Listening to music on syrian rue

[Jamie01]

For music I like a lot of stuff including icaros.

 

[harmala_afficianado]

I'd typically do three swift-ish (20-30 mins), hard boils on whole seeds, and even then got a surprise flooring from a final combined boil on a week's worth of aggregated 'spent' seeds. Looks like you'd get by on 5g doses with a bit of a shaping up of your brewing method.

Wouldn't it be nice to get twice the mileage from these precious seeds? I wonder if you'd notice a difference in qualitative effects, though. Do you have any experience with any of the three principal alkaloids separately?

Do you have some more specific comments on your experience of the auditory and music appreciation qualities of rue because, you know, thread title…?

I really wish what your saying is true, i will try this way tomorrow and ill see how it goes, not because i wanna save more seeds but because i was worried before 12g daily might be stressing my liver, so knowing it was way less than that would be a huge relief.



As for the music, for me the main diff between the music enhancment of psychedelics/weed and the enhancment of rue is that with rue the music feels more "raw" and "real" than anything else, also i think the fact that rue somehow can give you full access to the psychedelic space while also keeping you fully grounded in normal reality makes it more special in regards to music, sure psychedelics can make you more sensitive to the music, but it also becomes more "dreamy" and like its "not real, rue will enhance the music you already like sober more than any other psychedelic, but other psychedelics will perhaps change your music taste entirely, id say theyre just diff flavors.

 

[The Sofa Traveler]

Harmalas/rue teas give me deeper focus and emotional feeling while listening to music but the most noticeable effect I encounter above a certain dose is that the music always sounds faster. It's especially obvious on music with regular beat (typically electronic music 4/4 structure) and music that I know well, it's less obvious on beatless (no beat - not Beatles ) music like ambient or very stretched/diluted music. It's not obvious on music I listen to for the first time as I don't have a reference point in mind. Also, although the music sounds faster, it doesn't sound higher-pitched, which is a usual consequence on music when played accelerated on analog mechanical device such as a turntable.
I also concur with what other Nexians said, the fact you can handle 12g daily dose is probably related to sub-optimal tea preparation and it also could be related to weak seeds batches. 5g optimally prepared tea with decent seeds is already a strong dose. In addition to what has already been said, I'd say that if you use hard tap water, it should be slightly acidified to enhance the tea strength.
I'm quite used to rue/harmalas which I take regularly since years but I remember times when I was drinking high doses of seeds teas (typically 5g) for several consecutive days : the 2 or 3 days after it I was always feeling drowsy and kind of lazy, I could have several naps in a day although I had slept more than enough during the night. That's why I don't take anymore harmalas/rue tea in high doses when I do several days in a row, I avoid having high doses (which I enjoy) in this case.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Fascinating thread. Does anyone have any input as to the effects of lower dose, daily, Rue use? Didn't someone used to take a pinch between the cheek and gums daily? What oral potentiation of DMT would one get with daily, lighter dosing?
Just any input on daily use at lower levels.

 

[harmala_afficianado]

Harmine/harmaline/rue/vine seem to have a tolerance associated with them, and after some time the side effects are less also. I dunno about reverse tolerance. There is no data to support there being reverse tolerance to rue to vine. Its been elevated to the level where people seem to just assume it is true, while in the past other people here have noted that there does seem to be tolerance to the psychedelic effects. Perhaps it is related to serotonin 2a activity.

There def is some type of reverse tolerance, at least in the beggining, its more like you get better each day at navigating the harmala space, the only thing that i built tolerance for was the "novelty", i still get vivid OEVs most of the time lol.

 

[Jamie01]

It’s the neon laser beam tryptamine style of visions/visuals in the dark that seem lacking any time I started dosing daily etc.

 

[harmala_afficianado]

It’s the neon laser beam tryptamine style of visions/visuals in the dark that seem lacking any time I started dosing daily etc.

You mean those CEVs? I still get them daily lol, vivid too, if you mean oevs in the dark then im not sure ive never had neon like OEVs but i always have them eyes closed, OEVs for me now show up at hour 3-4, the air will have this ripple effect and my vision will be tracing

 

[harmala_afficianado]

Harmalas/rue teas give me deeper focus and emotional feeling while listening to music but the most noticeable effect I encounter above a certain dose is that the music always sounds faster. It's especially obvious on music with regular beat (typically electronic music 4/4 structure) and music that I know well, it's less obvious on beatless (no beat - not Beatles ) music like ambient or very stretched/diluted music. It's not obvious on music I listen to for the first time as I don't have a reference point in mind. Also, although the music sounds faster, it doesn't sound higher-pitched, which is a usual consequence on music when played accelerated on analog mechanical device such as a turntable.
I also concur with what other Nexians said, the fact you can handle 12g daily dose is probably related to sub-optimal tea preparation and it also could be related to weak seeds batches. 5g optimally prepared tea with decent seeds is already a strong dose. In addition to what has already been said, I'd say that if you use hard tap water, it should be slightly acidified to enhance the tea strength.
I'm quite used to rue/harmalas which I take regularly since years but I remember times when I was drinking high doses of seeds teas (typically 5g) for several consecutive days : the 2 or 3 days after it I was always feeling drowsy and kind of lazy, I could have several naps in a day although I had slept more than enough during the night. That's why I don't take anymore harmalas/rue tea in high doses when I do several days in a row, I avoid having high doses (which I enjoy) in this case.

I could barely handle 4g daily the first month, was stoned all day, sooner or later though youll find yourself pretty comfortable with high doses, i have read about @embracethevoid experience with rue, he was also using 10g+ doses daily with no issues.