Apoc said:
cellux said:
Norl said:
It seems Tolle has never mentioned use of psychedelics or entheogens.
@ 4:40
LOL!!! I was not expecting him to say it like that. Interesting, he says all that happened on acid was that sense perceptions became amplified. Hmmmm.... that is nothing like what I experience on entheos.
Frankly, I doubt he really injested LSD-25 or if he did, it was in such a minute amount that he never reached a significant threshold level or had a breakthrough experience. Had he, if fact, taken enough acid (being a "spiritual" person)... he would have gone through ego death, reached a point of consciousness where he was void of subjectivity and ultimately, merged with the Void. None of these pivotal experiences, characteristic of people under the intoxication of any potent psychedelic, were even remotely alluded to. He does mention "heightened senses" and just how red a stop light appears while tripping, as an example for those who have yet to trip. I don't get it? He suggests he experienced a kind of synthesia but never mentions any transcendental states of consciousness or merging with the infinite web of the Grid or even a loss of self-orientation. Furthermore, he said to Oprah that LSD was a more "violent" experience than what he is teaching. It's a subjective assessment, after all. IMO, he would benefit from smoking DMT. I am certain that no person's ego can withstand that much boundless spiritual power!
What Eckhart says is true IMO, i've got quite a few friends who are in their 50's/60's now, who did lots of acid/mesc in their younger years and they say that acid is nowhere near the kind of experience you get from meditation...
They all tell me to start meditation as it's way more powerful, deep and meaningful.
I'm nobody special and I don't mean to imply I have the all of the answers. I've been doing sitting meditation since I was 16 and will turn 52 in November. I was practicing various forms of meditation, years before I took LSD-25, mescaline or mushrooms. The two practices, formal meditation and the Medicine Path, are not mutually exclusive. Moreover, the two work tremendously well together. I would wholeheartedly encourage any psychonauts to embrace the daily repetition of meditation to their routine. That being said, nothing is so simplistic as one way of life, in favor of the other. A little Medicine helps to awaken the seeker and regular spiritual practice helps to gently tune the soul. Still, the undeniable fact is that chemicals eventually wear off and we must find the light on our two grounded feet. "All things in good measure." I feel we must temper our cosmic voyages with harmonious meditative pursuits like: sitting meditation, contemplation, yoga, music, art, exercise, tai chi chuan or any number of proven healing activities. This, however, cannot be confused with the journey of the wounded healer, as tripping gives a gift of insight which is otherwise unattainable (except in brief flashes of clear inspiration). :shock:
haha
