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Is it possible to vaporize b. caapi powder & get effect?

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stonerpreneur

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I have a vapor genie and was wondering if that would even make the DMT available & can't seem to find answers on the web. One sketchy looking site made me believe I could, but I figured one of you all might know. Just got 16oz of this *stuff*! (Powdered b caapi vine!) Thank you much in advance for your tips/advice/help!!
 
endlessness said:
please read more, take a few weeks of reading the nexus and the internet, because thats a really really basic question :)
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Banisteriopsis caapi contains the harmala-alkaloids harmine, harmaline and tetrahydroharmine (THH). Together with a DMT source such as Psychotria viridis they form the constituents of the brew Ayahuasca. As DMT is rapidly broken down by an enzyme called MAO, you must take an inhibitor of MAO such as the harmala-alkaloids for DMT to be active by oral ingestion.

The harmala-alkaloids are active psychedelics by themselves too, so in theory you can smoke or vaporize B. caapi powder and get some (but no profound) effect, but that is by no means a good way to ingest it. I would suggest you buy some Psychotria viridis or other DMT source and brew some Ayahuasca, or you may drink Ayahuasca without a DMT source. Caapi only tea is actually a very healing and sometimes blissful experience.
 
endlessness said:
there's no dmt in caapi

please read more, take a few weeks of reading the nexus and the internet, because thats a really really basic question :)
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Thank you so much for your response. I knew it was going to be a dumb question, but hey, better ask a dumb question then waste a bunch of lovely plant material only to find out it doesn't work. :)
 
Evening Glory said:
endlessness said:
please read more, take a few weeks of reading the nexus and the internet, because thats a really really basic question :)
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^ :!:

Banisteriopsis caapi contains the harmala-alkaloids harmine, harmaline and tetrahydroharmine (THH). Together with a DMT source such as Psychotria viridis they form the constituents of the brew Ayahuasca. As DMT is rapidly broken down by an enzyme called MAO, you must take an inhibitor of MAO such as the harmala-alkaloids for DMT to be active by oral ingestion.

The harmala-alkaloids are active psychedelics by themselves too, so in theory you can smoke or vaporize B. caapi powder and get some (but no profound) effect, but that is by no means a good way to ingest it. I would suggest you buy some Psychotria viridis or other DMT source and brew some Ayahuasca, or you may drink Ayahuasca without a DMT source. Caapi only tea is actually a very healing and sometimes blissful experience.
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I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this for me. I have been jumping around from post to post trying to synthesize & process all the info I was receiving yet still couldn't figure out exactly how it all works. This clears it up & I will be taking your advice. Really, I can't thank you enough for pointing me in the right direction.
 
Evening Glory said:
endlessness said:
please read more, take a few weeks of reading the nexus and the internet, because thats a really really basic question :)
Click to expand...
^ :!:

Banisteriopsis caapi contains the harmala-alkaloids harmine, harmaline and tetrahydroharmine (THH). Together with a DMT source such as Psychotria viridis they form the constituents of the brew Ayahuasca. As DMT is rapidly broken down by an enzyme called MAO, you must take an inhibitor of MAO such as the harmala-alkaloids for DMT to be active by oral ingestion.

The harmala-alkaloids are active psychedelics by themselves too, so in theory you can smoke or vaporize B. caapi powder and get some (but no profound) effect, but that is by no means a good way to ingest it. I would suggest you buy some Psychotria viridis or other DMT source and brew some Ayahuasca, or you may drink Ayahuasca without a DMT source. Caapi only tea is actually a very healing and sometimes blissful experience.
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Just one follow up question, it's the chacruna or psychotria viridis *leaves* and not vine or root that I want, correct? To make a brew w/b. caapi?
 
If I were to pack a dmt plant agent (chacruna/mimosa hostilis/chaliponga/whatever) and an maoi one (pega whatever or b caapi) in a bowl together in my vapor genie(maoi + dmt), would this work? I really wouldn't want to spend the hours making the brew in my parents' kitchen unless absolutely necessary!
 
Ayahuasca (brewed caapi+chacruna) is for oral ingestion. If you want something to vape, order some mimosa rootbark and perform one of the extraction teks in the Nexus wiki in order to obtain freebase DMT, which you can then vape. I don't know if you can inhale DMT via vaping just the plant material, and even if you could, you would NOT be getting enough DMT to have any significant effect.

And really read around more. This stuff is basic... it'd be tons faster to USE TEH_GOOGLE.
 
stonerpreneur said:
I really wouldn't want to spend the hours making the brew in my parents' kitchen unless absolutely necessary!
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No, dont do that unless they are cool with you brewing up in their kitchen. Best is to wait till you have a place of your own.
 
BananaForeskin said:
Ayahuasca (brewed caapi+chacruna) is for oral ingestion. If you want something to vape, order some mimosa rootbark and perform one of the extraction teks in the Nexus wiki in order to obtain freebase DMT, which you can then vape. I don't know if you can inhale DMT via vaping just the plant material, and even if you could, you would NOT be getting enough DMT to have any significant effect.

And really read around more. This stuff is basic... it'd be tons faster to USE TEH_GOOGLE.
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Sorry, I am super lazy and find it a lot easier to ask then spend hours searching, most of which time I am getting distracted by other things on my computer. (I am working on my lengthening my attention span. In fact, that is one of the reasons I have chosen to look into ayahuasca- in order to potentially face the demons that have perpetuated my procrastinatory, ADHD-reinforcing behaviors.)

Besides, I answer other people's basic questions all the time (though not yet on this forum) because I get satisfaction from pointing people in the right direction, so I figured I'd offer you fine people the same opportunity. lol :)
 
I see where you are coming from, but you got to understand that the DMT-Nexus is not "just another forum". We take great pride in saying that we probably are the best forum devoted to entheogens. Perhaps one of the best forums no matter subject. That means that every member will have to offer something right from the start - a good tone, good questions and new developments.

Asking questions that has been answered several times before will not do this forum any good. It only helps in burying the great threads deeper down in the archive. As such, this type of behavior is viewed dimly. You seem like a great person with the heart and mind in right place, but please, if you want to be a part of this forum, we ask you to research these very basic questions before continue with your posting.

All the best! And please, don't take any offense, as none was intended.

PS: Google search for our forum can be done like this:
Code: 
inurl:dmt-nexus.me ayahuasca
 
Evening Glory said:
I see where you are coming from, but you got to understand that the DMT-Nexus is not "just another forum". We take great pride in saying that we probably are the best forum devoted to entheogens. Perhaps one of the best forums no matter subject. That means that every member will have to offer something right from the start - a good tone, good questions and new developments.

Asking questions that has been answered several times before will not do this forum any good. It only helps in burying the great threads deeper down in the archive. As such, this type of behavior is viewed dimly. You seem like a great person with the heart and mind in right place, but please, if you want to be a part of this forum, we ask you to research these very basic questions before asking them.

All the best! And please, don't take any offense, as none was intended.
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No offense taken at all and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this to me. I actually had no idea that this was a more esoteric community with higher standards and have definitely not been posting with this consideration in mind. Hopefully I will prove that I am worthy of member-status after I have my first related experience involving the namesake of this forum. (Up until this point, I have only tried other entheogens, which perhaps I shall post about, in order to provide value to this community, which has definitely done provided value for me.)

I apologize for having taken the privilege to access this forum's experienced & informed users for granted, and would like to once again emphasize my appreciation for all advice thus far received.
 
gammagore said:
stonerpreneur said:
I really wouldn't want to spend the hours making the brew in my parents' kitchen unless absolutely necessary!
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No, dont do that unless they are cool with you brewing up in their kitchen. Best is to wait till you have a place of your own.
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Keep in mind that PV (chacruna) vapors are quite strong. Both my wife and I felt like vomiting after 8 hours of cooking Aya in our small appartment. Definitely not something your parents would approve unless they are OK with you doing that or you have the place all to yoruself for a day.
 
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