Is this Breakthrough

[Jorkest]

do you take any medications?

 

[panoramixx]

You seem pretty adamant that despite the fact that you have no memory of visuals that you're not blacking out. Now it seems to me that if you just have no visuals to begin with and retain awareness the whole time, then that's one thing. If you can recall no visuals and you suddenly feel yourself coming back into your body, that sounds an awful lot like a blackout. The only advice I can offer is the same advice offered at the beginning of this thread, and that's to lower the dose (perhaps below 30mg even). Find the dose where you still do have visuals, and crank it up from there.

What kind of lighting are you doing this in? Is it dark, light, dim? Whatever it is change it up. Do it directly in front of a bright lamp if you need to.

primarily, I think it was blackout, as said on firsts posts.

So, I try again with 15, 20, 25, etc...

On low dose, I had no breakthrough (only OEV like a huge amount of shrooms, but very more beatifull).
Around 30mg, I have what I think is breakthrouw, but without remembering of visuals.

My prefered dose is by the way around 45mg, who is strong.

One time, upseted by this, I tried aroung 60mg (perhaps 70). It was my best trip. I feel completly disolved, and projected in other peoples body (hard to describe, but it was like if I was projected into other persons). The same time, when I came back, I was sure that "they" said me something extremly important, but I don't remeber what :/ But another time, no visual, expect a wonderfull patern just before breakthroughing.

I guess it's not blackout because I actually remember some sensations, and lot of other impressions, but just no visuals. Perhaps am I wrong anyway ad this is breakthrough....

It's hard to say if I have awarness conscience all the time, but I have at least some conscience......

I'm not sure if I'm clear, as my english is far from perfect. Actually, as far as I open the eyes after breakthrough, I have fucking OEV visuals, but they are deformations of the real environement, not an "other world"....

I now have take more than 1 gram of spice, in any lighting conditions, at near any dosage, and on lots of different situations (inside my home, outside near the sea, in forest, etc...). It always was exactly the same...

I tried meditation, but as I'm not familiar with it, i don't know if I done it well....

For me, there is several possible explanations :

- It's like this for me, and that's all.

- I don't let me completly "go away", and this block the visuals (it's strange to explain, but on several trips, when I come back I felt "they" said it to me), and I olso open my eyes perhaps too early on the trip. I tried to stay a full trip closed eyes, but I cannot.....

- "They" don't want me to enter, for an unknow reason....

By the way, I only have 50mg now and not sure to have more one day. I'll wait ideal conditions, try to meditate a long time, and do my last "shot", hopping the will show me something this time......

And in any case, each trip, even without visual memory, was really profound, and exceptionnal..... Several time, the only thinks who came on my spirit after the trip was WAOWWW !

PS : Not to say "I'm the best", but I think I am very experienced with psychedelics (200+ acid trips in my life, lots of shroom, and phenetylamines). I'm not sure, but it seems like it is a part of the problem, as if my mind consider that visual are not the most important thinks in DMT and focus on something else....

do you take any medications?

No.

 

[panoramixx]

double post

 

[panoramixx]

you might just be unlucky, my friend never remembers what happens, he know its something huge but he never has any recall of the experience.

It is exactly my case...

I know something strong happen, I know it was something huge, but I didn't remember what :?

Actually it is a little bit confusing as I pass long time to try to remember, even hours after the journey, but I only recall kinds of physical sensations

 

[Global]

Not keeping your eyes closed enough may have something to do with it. Perhaps consider a blindfold so that your eyes effectively remain closed the entire time.

 

[panoramixx]

Not keeping your eyes closed enough may have something to do with it. Perhaps consider a blindfold so that your eyes effectively remain closed the entire time.

Why not, but I imagine it must be really frightenning on come back.

I never try in total obscurity, perhaps is it to try.....

 

[nwosidsalp]

might you be a habitual marihuana smoker? I find when I've been chaining bong hits i have chunks of missing memory when GVGing

 

[VIII]

Not keeping your eyes closed enough may have something to do with it. Perhaps consider a blindfold so that your eyes effectively remain closed the entire time.

Why not, but I imagine it must be really frightenning on come back.

I never try in total obscurity, perhaps is it to try.....

Definitely a great idea to try. Opening my eyes certainly drops the trip down a notch or twelve whenever I do it. Also, close your eyes for a short while before the trip to get comfortable with it. Practice deep breathing while your eyes are closed with long breaths so the freebase hits won't feel too out of the normal flow. Once you have done this long enough to be comfortable (varies for me, 5-30+ minutes)Gently prepare yourself and your devices, maybe internally say some words of encouragement/inspiration, and begin dosing.

I don't think a blindfold would be too frightening. Returning from a breakthrough for me has a calming, simplification of the visuals as I return to my body until visuals fade to black-ish and I'm back.

I would recommend not dosing above 30mg. Since you seem to be blacking out anything above 30mg (maybe even 30mg) would be wasting spice.

nwosidsalp makes a good point as well. While my experiences with marijuana use and DMT don't always correlate with the missing memory, it is a good variable to eliminate if you want to ensure a proper breakthrough. Abstaining for an hour or so is plenty for me, ymmv (tolerance, strain duration, etc).

 

[panoramixx]

So it's sure that :

- I opened the eyes very early in the rush (less than 1 minute after taking the spice) that give me marvelous OEV.. Perhaps is it one of the causes.

- I mainly smoked weed before taking DMT (not just before, but...).

I'll try next time without weed in previous hours, and I'll try to focus on keeping my eyes closed (easiest to say that to do imho), and give you a feed back.

Thanks for help.