• Members of the previous forum can retrieve their temporary password here, (login and check your PM).

low dose breakthroughs

Migrated topic.

Sky Motion

Small Shard in a Grand Mosaic
Donator
Joined
Oct 7, 2011
Messages
1,135
Merits
451
me and my friend sometimes do a S.H.E together or just have a changa "session" when we feel the time calls for one.

anyway, my friend has been CONSISTENTLY breaking through on 25-35mg 1:1 leaf, which is at MOST 18mg DMT. The leaf even ended up weighing more than 2 grams after 1g DMT and 1g leaf were infused. (solvent trace? I don't think so though, fully dried) anyways.. does anyone else have breakthroughs with such dosage, it's a little strange to me. It takes me a solid 25mg/50mg leaf to get there.

we are using a machine.
 
I can have a full breakthrough with 20mg with DMT fb out of the GVG. Probably 18mg too :lol:
 
Yes. I have broken through off 15mg before. First hit of freebase from the GVG - BOOM, entities and all sorts! That was quite a shock! :lol: Lucky guy though, cheap date ;)

But yes, usually 25mg is just the right amount, it seems that was a one off, 15mg is now a fairly standard warm up dose.
 
Global said:
I can have a full breakthrough with 20mg with DMT fb out of the GVG. Probably 18mg too :lol:

Me too. Altough I can see entities sometimes even on 14mg, especially with sublingual harmalas.15mg is visual but of course the colors are not so clear
These days about 23mg is my breakthrough dose
 
Sky Motion said:
me and my friend sometimes do a S.H.E together or just have a changa "session" when we feel the time calls for one.

anyway, my friend has been CONSISTENTLY breaking through on 25-35mg 1:1 leaf, which is at MOST 18mg DMT. The leaf even ended up weighing more than 2 grams after 1g DMT and 1g leaf were infused. (solvent trace? I don't think so though, fully dried) anyways.. does anyone else have breakthroughs with such dosage, it's a little strange to me. It takes me a solid 25mg/50mg leaf to get there.

we are using a machine.
How do you smoke changa in a machine? I would of thought it was only suitable for freebase.
 
Lots of variables:

person's weight;
smoking technique;
lung capacity;
time held in;
individual tolerance/susceptibility to DMT


- to list a few!
 
ive had people breakthrough from just one big toke of about 25 mg and was gone. has anyone experiene a glass shattering like kaliodoscope that breaks into white light i experieced something like that yesterday with probably about 40 mg of off white spice but thats not a low dose.
 
infinteworkshop said:
ive had people breakthrough from just one big toke of about 25 mg and was gone. has anyone experiene a glass shattering like kaliodoscope that breaks into white light i experieced something like that yesterday with probably about 40 mg of off white spice but thats not a low dose.

25mg is a normal breakthru dose with the genie, and ANYTHING can happen, at least in my experience:)
 
infinteworkshop said:
has anyone experiene a glass shattering like kaliodoscope that breaks into white light

YESSSS :!: :d :!:

It's sublime isn't it? Something that I've noticed when it happens for me is that I get this stacking of holographic layers one on top of the other. Eventually white begins to balloon out of the complex overlaid holograms. It's also usually about precisely this time when time begins grinding to a halt. My interpretation of the white is that with the colors all stacked on top of each other, eventually it becomes the case where all the frequencies are overlapping which is sort of like the reverse Zeeman effect.
 
Global said:
infinteworkshop said:
has anyone experiene a glass shattering like kaliodoscope that breaks into white light

YESSSS :!: :d :!:

It's sublime isn't it? Something that I've noticed when it happens for me is that I get this stacking of holographic layers one on top of the other. Eventually white begins to balloon out of the complex overlaid holograms. It's also usually about precisely this time when time begins grinding to a halt. My interpretation of the white is that with the colors all stacked on top of each other, eventually it becomes the case where all the frequencies are overlapping which is sort of like the reverse Zeeman effect.

And this is why we fly. :d

Peace
 
^that is basically what happens virtually eveyr single time I have smoked outside with the sun beaming onto the back of my eyelids..every time.

It is different in the dark at night time for some reason.
 
Hello, I need some help navigating my first steps with DMT.

I made the machine which is 50 ml one-serving bottle.

The spice itself is slightly yellow and fluffy with some sparkle to it. Doesn't smell strong

My weight is around 65 kg/143 lbs

I am doing my first steps trying to learn how to vape properly.

Loaded what i assume 15 mg of dmt. I used scales but they read only in 10 mg, so i loaded 30 mg and divided that amount by making long line between folded paper.

Here's what happened:

I was sitting cross-legged prepare to lay down. Placing jet-torch around 3 inches below the bottle facing down i was slowly inhaling it but for the first maybe 5-6 seconds didn't see any smoke, so i just continued to inhale with the same pace. About as fast as i would drink a coctail through a straw. Then the smoke started to appear so i began to inhale faster until i hit my lungs' capacity. There was still some smoke left so with the last attempt i loaded as much as i can and lie down.

No burning sensation or whatever unpleasant, the smoke tasted little bit creamy/fresh sneakers with a tad of cotton candy.

At this point i already felt like well shaked bottle of cola which have been instantly opened.

As i lie down i felt as my chest bursting with the extra pressure from all the air i was holding in my lungs, i tried to release a little bit but i saw the smoke coming out so i held it.

My heart felt like i am gonna have a heart attack.

Things got really intense here so i was just "wtf.. whatever" and finally exhaled. I don't rememeber seeing any smoke in those morphing lines anyway.

I closed my eyes and felt as it is my end. My chest were dizzy and as my conciosuness were sliding out of the body i couldn't tell if my heart is beating or not.

I didn't see any chrysanthemum or all those Alex Grey's like landscapes. There were just many shapes keep on exploding in the ever increasing intricateness which sucked whatever left of me into it. I didn't pay much attention to all these patterns anyway as my ego was like strobing through a serie of Q-and-A's trying to save it from a sure end. It seems in the end i let go of the ego and somehow i accepted that it is inevitable that i am gonna die, but as soon as i accepted it i realised that i can't die anyway. No such thing in this eternity. Obviously it was much more complicated than that but this is the closest i can get. No visible entities, perhaps i felt some presence which were guiding me through Q-and-A's phase but i am not sure. When i got to the final answer it left me and i floated for some time in pure wonder. Then i just landed back in a matter of seconds. Suddenly i felt my body again and i opened my eyes to check it. Yep, i was back, but i closed them to take my time and process what just happened. I was breathing heavily like you breathe when you trying to calm yourself taking deep inhales and exhaling noisily through tighten lips. At this point this ego voice popped up with the most obsessive question: "So what? Did i breakthrough?!". Then giggles attack came and i was like "here you are, the epitome of maniac self-concern".


Thank you for reading all that rattle that far.

Questions.

1. Did i breakthrough? I still felt like some residue of my body but i didn't lose the sense completely like say with ketamine. I still vaguely felt my head on the pillow and my hands on the chest.

2. If i did not, what would be an estimated breakthrough dose then? Honestly, i didn't even imagine that 15 mg would be that intense. I was aiming for 30 mg but now vaping twice as much seems plain scary.

3. How to prevent heart racing? I mean entering hyperspace with my heart beating out of my chest isn't good "set-and-setting". Pre flight anxiety is already bad on me and while normally i can calm myself by breathing deeply and slowly here i need to hold my breath which doesn't help with such an intense bast off.

 
Back
Top Bottom