it will look transparent yellow.

So the lime step makes it go from very dark red to clear yellow once enough lime has been added and stirred, but you need to let it decant to see that change. That's because the tannins are what gives it that reddish-black color. Calcium hydroxide reacts with them to form calcium tannate, they become insoluble, and precipitate to the bottom of the jar.

 

[Celly]

@Celly had success leaving it in the fridge for several days but, again, I don't see the point in cooling it down.

Honestly I just did it because it was a practical place to store it. I left the jar at room temperature the last 24 hours before using the hydroxide and filtering though.

@blig-blug you had mentioned that after stirring in a sufficient amount of calcium hydroxide it would turn transparent yellow. Celly mentioned in their post that after putting in the calcium hydroxide it turned black... Guessing that is just a difference in the amount of lime used?

I actually made a change to the method because I had so much trouble neatly separating the yellow part etc
Here is what I got after slowly stirring and letting it decant etc and I had trouble taking only the upper layer.

So I tried putting everything in a filter and noticed that since the hydroxide would clog the filter everything else was forced to go through it and the resulting liquid was much paler.

So I did a multistep filtering with increasingly small filters but always at least a bit of hydroxide mixed in the liquid beforehand (very little for the last step).



And here was the result :


The liquid wasn't just very clear but also liquid like water. I began with 700ml of vodka and 70gr of MHRB, got around 350ml of liquid after filtration and reduced it in the end to 60ml of liquid. It was still so perfectly liquid that I could have reduced it by half again. It smelled very strongly of DMT.
Took 15ml the first time because I expected some yield loss and that it would be the same as a normal potion with 10 to 12gr (my usual). Aya made me throw up very fast telling me I took too much. Next time I took 10ml and it was perfect. So basically there is no yield loss.
(I know I take unusually big doses, that's just me, not saying that's a regular dose for other people).

So basically you can either let it precipitate and take the upper layer etc, or you can mix and filter. Both work fine, it's all down to your preference and what tools are easier for you (I have a ton of filters and I'm very used to filtering herbal stuff).

Thanks for tagging me and reminding me I still hadn't posted about my preparation ! I had the photos ready for months but completely forgot.

 

[Transform]

@Celly - here's a personal note of thanks for participating in the experimental development and sharing your results and experiences

One day this will all get funnelled off into a coherent thread of its own

 

[Pyramids]

It initially will look even darker (it will be quite dark already). It's not that it immediately turns yellow with the calcium hydroxide, but that when you have added enough calcium hydroxide, if you let it decant you'll start seeing a top layer grow that is transparent yellow. If you then let it fully decant, it will look transparent yellow.

So the lime step makes it go from very dark red to clear yellow once enough lime has been added and stirred, but you need to let it decant to see that change. That's because the tannins are what gives it that reddish-black color. Calcium hydroxide reacts with them to form calcium tannate, they become insoluble, and precipitate to the bottom of the jar.

Cool! Appreciate the teaching, it all makes sense. In case it's any value to you, I am reading and very much enjoying DMT Dialogues if you are into that kind of thing check it out, a lot of interesting minds.

 

[Transform]

It initially will look even darker (it will be quite dark already). It's not that it immediately turns yellow with the calcium hydroxide, but that when you have added enough calcium hydroxide, if you let it decant you'll start seeing a top layer grow that is transparent yellow. If you then let it fully decant, it will look transparent yellow.

So the lime step makes it go from very dark red to clear yellow once enough lime has been added and stirred, but you need to let it decant to see that change. That's because the tannins are what gives it that reddish-black color. Calcium hydroxide reacts with them to form calcium tannate, they become insoluble, and precipitate to the bottom of the jar.

Right, and it's good to show patience with this as, imo, the goal is to add the absolute minimum necessary amount of lime to get the vast majority of the tannins out of solution. Any more than that and the remaining supernatant starts to get excessively alkaline - DMT freebase makes the liquid basic enough without having masses of (slightly soluble) calcium hydroxide floating around in it as well.

Excess lime also increases the amount of solids from which the liquid needs to be separated, and thereby also the mechanical losses from trapped solvent.

 

[Pyramids]

Honestly I just did it because it was a practical place to store it. I left the jar at room temperature the last 24 hours before using the hydroxide and filtering though.



I actually made a change to the method because I had so much trouble neatly separating the yellow part etc
Here is what I got after slowly stirring and letting it decant etc and I had trouble taking only the upper layer.
View attachment 108714
So I tried putting everything in a filter and noticed that since the hydroxide would clog the filter everything else was forced to go through it and the resulting liquid was much paler.

So I did a multistep filtering with increasingly small filters but always at least a bit of hydroxide mixed in the liquid beforehand (very little for the last step).

View attachment 108715

And here was the result :
View attachment 108716

The liquid wasn't just very clear but also liquid like water. I began with 700ml of vodka and 70gr of MHRB, got around 350ml of liquid after filtration and reduced it in the end to 60ml of liquid. It was still so perfectly liquid that I could have reduced it by half again. It smelled very strongly of DMT.
Took 15ml the first time because I expected some yield loss and that it would be the same as a normal potion with 10 to 12gr (my usual). Aya made me throw up very fast telling me I took too much. Next time I took 10ml and it was perfect. So basically there is no yield loss.
(I know I take unusually big doses, that's just me, not saying that's a regular dose for other people).

So basically you can either let it precipitate and take the upper layer etc, or you can mix and filter. Both work fine, it's all down to your preference and what tools are easier for you (I have a ton of filters and I'm very used to filtering herbal stuff).

Thanks for tagging me and reminding me I still hadn't posted about my preparation ! I had the photos ready for months but completely forgot.

Very helpful! Appreciate you taking the time, Celly. Any idea what amount(s) of calcium hydroxide you were using?

 

[blig-blug]

I am reading and very much enjoying DMT Dialogues if you are into that kind of thing check it out, a lot of interesting minds.

Thanks, I didn't know about that one. Maybe you could post about it on this thread so other people interested can see it: Book bin

Right, and it's good to show patience with this as, imo, the goal is to add the absolute minimum necessary amount of lime to get the vast majority of the tannins out of solution.

From what I've seen, the best seems to be to add the lime in very small increments and stir very well between additions. I may have added more lime than needed in the past as I didn't think it would be a problem, so I'll be careful to add the minimum needed to make it transparent for the next time.

 

[Transform]

Scanning down a bit and noticing this thread:

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Thread 'Video and easy-to-follow guide for Ayahuasca Analog extraction (beginner friendly)'

Jan 2, 2026

Hi Friends,

Not sure if this is the ideal place to post this, but here is a detailed and easy-to-follow tutorial video and corresponding document for preparation of Analog Ayahuasca tea and extracts. It's inspired by many of the TEKs on here. It's not necessarily inventing anything new, but aimed at putting many of the best practices in a more accessible and detailed format.

If you find this useful, perhaps it could be recommended to the moderators to include this in the main dmt-nexus list of TEKs, or wherever else seekers are looking for this kind of information

VIDEO (Mirrors)...

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it seems worthwhile to put the idea out there that ACRB, or any of the other DMT-active acacia barks, would also make a suitable substrate for further experimentation with the TnT method.

Serious note of caution: some of the more obscure acacias might contain cyanogenic glycosides. Lime treatment will not remove cyanide from the tincture. Do your homework and avoid poisoning yourselves!

 

[Transform]

One further footnote, at some point it will be worth testing other (insoluble) bases like calcium carbonate, and the oxide, hydroxide and carbonates of magnesium - maybe even lithium carbonate - for their utility in the TnT tannin-stripping process.

Initial trials should always be at test tube scale (since that's literally why they're called test tubes, to state the obvious).

[EDIT]: sonication would be a great way of speeding up the initial tincturing process as well.

 

[Pyramids]

I recall reading somewhere on here that someone had sent the TNT results to a lab for a breakdown, likely blig-blug or Transform, but i didn't see the post with the results....

 

[blig-blug]

I recall reading somewhere on here that someone had sent the TNT results to a lab for a breakdown, likely blig-blug or Transform, but i didn't see the post with the results....

Yes, I have. I'm still waiting for the full results, as it's pending GC-MS because the lab needs their machine fixed. Once I have the full test results, I will post them publicly.