Is this Naphta ?

[Librarian]

Hi all

A proper introduction will follow sometime in the near future, but for now I have a burning question.

I want to know if this is lighter fluid product is Naphtha.

Clipper

Its the small 133ml tin.

I did an evaporation test, which left zero residue. Which is great, but no so much if it isn't Naphtha. Also, I couldn't find any answers on the net.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Xt]

It might be, i would look for something a little more obvious. Perhaps google naptha. Or look at some woodworking supply stores as they often sell litre cans of light aliphatic naptha. Theres a supplier thread here on nexus with various places.

You can do an evap test on any suspected naptha. Just drip a drop on a glass plate or mirror and let it evaporate. If it leaves behind a residue then do not use it.

Also if you google naptha MSDS you may find some products suitable for use.

 

[vibrancy3]

Just look for ''ronsonol'' or ''swan'' lighter fluid in your local convienent store

 

[endlessness]

The official "Is this chem ok to use? / Where can I find ...?" thread - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

hope it helps

 

[ubu]

Hello Librarian, talking about my own experience you are going to have a hard time trying to find information about this product.

I've got curious about it in the past. It is easy to find here in Brazil, much cheaper than Zippo Light Fluid (which works very well), but nobody seems to have used it before. This is probably due to the complete lack of information about its composition.

I believe the best thing to do would be to contact the manufacturer for details on its composition before deciding to use it. In doubt, post the details here.

 

[Newfound_wonder]

From what I'm reading, naphtha is a mixture of hydrocarbons having between 5 and 12 carbons. The product says it's butane; a hydrocarbon with 4 carbons. So while it is similar to naphtha, what worries me is the low boiling point of the butane. I've heard of people either being severely burned from doing butane extractions on cannabis so butane is definitely dangerous when used carelessly.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

so butane is definitely dangerous when used carelessly.

So is naptha and most other non-polar solvents. I can't even imagine what people were doing to burn themselves when doing a butane extraction on cannabis. There is no need for heat or flame or anything...those people must have been engaged in completely moronic activities.

 

[Newfound_wonder]

So is naptha and most other non-polar solvents. I can't even imagine what people were doing to burn themselves when doing a butane extraction on cannabis. There is no need for heat or flame or anything...those people must have been engaged in completely moronic activities.

Well here's the article, so if you're ever in Breckenridge you can find this man and woman and let them know how stupid they are.

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So it seems like butane and naphtha can act as a nonpolar solvent for extractions. But butane boils at 32F and shouldn't be handled near any static spark or flame.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

The article and its reference to the BHO method used show a method that involves no flame, heat, etc...I still have no clue as to what kind of stupidity must have been involved for them to blow up their house in such a manner...Personally, I'd nominate them for a Darwin Award.

But butane...shouldn't be handled near any static spark or flame.

Neither should naptha or any other non-polar solvent.

 

[ubu]

The product says it's butane

Hello Newfound, the first small bottle isn't butane but something else. It's used to refill Zippo lighters, so there is a chance it might be naphtha.

The Brazilian/Portuguese (Spanish?) term "gasolina azul" - stamped in the small bottle - means "blue gasoline". As far I know, blue gas is commonly related to jet fuel or high octane fuel. And to further confuse things, in some countries naphtha is called "white gas" (white gasoline, gasolina blanca, white benzene, etc).

 

[Librarian]

Thanks for the great advice. I will definitely shop around for something better. I think I would rather pay a bit extra if it means getting a purer solvent. It's hard to find this sort of thing in South Africa, though.
The convenience stores and supermarkets I tried in my town only stock the Clipper lighter fluids.
But I admit, I havent thought of trying woodworking supply stores or art stores.

Thanks again.

 

[Newfound_wonder]

Yeah I wish I knew what was in that gasolina azul. If no one here knows and if you can't get in touch with the company that makes it, there is the option of doing some tests to deduce the composition of that container.

I had the idea of calling the company or sending them an e-mail but I really don't know what to say.

 

[mumbles]

Just ask for the MSDS, and failing that ask for a list of components. They will probably give you the MSDS if you ask.

 

[Librarian]

No worries.

A few hours on the net was enough to discover a company that sells Xylene wholesale. Also did some phoning around to art stores, and Naphtha probably won't be a problem (one guy said he knew exactly what I was talking about, but he would have to order special).
So for now it seems my solvent worries are over.:d

 

[Orion]

I heard zippo was naptha and i do wish i had a link to hand. Zippo fluid is a very clean solvent though and leaves so little residue compared to others.

 

[cuddlybear]

is there any updates on this? i have mhrb currently steeping in lye solution. but clipper gazolina azul is the only thing i can find in my town, there is various brands of "white spirit" but none of them have ingredients...

might just give it a go with this gazolina azul, surely it should do the job if its a similar chem, iv done an evaporation test and it leaves no residue whatsoever..

 

[Mimosa_Man]

is there any updates on this? i have mhrb currently steeping in lye solution. but clipper gazolina azul is the only thing i can find in my town, there is various brands of "white spirit" but none of them have ingredients...

might just give it a go with this gazolina azul, surely it should do the job if its a similar chem, iv done an evaporation test and it leaves no residue whatsoever..

google "(brand name) msds"

 

[Gingerstones]

I'm stuck with some of this gasoline azulejo too, it smells a little off, thought I'd bump the thread, I've dredged the web on info on it with no joy..... Help !!!

 

[Soul Grower]

I have been looking up about this as i have some clipper fuel,they seem to have made it difficult to get proper info but from what I can make of it, light naptha is a petroleum dissilate with an average of 6 hydrocarbons and from what the clipper fluid is gasoline which is also naptha unless I am mistaken and has a hydrocarbon range of c08 to c14 which is in the light naptha range. I will be doing a small extract with it tonight and will post up with the result.

My main thinking is that it is light naptha its just not plainly written on the tin.

If you want the msds just search UN1268 msds and you will have all the info you need.

I am not in any way certain but from what I can make from looking into it I believe clipper is no different than swan and ronsonol. I've done a evap and its left no residue.

I am new to the nexus and am just trying to get involved and learn.

I hope this is a start on My way to being helpful

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Hi Soul Grower! Welcome to the Nexus...

You've chosen rather an old thread to dip your toe in

If you ask me, I'd say C8 to C14 is more in the range of medium naphtha.

Finding the right NPS is rather dependant on what part of the world you find yourself in, some things being more ubiquitous than others. Tiny canisters of lighter fuel are a more expensive way of obtaining liquid hydrocarbons on the whole, despite (or because of) their accessibility.

Have you extracted yet?


And now for a bit of nerdiness: UN1268 is a pretty vague classification although it does the job. Similarly vague entries include UN3295 and the slightly more specific UN1300.