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Is my friend ready for DMT?

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A Slice of Life

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Alright, so my friend smokes a lot of weed and has been extremely blazed before but has never done any psychedelics. My friend is thinking about doing a DMT extraction using Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark and the Marsofold's Tek method. Do you think he would be alright trying DMT without ever doing any other psychedelics? He isn't interested really in shrooms or acid, but is wanting the experience of DMT. If he goes into it very calm and relaxed with a clear head, do you think it will be okay?
 
A Slice of Life said:
Alright, so my friend smokes a lot of weed and has been extremely blazed before but has never done any psychedelics. My friend is thinking about doing a DMT extraction using Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark and the Marsofold's Tek method. Do you think he would be alright trying DMT without ever doing any other psychedelics? He isn't interested really in shrooms or acid, but is wanting the experience of DMT. If he goes into it very calm and relaxed with a clear head, do you think it will be okay?
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IMO he will be fine..Set and Setting are so important..
 
Thank you :) Would you recommend having someone with him the first time to he does it to make sure he's okay would he probably be fine totally alone? What would a good dose be for a first timer? 50mg? Also, would it be better in a dark setting?
 
I'm sure your friend will be just fine. Just make sure they know this is NOT mj and will be overwhelming and you must let go and surrender to it.
I've never understood why some people are so drawn to 1 thing, but repel others. Why dmt, but no interest in shrooms, cacti, etc. I can see avoiding LSD, being it is a synthesized chem. (even though it's sooo good!), but why the others?
 
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Thank you :) Would you recommend having someone with him the first time to he does it to make sure he's okay would he probably be fine totally alone? What would a good dose be for a first timer? 50mg? Also, would it be better in a dark setting?
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I only travel alone, in a semi darkened room. I find that whenever someone else is there I have a hard time "letting go".Just remember that breathing and heartbeat are in fact there...even if you cannot sense them.As for dose..I'd suggest 50mg...but some folks like to work up to that amount.
 
you're gonna get a lot of differing opinions on the best way to first experience spice....

my humble suggestion:

with a trusted companion traveler. have a .02 journey to have the spirit molecule introduction, this will calm the nerves and give him a good idea of what he's working with. go a little deeper each time over the course of an evening...

hold the space for one another but no need to try to "do" anything. your friend is more than likely going to want to discuss his experience with someone who can relate once he's back. having someone there to help process and to watch have his own journey....it's powerful...

light/dark is purely up to you....i personally love the sunlight- it makes my visuals so incredibly ehtereal and bright. MY occassional travel companion Uncle Knucles likes to use a sleep mask for complete darkness.....i prefer silence for my journeys NOW, but in the beginning i really enjoyed good soulful ambient background music (jocelyn pook's album "untold things" is awesome....).

taking the time to breath, focus on clear intent and clear mind......then light and surrender...

your friend is in good hands....but do, do, DO try and encourage him to become a part of the nexus and to write about his experience(s). he will find much love, support and information within these hallowed cyber-halls...

MUCH LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 
Hm, i think i would honestly do some other sort of psychedelic before DMT. For some one thats never tripped before jumping into DMT could be a bit overwhelming. I'm suprised no ones said this?

How many of the people posting here tried DMT before shrooms/acid/2c-?/cacti/mescaline?? I can bet my bottom dollar none of you :p
 
I have found another good way for a slower, easier introduction is to sprinkle some love crystals (about .03) into a spliff. Long slow draws, holding in the smoke, then lay back and close eyes.
 
hi:d

as long as yor friend is mature and stable enough, and is wanting to explore these realms for the right reasons within his/her self and has done the proper extensive reasearch (myself for example studied the molecule and its effects for 12 months, thousands of trip reports and read scores of literature before attempting an extraction), and even then one is only ready when they feel the time is right.

as far as your questions go I would highly reccomend you have a trusted friend present ( this is also great for re-telling your experience when u re-enter so as to not forget any details of your wonderful journey )

some prefer to do it alone but you have cited an inexperienced psychedelic travellar as the subject so my advice would be defo not alone.

and yes dim the lights

50mg could be quite a hefty load for somefolk and defo a breakthrough amount, may I suggest lowering your dose the 1st few times to get used to the sub-breakthrough effects, visuals and body load, when you are comfortable with these....hyperspace awaits you kind sir:wink:

fine regards
 
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Hm, i think i would honestly do some other sort of psychedelic before DMT. For some one thats never tripped before jumping into DMT could be a bit overwhelming. I'm suprised no ones said this?

How many of the people posting here tried DMT before shrooms/acid/2c-?/cacti/mescaline?? I can bet my bottom dollar none of you :p
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It is far different than any "normal" psych...Nothing can prepare you...IMO
 
Thanks so much to everyone for the advice, I appreciate it. I'll let my friend know everything and I'll definitely report back with the experience. Also when smoking out of a bowl for a bong, should there be a layer of oregano or something, then the DMT, then another layer of oregano? He has been extremely interested in DMT since last year and has read multiple personal account all over the internet, scoured the DMT page on Erowid, and has been lurking these forums for quite a while. He finally thinks he is ready to step up to the plate.
 
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Thanks so much to everyone for the advice, I appreciate it. I'll let my friend know everything and I'll definitely report back with the experience. Also when smoking out of a bowl for a bong, should there be a layer of oregano or something, then the DMT, then another layer of oregano? He has been extremely interested in DMT since last year and has read multiple personal account all over the internet, scoured the DMT page on Erowid, and has been lurking these forums for quite a while. He finally thinks he is ready to step up to the plate.
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take advise from all who give it...and when using the bong I go ash...spice...,.ash...but to each his own.
 
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Thanks so much to everyone for the advice, I appreciate it. I'll let my friend know everything and I'll definitely report back with the experience. Also when smoking out of a bowl for a bong, should there be a layer of oregano or something, then the DMT, then another layer of oregano? He has been extremely interested in DMT since last year and has read multiple personal account all over the internet, scoured the DMT page on Erowid, and has been lurking these forums for quite a while. He finally thinks he is ready to step up to the plate.
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I personally prefer ash. Less smoke. Also, I have never used the top layer, but I understand the principal of vaporizing the crystals, as some do not. The flame must NOT touch the crystals. A cm. or 2 above, while taking a large, long slow draw, allowing the flame to heat the pile, but not burn it. You can watch the crystals melt and dissolve into the ash. For the 2nd draw (if I can get one!), I usually then flame the bowl at the end of the draw. Just my own tech., which works great for me.
 
Astralking said:
Hm, i think i would honestly do some other sort of psychedelic before DMT. For some one thats never tripped before jumping into DMT could be a bit overwhelming. I'm suprised no ones said this?

How many of the people posting here tried DMT before shrooms/acid/2c-?/cacti/mescaline?? I can bet my bottom dollar none of you :p
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Swim has tried shrooms and salvia before spice.... the shroom trips were nothing to write home about but, the salvia trip you can say sorta prepped him even though its memory wasnt comforting swim before the spice journey. Nothing wrong with jumping right into spice in swims opinion, even without months of research ;) (might wanna spend a day or two looking into what its about though)
 
I dunno, when is someone ready?

where you ready for mushrooms or acid the first time you tried it?
I know i sure wasn't, i didn't even know what mushrooms were, i just ate them (almost a gram of dried ones) without having a clue what they did, i was almost 15 and clueless, the deraler where i bought my weed had two huge bags full of them but didn't warn me or anything, i just thought they where like eating spacecake.

Well, i kinda underestimated it :p , first it was bliss, but when it didn't stop after a few hours i really thought i was going to be hospitalized for life, i didn't even know what psychedelics were back then, i heard of LSD but i had no idea what it did, but i wasn't ready.

Sorry, on topic again; if you tell him carefully what DMT is and what he can expect he can prepare himself for the ride, that way he will be ready, start with a low dose like our beloved Antrocles sugested and he'll be fine.

Although, i think a low dose will probably not give him a real psychedelic experience, but he can upper the dose after his first try to go a little further.
 
I think set, setting, and preparation are most important.

I know a person whose only "altered" experiences are Ayahuasca, so there was no getting the feet wet with anything else. But it was done with extreme responsibility, networking with those who have gone before, it was not an affair undertaken lightly.

And it was an absolute success!!

The best thing to do would be to chat it up with people here, and read, read, read, read, read, read, read, and when you are sick of reading... (take a nap, have a snack, and) READ SOME MORE! :)
 
If you know your ready to do it then go for it but listen to the advice people are giving you and youll be fine.

Ur not interested in shrooms or lsd? There is a lot you can learn from these substances and i think they really help prepare you for a much heavier trip like dmt. Mushies are a lot like dmt at high doses. There's a lot of good psychedelic literature you should check out in the files..book bin and all of the internet really
 
I personally don't think that a DMT trip is heavier then acid or shrooms can be, it's absolutly more visual, and more intense, but the short duration makes it more easier then acid or shrooms can be.IMO.
 
When you're no paranoid schizofrenic, there's not that much to fear.

A good way to check whether you're a paranoid schizofrenic is to check for symptoms like: being obducted by aliens, being followed by the CIA, you're thoughts being tapped by aliens, a government organization or some celebrety who's on TV, you being god, jesus or simmilar prophet, the entire world being against you, having visions of unknown origin and dark content.
 
I expect your friend should be fine, I'd only be cautious if there's a history of mental illness for them or their family, not that I know if this is really an issue or not. If there is, do some more research. But don't take my word for it, because I'm no expert. The fact that you are asking this here instead of jumping straight in in ignorance shows that you are on a good path already.

Dreamer has always been a little socially paranoid (I say paranoid but maybe people really do slag him off and dislike him sometimes!), but has found no change so far, except for a more positive attitude so it happens less often.
 
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