LSD bad trip help

[XaniKi]

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to be posting this here or not, but I honestly don't know where else to go... This is my last chance before telling my mother and going to a hospital or medical place she will no doubt recommend.

I dropped 1 and a half tabs last night and ever since (22 hours later), I haven't been the same... I started off with half a tab (my normal dosage) and then decided to up the dosage to 1 and a half (I wasn't feeling what I normally was, so I made a stupid mistake in taking more). I was smoking some crystal meth on friday night which kept me up (might have had 2 or 3 hours sleep friday night to saturday). Previously on LSD, it has come in waves and the hallucinations don't stick around for too long (they come and go). This time was different... I didn't stop hallucinating the whole night. Reality had entirely changed and was at first somewhat enjoyable, then I entered a bad trip. I felt very scared, etc and that I might go full schizophrenic... Time felt to go on forever...

Anyway, I broke down and was crying while tripping out last night, and was crying a little this morning about 8-10 hours after the trip had really kicked in. This whole day I've wanted to sleep but been unable to physically go to sleep (it feels weird, uncomfortable and a little scary the way I start thinking and my thoughts keep spiralling).

Naturally, I'm a very pessimistic person and always see the negative side of things, and can never stop my mind from fixating on negatives, which has really flipped me out. Even writing this, I'm contemplating seeking medical help... I'm genuinely scared for my well being, and that I'm going to be permanently damaged.

I really don't know what to do and I'm pretty scared, please help me...

 

[acacian]

Hey mate... really sorry to hear you had such a rough experience. LSD, while an amazing tool, can also be quite a confronting and hellish experience if you have trouble surrendering to its wrath...its a serious thing that you need to be committed to.. I'd recommend not taking any other substances for a while and talking to somebody you feel comfortable around...transparency is key at times like these, so don't let it all bottle up. Don't worry, a lot of people have these experiences, and say many of the same things you have said. You just need time, and you need to nurture yourself. I can say that smoking crystal meth prior to a psychedelic experience is definitely not a good idea.. its not wise to start a journey when you are sleep deprived as it can become quite exhausting trying to keep up with it when your mind wants rest..

good luck... you'll be fine. this will pass. I once thought I would never come back after a bad experience on LSD... I'm here now and i'm better from it

 

[Shaolin]

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You have ingested a drug and you are still experiencing some of its effects. If you are able, try talking with a friend that is experienced with psychedelics.

Alternatively, put on your favourite music, breath deep and remember this too shall pass.

 

[XaniKi]

I'm in the chat now, I really appreciate this everyone...

 

[Pandora]

XaniKi,

Hi there. Thanks for posting this here - this is what the open area is for. Sharing anything on your mind.

I am wondering how you are feeling this morning? Any better? Did you get any rest?

LSD can be unpredictable. I sure know this. It can open very surprising doors in our head. Surely you know that smoking crystal meth is very bad for your body. I would suggest that even if you deny this, your body understands this all too well. I would also suggest that exhaustion, for example not sleeping for 22+ hours can make one emotionally fragile, . . . push it to a couple/few days and it can make one really crazy.

Maybe I'm just projecting my own stuff here I don't know. But, it almost seems to me your trip is and was giving you a very strong message to get more healthy. To take more control in your life.

Once you come down, I would suggest doing things that help bring you back to earth and confirm everyday reality. Take a walk or hike in nature, spend time playing with children, prepare a good, nutritious meal, make love, exercise like a fiend, etc. Then in the coming weeks I would recommend a very regular program of nutritious meals, exercise and sleep as well as avoiding harsh stimulants.

I suspect and hope you will be feeling much much better. Please keep us posted.

 

[Guyomech]

I've had a handful of bad trips, and indeed on the morning after you can feel a little wrecked, somewhat uncentered and unsure. But this feeling passes naturally and usually gives way to a feeling of gratitude and a greater perspective. The rough ones take more work to integrate but are ultimately some of the more useful experiences.

I won't preach about the meth, I'm sure you are aware that it's not great stuff. What I will say is that, in addition to being physically depleted upon beginning your trip, amphetamines can also bring out a feeling of paranoia. Combine this with the wild exaggeration that tripping can bring out, and you've got an ugly combination. Right now you are likely still in the shafow of this experience, but it will pass, like everyone has said. Try to embrace the lessons- not just the obvious ones about meth and acid or whatever, but the larger ones about working on a positive outlook and that kind of thing.

In ten years you may look back at this moment as being one of the more important steps in your path.

Keep your chin up, friend!

 

[JourneyToJah]

Sorry to hear this. It is good that you know that you are tripping and you are aware.


My advice is to relax, listen to some ambiental music and breath deep. Ride it out and try to enjoy it.
Think of it as if you were drunk and you know you'll wake up tomorrow with a nasty hangover; its just like that.

The same as @Guyomech - I dont want to preach about the meth but I personally consider the two quite opposite and it is a no-no for me.

I will keep you in my thoughts, sending you good vibes to guide you trough.

Blesses!

 

[CharlesBronson]

I'm sorry to hear your experience left you so shaken. I agree with Pandora and Guyomech, take better care of your body and mind. Never take your health for granted, ALWAYS be conscious of what you put into your body and what it does in the long run.

I don't wanna bash meth too much here, but have you ever seen a long term meth user that looks healthy/attractive? Someone you'd wanna end up like? It's a self inflicted disease that basically ruins your body physically and mentally.

Eating and living healthy will do wonders for your outlook on life and the relationship you have with yourself. :thumb_up:

 

[Beelzebozo]

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to be posting this here or not, but I honestly don't know where else to go... This is my last chance before telling my mother and going to a hospital or medical place she will no doubt recommend.

I dropped 1 and a half tabs last night and ever since (22 hours later), I haven't been the same... I started off with half a tab (my normal dosage) and then decided to up the dosage to 1 and a half (I wasn't feeling what I normally was, so I made a stupid mistake in taking more). I was smoking some crystal meth on friday night which kept me up (might have had 2 or 3 hours sleep friday night to saturday). Previously on LSD, it has come in waves and the hallucinations don't stick around for too long (they come and go). This time was different... I didn't stop hallucinating the whole night. Reality had entirely changed and was at first somewhat enjoyable, then I entered a bad trip. I felt very scared, etc and that I might go full schizophrenic... Time felt to go on forever...

Anyway, I broke down and was crying while tripping out last night, and was crying a little this morning about 8-10 hours after the trip had really kicked in. This whole day I've wanted to sleep but been unable to physically go to sleep (it feels weird, uncomfortable and a little scary the way I start thinking and my thoughts keep spiralling).

Naturally, I'm a very pessimistic person and always see the negative side of things, and can never stop my mind from fixating on negatives, which has really flipped me out. Even writing this, I'm contemplating seeking medical help... I'm genuinely scared for my well being, and that I'm going to be permanently damaged.

I really don't know what to do and I'm pretty scared, please help me...

Hello friend!

You are NOT alone! I had this same kind of experience on LSD, once. 24 hours later I was still in a profoundly different experience of life than I'd ever known, and I was convinced that this was horrible and that I'd ruined myself forever. Please, don't do anything hasty. Get some sleep, consistently, and try and calm your nervous system down with some deep breathing exercises (seriously, it helps!). Inhale for four seconds (one mississippi. . . two mississippi. . .), hold for eight, exhale for eight.

I know how incredibly dramatic and absolute it can feel, but don't take your mind seriously. These substances can reroute your whole perception of life, so it's no wonder that there can sometimes be some difficulty in readjusting, we human beings are creatures of comfort, it's built in that we don't really like change.

It's nothing to panic about, endless amounts of people before you have had similar experiences, you aren't the first. 8)

 

[XaniKi]

It is comforting to hear... Last night I got some sleep, and I feel a bit better today. I've noticed though that the anxiety kind of comes in waves. I'll be fine for a while, then I'll be feeling really terrible. It's making it hard to keep food down (I've only been eating fruit and healthy yogurt since waking up).

 

[Aftermath]

Are you currently delusional and/or hallucinating while sober?

 

[River of Thoughts]

Wait 48hrs and you will be fine. I've had bad trips that have lasted 24hrs. Find someone you really trust and vocalize your thoughts to them, easiest and fastest way to end a bad trip.

 

[still seeking]

hey brother.
sorry to hear your in a state.
many people have had bad trips,and wanna come down.
but you just have to ride it out.
if when you come down you are still feeling bad,maybe just leave the drugs alone for a while.
if you are aware that you may be feeling depressed and low then it is not a good idea to take anything imo.
through personal experience i have tried to deal with negativity,the doctors are only to willing to give you medication that is produced by big pharma.often it can make you worse.
so after several years of taking different medications that made me more ill,i decided to stop,realise who i am,my state of mind and accept it.
still have up,s and downs as we all do,but now i am more comfortable with who i am.
everytime i take something i am not that scared anymore,might want it to stop sometimes,but realise gotta ride the wave.
hope you feel better soon.

 

[Jarl Von Hoother]

Dear Xaniki,

Like everyone said, eat some fruit, drink some water, go jog off the extra energy... take a lukewarm shower meditation period twice while listening to Dark side of the moon.

plan to have a good evening by a fire pit or something to reflect on your feelings

There's no purpose in feeling the way you do
no cave into it, and remember 'its just a drug'

and please agree you'll NEVER EVER do methamphetamine again!

You will be alright for now...

but, people who smoke methamphetamine have been shown to have genetic spikes in aggessiveness, malformed behavior patterns,
meth oxidises plenty of dopamine receptors in your brain each time, not only that, also because of the impact of your central nervous system in what causes methamphetamine induced insomnia everytime you are dropping IQ points like flies

Some drugs are okay... meth is not
anyway relax yourself as much as possible
play some beethoven sonatas

just NEVER touch that nazi drug ever
not that I know what it's like or anything
but, you'll come down, just hang on and ride it out

 

[jamie]

For starters, you need to probly rethink your approach here..staying up all night high on meth and then taking LSD the next day is likely not a good idea in the future. The variable here seems to be the methamphetamine that kept you up all night..sleep deprivation along with methamphetamine burnout can do this..I have known people who smoked methamphetamine often and they had to take GHB at night in order to even sleep, otherwise they would end up strung out from sleep dep..

At least you can relax and realize that you likely just need a few days to rest and let your body reset. Eat good grounding food..eat lots and get lots of sleep and you should be okay.

If you dont come down to a normal confortable state after some reasonable ammount of time than maybe seek some help..but doctors are really the last people I would seek out unless some rest and relaxation will not fix the problem. IME they treat you like some junkie..it is a last resort kind of thing but might be needed..only you can really say.

I would cut out all cannabis, caffine etc from your system for the time being. Build your health and well being back up before anything else.

 

[Enoon]

If your experience has been particularly bad, you may want to, in addition to helping your body recover, also help your mind recover. Try analyzing the nature of the fears you experienced by talking about them or writing them down in a diary for yourself. Use for example free associative writing, meditation or creating art as ways to let your mind relax, disentangle itself and begin the healing process.

Take care, get some more sleep and please next time consider well your mental and physical state (including prior use of other substances) before ingesting psychedelics.

Be well

 

[XaniKi]

I just spoke to my mate who worked in the hospital industry for a few years and saw a lot of things, and he said the way I was flipping out on saturday night was how a lot of people with multiple sclerosis act. (I was crying, rubbing my hands around my head / hair, rubbing my wrist on my head, etc). Does anyone else know anything about that at all?

 

[Pandora]

That sounds like a very odd thing to say to me. Your description sounds like a person dealing with a heavy and difficult psychedelic experience. My body language has been just like yours during difficult experiences . . .

But, if you are at all worried, get yourself checked out.

Hoping things will begin to get more comfortable soon. Please don't be too hard on yourself and do take care of yourself.

 

[XaniKi]

Yeah I'm trying... The timing actually worked out good as I had a week holidays from work happening, so I couldn't have asked for a better time...
I've noticed even 48 hours after dosing, I'm still having random anxiety attacks... :/

Not sure if I mentioned it either, but normally half a tab absolutely decimates me... This time I guess I didn't leave it long enough to see how hard it would hit me, and instead of it hitting me like normal, it was triple the regular "boom!".

That being said, I don't plan on touching drugs anymore, I'm way too scared... Even weed... When I smoke it now I get anxiety / paranoid, so I'm giving that a huge break and going to see how it goes.

 

[shanedudddy2]

Are you certain it wasn't a DOX chemical. After dosing with DOB once, being sold it as LSD, I was quite annoyed...that was after the 24+ hours of tripping hell/wanting to kill myself. :/
Just try and relax, it's easy to say I know, but these feelings will pass.