Letting my Dad smoke DMT

[The Unknowing]

So I've been talking to my dad about DMT for a while now, giving him information on it in short bites for a few years now, and he finally agreed to let me extract it (god only knows how). He is very paranoid, but I am aware there are risks involved but believe the benefits outweigh them.

I loaded him up a bowl in a water bong and gave him a briefing on how to smoke it and hold it in etc, and had a glass of water ready for him. His smoking technique was absolutely awful and he wasn't able to hold the smoke in for more than a few seconds. However, he seemed to be enjoying what he saw and told me his vision was morphing and he could hear vibration.

When he came down he suddenly flipped out at me, becoming paranoid that the neighbours had heard. Then he got more and more unsettled and told me I shouldn't be doing this kind of drug and that it's not real and that I can never smoke it again.
He said "You need to get OFF this drug" as if I was some kind of addict...

At this point I started to get really pissed off- he was back to his ignorant-assed self.
I told him it was completely non-addictive, in fact most people have no inclination to try it again (at least for a while) and he just wouldn't listen. When I tried to reason with him he'd go off and say "A drug like that is going to mess you up mentally". We argued for at least an hour before I just gave up trying to persuade him and went to my room.

I'm incredibly frustrated and regret telling him anything AT ALL, because he always ends up thinking 'what if' with a very negative attitude.

So my fellow Nexians,
Feel free to give advice or say anything at all, I need some feedback from a more understanding crowd.

Much Appreciated,
OneEye

 

[obliguhl]

Apparantly, your father had an experience which was somehow troubling for him and i'd guess that he tries to protect you from potential danger, like any good father would do. Perhaps it would be a good idea to not make this about you and not being allowed to smoke DMT, but him - perhaps he needs to discuss his experience with someone. But then, i don't know if he would be completely open with you. He is your father and might feel the need to appear "strong".

 

[3rdI]

if he doesn't want you to do it then he doesn't want you to do it, and if he is going to back it up with nonsense then there's even less you can do, it sounds like even if you presented him with all the facts he would still disagree and think you are an addict.

If your under his roof then I guess you have to play by his rules. Im sure he only has concerns for your safety, even if they are misplaced.

Don't vape in his house and keep it to yourself from now on, once you move out then you can do what you like.

 

[Doodazzle]

Don't vape in his house and keep it to yourself from now on, once you move out then you can do what you like.

Yup.


Sorry it went like that for you--but hey, it was brave of you to try turning the old guy on. Tried your best eh, what can you do?

 

[DisEmboDied]

I wish my Dad or Mom would smoke DMT, haha.

I would just keep it to myself, I have learned to do that, most people might just think you are a weirdo.

I wonder sometimes about the addictive part. To me it has great benefit worth any cost, but some people, true travelers, true seekers, want to keep going back to try and figure wtf is going on over there, or in there. Sometimes I think that it is addictive, not for most people, no way, but for a select few. It can take over your thought and life. Just a warning, not a particularly bad warning, but caution for sure. It tends to be confusing, though I am a true seeker of truth and so do it anyway.

Peace!

 

[DisEmboDied]

The main danger is!............it may turn you into a hippie. Haha

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

I wish my Dad or Mom would smoke DMT, haha.

I would just keep it to myself, I have learned to do that, most people might just think you are a weirdo.

I wonder sometimes about the addictive part. To me it has great benefit worth any cost, but some people, true travelers, true seekers, want to keep going back to try and figure wtf is going on over there, or in there. Sometimes I think that it is addictive, not for most people, no way, but for a select few. It can take over your thought and life. Just a warning, not a particularly bad warning, but caution for sure. It tends to be confusing, though I am a true seeker of truth and so do it anyway.

Peace!

There's an editorial that crops up every couple of months about how DMT is actually one of the most dangerous drugs in the world because it, unlike most other drugs, it actually causes users to remain delusional long after the effects of the drugs have worn off -- they believe that they have spoken to or been abducted by aliens, gone to different dimensions, and/or seen God, which are all things we associate with mental illness.


Blessings
~ND

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

Well OEA, you stepped up swung and missed. It took a lot of courage. But the fact that it took courage meant you were risking something, so in your failure you may have lost out on the freedom to spice up at home you were enjoying previously.

Oh well.

Like obliguhl, I think you could try to be there for him and help him process his experience. At least get him to describe what his experience was, and why it disturbed him... but TBH, from your explanation I think he had a sub-breakthrough, but over threshold experience... which are the type of experiences most likely to make people feel "drugged" and not get the otherworldly, cosmic dimension hopping, "true hallucination" stuff. It is quite likely that you may never get another shot with him, and arguing the matter is only likely to provoke him into an even more extreme stance. No need to push; you don't want him staging an intervention for you.

@DisEmboDied What's wrong with being a hippie? 8)

@Nathanial.Dread I guess every psychonaut wonders about their sanity from time to time. It goes with the territory. But as far as DMT goes, if DMT does simply make us delusional, it would have to be a natural and necessary delusion as we produce the stuff endogenously. Course, it wouldn't surpprise me if all humans were born delusional... if that was our natural state, so to speak.

 

[DisEmboDied]

Nothing at all wrong with being a hippie, I am an amateur hippie myself. Just a joke, haha

 

[The Unknowing]

If your under his roof then I guess you have to play by his rules. Im sure he only has concerns for your safety, even if they are misplaced.

Don't vape in his house and keep it to yourself from now on, once you move out then you can do what you like.

That's probably my best bet. It's just sad I have to hide such a life-changing opportunity from people I care about.

I have definitely learnt a valuable lesson from this: Be very careful who you mention DMT to, and even more careful who you load the pipe for.

 

[shanedudddy2]

Had he had any previous experience with psychedelics?
I find people who have only tried alcohol their entire life, find it unpleasant and frightening.
Whereas people whom have taken LSD, mushrooms and the such, have adjusted far better.
I am in the boat of people who do not tell their parents about it, but I have my own house, so it isn't so much of an issue.
I think it's just a culture thing.
I`d love to talk to my folks about it, but I know they would not understand, and certainly wouldn't ever try it with me. Sad, but it`s the way things are.

 

[DisEmboDied]

"It's just sad I have to hide such a life-changing opportunity from people I care about."

True. Sad but true.

 

[The Unknowing]

Had he had any previous experience with psychedelics?
I find people who have only tried alcohol their entire life, find it unpleasant and frightening.
Whereas people whom have taken LSD, mushrooms and the such, have adjusted far better.
I am in the boat of people who do not tell their parents about it, but I have my own house, so it isn't so much of an issue.
I think it's just a culture thing.
I`d love to talk to my folks about it, but I know they would not understand, and certainly wouldn't ever try it with me. Sad, but it`s the way things are.

He's been drinking alcohol his entire life (almost every day), and has only tried pot a few times (and mentioned to me he didn't like it). Maybe this was the crucial error in my judgement, but I did warn him it wasn't to be taken lightly.