Kambo

[Infinite I]

I noticed on mayas google advert something called Kambo, ive never heard of it, just looked it up there and its toad venom, would this be a good source of 5meo? Anyone any experience with it? Cheers

http://www.maya-ethnobotanicals.com/product_browse.phtml/catid/subid/herbid_468

 

[endlessness]

no its not 5-meo..

kambo = phyllomedusa bicolor

it is more of an ordeal poison than a psychedelic. The active principles seem to work on opioid receptors, and its no 'trip'... The indigenous people make little burns in your arms and they apply the venom there, and soon you feel really really bad, purge, your face swells, you think you're gonna die, and then it all gets better and you are happy to be alive (if you didnt die, because some people do...). Apparently it boosts the immune system and might have medical applications, but not much has been published in the wester world about it that im aware of..

be careful!

 

[Infinite I]

After I posted that I thought it might be that because I couldnt see any reference to 5meo, I remember hearing dennis mckenna talk about it.

 

[deamsterphile]

(if you didnt die, because some people do...)

References? Sources, Proof?

SWIM has done kambo several times with several people

The only thing you have to worry about is if you have a weak heart or blood pressure issues.

It is a great healing experience, not a "fun" way to spend a day, but an actual healing expereince

It cleans out your entire body, makes you puke yellow bile and even possibly shit your pants, you feel like you are more hung over than you have ever been.

That lasts about a half hour(feels like longer), then you just feel drained, but after a good nights rest(youll sleep like a baby) you will wake up and feel like a million bucks

Here are some links you can read about in some detail

http://mariri.net/content/view/22/1/

Kambô, The Spirit of the Shaman

Marcelo Bolshaw Gomes “Kambô circulates in the heart. Our shaman said that when we take Kambô it makes the heart move accurately, so that things flow, bringing good things to the person. It i…

www.ayahuasca.com

Frog skin opioid peptides: a case for environmental mimicry.

Naturally occurring environmental substances often mimic endogenous substances found in mammals and are capable of interacting with specific proteins, such as receptors, with a high degree of fidelity and selectivity. Narcotic alkaloids and amphibian ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19294

http://www.lycaeum.org/diseyes/fresh/nunu.htm

and finally a movie to finish off all that reading!

It is in spanish but if you skip to the end you can watch them administer the Kambo

 

[balaganist]

I have done Kambo twice now, and although it is not exactly pleasant, it is powerful medicine. Cases of people dying are VERY rare.
It does boost your immune system, and cleans your system out like nothing else I have experienced. Afterward you feel totally calm, grounded and serene. I will do it again!! Although, its not for everyone...

I would only have it administered by someone experienced.

It is used in Brazil to treat drug addicts, apparently with very high success rates.

 

[Bancopuma]

I have done Kambo 3 times now, it is very powerful medicine (for me the 2nd and 3rd times were much stronger than the first). The short term revolting feeling doesn't last that long, although you do feel pretty odd. I think there might be something to the immuno-boosting effects, I didn't get any winter colds or flus this winter at all. Incredibly cleansing, grounding synergy with ayahuasca. Physical and mental clarity. I think its pretty safe, but should be avoided by those with heart conditions or blood pressure issues as has been mentioned.

 

[endlessness]

(if you didnt die, because some people do...)

References? Sources, Proof

if you can read portuguese, look 'ademir tavares sapo' on google and you'll see this particular case, for example.. I cant find any info about previous conditions from this person that could have been the 'real' cause..

Im not saying that its common thing for people to die, but its not like our usual psychedelics with their established physical safety.

The shaman I worked with in Brazil did this kambo application too and he also considered it of a different safety profile than the other medicines he worked with like ayahuasca and snuffs...

Im sorry if I came out as alarmist, im just saying for people to be careful and do with someone that the knows what they are doing, as well as to make sure they have no prior health issues, and to know that its not like the standard psychedelics at all.. and better start low as always (I dont know how it was with you guys doing but they can make more or less burns depending and put venom according to the person, so better ask to go low at first)

all the best to you people

 

[deamsterphile]

im just saying for people to be careful and do with someone that the knows what they are doing, as well as to make sure they have no prior health issues, and to know that its not like the standard psychedelics at all.. and better start low as always

I hear you absolutely.

And I hope I didnt succeed in minimalizing the seriousness of it.





SWIM has been battling knee pain from torn ligaments and almost nothing ever seams to help.

When SWIM did the kambo the next few days the swelling and pain were almost gone.

 

[jamie]

this is something I am 100% sure I am going to do if and when the situation arises with the right facilitator..