@northape do you avoid drinking close to the experience and/or during it? If so, how long before do you stop drinking? I've realized I tend to drink close to it to not be dehydrated, but maybe I shouldn't.
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Is it safe to do a small dose of Rue seeds and Acacia powder by myself , without a sitter ???
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I am not drinking a few hours before to skip excessive bathroom visits. During the experience, I usually drink a highly concentrated common sage tea.
It gives me extra energy and soothes my throat because I sing quite a lot during the ceremony. I am not really thirsty throughout, and you do not want too much liquid next to harmalas. Staying hydrated days before your session helps. Hot water with bicarbonate somehow regulates hydration, but that is anecdotal.
Thanks @northape ! Yes , i guess my batch isn't that potent ... I might try 35 , 40 g i guess since i've done 20 without effect ...
On the other side , i'm not going through an easy time of my life at the moment , i'm just wondering if it's the right time ? What do you think ?
It might just be the right time indeed because i'm postponing important things for a couple of years due to all the traumas i carry along for so much time ...
On the other side , i'm not going through an easy time of my life at the moment , i'm just wondering if it's the right time ? What do you think ?
It might just be the right time indeed because i'm postponing important things for a couple of years due to all the traumas i carry along for so much time ...
Chacruna is good for these kinds of problems. Unlike other dmt plants, she will not push you into hyperspace but will try to work with you on fixing your life. This plant is the closest to a fine mushroom trip where you reassess your life and come out refreshed and ready for change. Just create some alone time for your work with Chacruna and go slow. Even the general boost of vitality and mental powers is worth it, in my opinion.Thanks @northape ! Yes , i guess my batch isn't that potent ... I might try 35 , 40 g i guess since i've done 20 without effect ...
On the other side , i'm not going through an easy time of my life at the moment , i'm just wondering if it's the right time ? What do you think ?
It might just be the right time indeed because i'm postponing important things for a couple of years due to all that shit i carry along for so much time ...
Thanks a lot again @northape , Yes , i think it's probably the right time .
Even though i didn't "feel" much yet , i have the feeling that it did some "work" on me , i just feel that my traumas are sharper and i can see them much more from the outside !
I will do that in a week or so , you'll then have some rest from me !
Thank You !
Even though i didn't "feel" much yet , i have the feeling that it did some "work" on me , i just feel that my traumas are sharper and i can see them much more from the outside !
I will do that in a week or so , you'll then have some rest from me !
Thank You !
I am going to rest for two weeks from all the work myself. Just cook it the way I previously described (30ml pH6 water/1g material, one hour hard boil, filter, reduce to 30-50ml, enjoy). Healing is never easy. The best time to start is always NOW. Be kind to yourself, and happy holidays!Thanks a lot again @northape , Yes , i think it's probably the right time .
Even though i didn't "feel" much yet , i have the feeling that it did some "work" on me , i just feel that my traumas are sharper and i can see them much more from the outside !
I will do that in a week or so , you'll then have some rest from me !
Thank You !
- I've done it yesterday and it worked fine 
That was a great experience , not too strong but not too weak either ...
I brewed and reduced 60 grams of Chacruna to get a 10 cl liquid , i first took 4 to 5 grams of Rue seeds and it hit me strong .
i then took half of the chacruna brew but no success so far , i then took the rest of the brew and had a joint of cannabis ...
It came out nicely , I've never really experienced something like that before even though it was a bit close to Psylocibin but not quite ...
I felt like i really learned a lot on myself and feel like it had a very positive effect on my psyche !
That's a great Medecine for sure !
i want to do it again soon but it seems like my batch isn't potent since i had to take 60 grams of Chacruna to be affected !
I've heard that Chaliponga leafs are stronger than Chacruna ?
Thank you , I feel very greateful about the Experience
That was a great experience , not too strong but not too weak either ...
I brewed and reduced 60 grams of Chacruna to get a 10 cl liquid , i first took 4 to 5 grams of Rue seeds and it hit me strong .
i then took half of the chacruna brew but no success so far , i then took the rest of the brew and had a joint of cannabis ...
It came out nicely , I've never really experienced something like that before even though it was a bit close to Psylocibin but not quite ...
I felt like i really learned a lot on myself and feel like it had a very positive effect on my psyche !
That's a great Medecine for sure !
i want to do it again soon but it seems like my batch isn't potent since i had to take 60 grams of Chacruna to be affected !
I've heard that Chaliponga leafs are stronger than Chacruna ?
Thank you , I feel very greateful about the Experience
Chaliponga is more potent but it is very different qualitatively. Psychological insight is not it's power like it is for Chacruna. It is somatic and wild.
I fully agree. Chaliponga is stronger, and the leaf that is sold in stores is more consistent, but it is wilder and certainly less psychological. That sense of well-being and relief that chacruna gives is hard to achieve with any other light medicine.
Congrats
Have you used a bit of acid during cooking? I see that it makes the tea stronger. Your batch may not be strong, but the spirit of chacruna is still there. It is a divine medicine.
All is fine. It is a journey of exploration, so just fine-tune it all until you get the best possible result and stick with it. How was a stronger dose of rue for you?Ha , I forgot the vinegar !
I will next time ...
Thanks @northape , I really enjoyed the Experience , i forgot a lot but i recall "observing" myself from the "outside" ...
You can make a tea from rue seeds and get a more seamless experience that way too. How would you compare chacruna to the mushrooms that you are more accustomed to?
I took 4 or 5 grams of Rue yesterday and it never hit that hard but that was still good ...
Well , from my first experience , i found Chacruna to have a more "outside" experience than Shrooms , a bit less hallucinogenic but kind of more profound ! it's hard to put my hands on it since that was my first time ; It actually lasted a few hours i guess but i fell assleep in the end ... i intend to do it again soon
I'll sure keep you updated !
I feel much more centered today
Thanks again a lot for the great advises
Well , from my first experience , i found Chacruna to have a more "outside" experience than Shrooms , a bit less hallucinogenic but kind of more profound ! it's hard to put my hands on it since that was my first time ; It actually lasted a few hours i guess but i fell assleep in the end ... i intend to do it again soon
I'll sure keep you updated !I feel much more centered today
Thanks again a lot for the great advises
It was too little maoi effect most likely. It could be that there was not enough dmt to keep you up and stimulated, too. Keep experimenting. With this combo, 6-8h sessions are the norm, ime.I took 4 or 5 grams of Rue yesterday and it never hit that hard but that was still good ...
Well , from my first experience , i found Chacruna to have a more "outside" experience than Shrooms , a bit less hallucinogenic but kind of more profound ! it's hard to put my hands on it since that was my first time ; It actually lasted a few hours i guess but i fell assleep in the end ... i intend to do it again soon
That's a good sign. You should feel centered and ready after a good experience.I feel much more centered today
May you find healingThanks again a lot for the great advises
A bit out of topic but ...
As i said earlier that Rue was blocking my psylocibin receptors , last night i had 30 grams of Truffles , that was strong but was expecting more visuals ...
After a couple of hours , i stood up and thought abt having Rue seeds to see if it was going to block my receptors , given the fact i already was on Psylo ?
I had 3 grams of Rue seeds and 15 minutes later it's been a blast ! I was out of this world and wandering across deep forests , big snakes in front of my eyes
It defenatly worked big time , i just have to take the Rue after i start to feel the Psylo effects ... @Transform It's very strong indeed !
I prepared a Chacruna brew and i didn't forget the white vinegar + C vitamin this time . I'm going to to have it for New Year's Eve i suppose ...
As i said earlier that Rue was blocking my psylocibin receptors , last night i had 30 grams of Truffles , that was strong but was expecting more visuals ...
After a couple of hours , i stood up and thought abt having Rue seeds to see if it was going to block my receptors , given the fact i already was on Psylo ?
I had 3 grams of Rue seeds and 15 minutes later it's been a blast ! I was out of this world and wandering across deep forests , big snakes in front of my eyes
It defenatly worked big time , i just have to take the Rue after i start to feel the Psylo effects ... @Transform It's very strong indeed !
I prepared a Chacruna brew and i didn't forget the white vinegar + C vitamin this time . I'm going to to have it for New Year's Eve i suppose ...
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Hi Guys ,
I had two new experiences with Chacruna and Rue seeds , last one was last night ...
I had about 5 grams of Rue and Chacruna brew ( 20 minutes later) equivalent to 40 grams of dried leafs ( not that potent so it seems ... )
I could defenatly feel something quite quickly after drinking the brew but had a heavy body load and i smoked some hash to get rid of it !
I went to bed and had a light experience even though it wasn't weak , i had big insights on the way i behaved with ppl all along my life so far , this wasn't fun and i felt guilty about it
I had some visuals too , it reminded me of Psylo trips and i had some "images" in my mind , eyes closed , i felt my heart beating fast as well .
Nevertheless , i know this wasn't the strenght i was supposed to feel !
I found threads on simple Ethanol extraction over here in the Nexus , i feel like doing it since it's supposed to be better against body load . i read it's better to use Acacia or Mimosa to make this kind of extract ...
I still have Chacruna left and i feel the need of taking more than i did so far , too bad i didn't have any left last night because i felt like taking more ( i was a bit scared to be overwhelmed by the experience in the first place )
Thanks .
PS : I enjoyed the experience and i feel more centered today and ready to do the things i've postponed for such a long time !
I had two new experiences with Chacruna and Rue seeds , last one was last night ...
I had about 5 grams of Rue and Chacruna brew ( 20 minutes later) equivalent to 40 grams of dried leafs ( not that potent so it seems ... )
I could defenatly feel something quite quickly after drinking the brew but had a heavy body load and i smoked some hash to get rid of it !
I went to bed and had a light experience even though it wasn't weak , i had big insights on the way i behaved with ppl all along my life so far , this wasn't fun and i felt guilty about it
I had some visuals too , it reminded me of Psylo trips and i had some "images" in my mind , eyes closed , i felt my heart beating fast as well .
Nevertheless , i know this wasn't the strenght i was supposed to feel !
I found threads on simple Ethanol extraction over here in the Nexus , i feel like doing it since it's supposed to be better against body load . i read it's better to use Acacia or Mimosa to make this kind of extract ...
I still have Chacruna left and i feel the need of taking more than i did so far , too bad i didn't have any left last night because i felt like taking more ( i was a bit scared to be overwhelmed by the experience in the first place )
Thanks .
PS : I enjoyed the experience and i feel more centered today and ready to do the things i've postponed for such a long time !
That is the beauty of chacruna - it is very wholesome. Very few DMT plants come close to its territory. I would consider some good wild mushrooms, like liberty caps, to be somewhere close in their medicinal effect. It is a different experience, but medicinal for sure. I am glad that your mushroom journey with rue was a success. You can burn it as incense, and it will influence your session even more.
Chacruna is actually quite safe even in high doses, but it is better to go slow. Consider it all as trying to create a connection with its spirit. Certainly cook more if you feel that your leaf is not strong enough. Body load is the price of admission with oral brews. You can do an egg-white filtration (let me know, and I will help with it) to help your digestion. Just cook 100g and you will have extra if needed.
Thanks @northape .
Yes , i feel it's a good thing to go slow , what i did in the first place ...
I'm happy with the smooth results so far and i feel some change in my attitude , i might do it again tonight !
I'll let you know about egg-white filtration ...
PS ; Yes , Rue after Psylo was such a success that i think i passed out quickly unfortunatly ! I was in the jungle with big snakes all around and then i woke up in the morning
Thanks for the advice on Chacruna , it feels safe indeed
Yes , i feel it's a good thing to go slow , what i did in the first place ...
I'm happy with the smooth results so far and i feel some change in my attitude , i might do it again tonight !
I'll let you know about egg-white filtration ...
PS ; Yes , Rue after Psylo was such a success that i think i passed out quickly unfortunatly ! I was in the jungle with big snakes all around and then i woke up in the morning
Thanks for the advice on Chacruna , it feels safe indeed
My last experience with Chacruna was good and especially afterward , i felt a sense of unity with the whole world and beyond , this lasted about 24 hours !
I'm really enjoying these experiences , i take more each time but even though i have the equivalent of 60 grams of Chacruna , my trips are rather smooth and light but agreeable .
It has something in common with Psylo but not as strong so far ... I feel something more of a half awakened and half dreamy experience , i feel like taking more next time , something like 100 grams of Chacruna would be my next go i assume ...
I have the feeling that DMT is a better healer than shrooms , the latter is very good against depression it seems but DMT goes beyond imo 
I'm really enjoying these experiences , i take more each time but even though i have the equivalent of 60 grams of Chacruna , my trips are rather smooth and light but agreeable .
It has something in common with Psylo but not as strong so far ... I feel something more of a half awakened and half dreamy experience , i feel like taking more next time , something like 100 grams of Chacruna would be my next go i assume ...
I have the feeling that DMT is a better healer than shrooms , the latter is very good against depression it seems but DMT goes beyond imo
Chacruna delivers. It is definitely less loopy compared to mushrooms. Ime, it is the best light source for oral brews.My last experience with Chacruna was good and especially afterward , i felt a sense of unity with the whole world and beyond , this lasted about 24 hours !
I'm really enjoying these experiences , i take more each time but even though i have the equivalent of 60 grams of Chacruna , my trips are rather smooth and light but agreeable .
It has something in common with Psylo but not as strong so far ... I feel something more of a half awakened and half dreamy experience , i feel like taking more next time , something like 100 grams of Chacruna would be my next go i assume ...
I have the feeling that DMT is a better healer than shrooms , the latter is very good against depression it seems but DMT goes beyond imo
That holistic feeling of balance and relaxation at the end is divine. I am glad your work is moving along.
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