"':;*Into the sleep state*;:"'

[JungleGhost]

So for couple years now I haven't been getting more than 4 hrs. Sleep at a time. Wake up crying, cold sweats, lots of issues staying asleep. My dreams are never good anymore. I got off of rx medication that made me sleep because it wasn't restful sleep anyways.

Now considering non prescription things to assist the sandman... Maybe lucid dreaming botanicals to help push me through these trauma induced nightmares and feelings. Anyone have experience with anything like this?

 

[TheGreenPhantom]

Can't give advice on calea zacetechichi or anything... but, if you're looking to sleep... Melatonin has always worked for me. I only need half a 1mg pill to fall asleep; more than that and I feel hung over the next day.

Weed also helps. I had a buddy who was a combat vet who used it to blunt his nightmares.

I've also found full spectrum extracts of acacia rb or phyllodes to be quite somatic: couchlock on steroids, basically.

 

[JungleGhost]

Think I will gather a blend to make as a sleeping tea from some things that have worked for me in the past :
chamomile,valerian,lavender,passionflower,lemon balm,blue lotus, etc.

 

[universecannon]

There's a the number of factors. General lifestyle changes can of course help a lot, especially after building consistency (healthy diet, exercise, plenty of water, time in nature, less screen time etc)

Yoga and meditation right before bed seems to have a significant impact on dreams for me

One of the biggest factors would be a dream journal. Write down or type or voice to text every detail you can remember upon awakening. This will quickly build both dream awareness/lucidity and recall, ideally helping shift them into more pleasant terrain. It's like a muscle in a lot of ways.

I find melatonin works well for good sleep and dreams and there is data showing it doesn't decrease endogenous production if you stop. That said I should note I usually take way more than recommended, in pure bulk form, as I think we are chronically deficient. And perhaps cannabis and harmalas. But YMMV with all these things. I've tried some dream herbs in the past with mixed results. It was over 15 years ago so I can't recall the details.

The sleepy tea sounds like a good approach

 

[1Starway7]

So for couple years now I haven't been getting more than 4 hrs. Sleep at a time. Wake up crying, cold sweats, lots of issues staying asleep. My dreams are never good anymore. I got off of rx medication that made me sleep because it wasn't restful sleep anyways.

Now considering non prescription things to assist the sandman... Maybe lucid dreaming botanicals to help push me through these trauma induced nightmares and feelings. Anyone have experience with anything like this?

Its been proven with many people ...that if you put on some comfortable warm sox ....then go to bed you will sleep better and longer!
this may not work for everyone but it has worked for many many people!

 

[JungleGhost]

There's a the number of factors. General lifestyle changes can of course help a lot, especially after building consistency (healthy diet, exercise, plenty of water, time in nature, less screen time etc)

Yoga and meditation right before bed seems to have a significant impact on dreams for me

One of the biggest factors would be a dream journal. Write down or type or voice to text every detail you can remember upon awakening. This will quickly build both dream awareness/lucidity and recall, ideally helping shift them into more pleasant terrain. It's like a muscle in a lot of ways.

I find melatonin works well for good sleep and dreams and there is data showing it doesn't decrease endogenous production if you stop. That said I should note I usually take way more than recommended, in pure bulk form, as I think we are chronically deficient. And perhaps cannabis and harmalas. But YMMV with all these things. I've tried some dream herbs in the past with mixed results. It was over 15 years ago so I can't recall the details.

The sleepy tea sounds like a good approach

I've yet to really experiment with any harmalas, I think... Where would you you recommend begining with such things?

 

[universecannon]

I've yet to really experiment with any harmalas, I think... Where would you you recommend begining with such things?

There is a lot of good info throughout the nexus on the topic so make sure to take a look. Syrian rue tea and/or you can extract the harmalas from rue.

 

[Jamie01]

Waking up in cold sweats is cause for concern unless your actively detoxing from sleep meds etc. See a doctor if you have not already and it’s an ongoing issue. I have had the same problem for 20 years but in this case it’s related to my immune system. In some cases it can be a sign of something more serious like cancer..or not but it’s good to be safe.

 

[Varallo]

Waking up in cold sweats is cause for concern unless your actively detoxing from sleep meds etc. See a doctor if you have not already and it’s an ongoing issue. I have had the same problem for 20 years but in this case it’s related to my immune system. In some cases it can be a sign of something more serious like cancer..or not but it’s good to be safe.

I second this. It’s not just the night sweats, but also that this is probably not something you can fix with simple home remedies. Especially looking at the pattern, it makes me think it might be linked to anxiety, stress or unhappiness, ( I’m filling these in and I’m not sure if it’s something that is really true for you). These are symptoms that really shouldn’t be taken lightly, and I don’t think this will improve on its own without seeing a sleep specialist.

Of course, I understand you’ve tried sleep medication in the past, and that’s not an easy route either, it can feel like a slippery slope. But still, I would really encourage you to talk to a doctor. They might be able to refer you to a sleep clinic. I know people who’ve also struggled with sleep for long periods, and they found it incredibly helpful to get assessed at a clinic to really understand what’s going on.

Besides that, there are lifestyle things you can do, healthy eating, minimizing stress, avoiding alcohol and drugs, keeping an sleep diary etc. but I’m sure you’re already doing most of that. In any case, I really wish you strength and all the best. It sounds incredibly tough.

 

[ommani]

I've been finding reishi during the day (namely, dried mushrooms added to my tea) to support healthy sleep patterns. Low dose amanita, taken at night (also in tea, strained or unstrained) can be an effective sleep aid, in my experience.