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What unfolded during a terrifying mushroom trip in Hawaii between 1988 and 1989 would change Terence McKenna’s relationship with psychedelics – and perhaps reshape the message he shared with the world for the rest of his life.

The full account appears in Graham St. John’s biography, Strange Attractor: The Hallucinatory Life of Terence McKenna, based on extensive interviews and archival work.

Prior to this, the episode lived mostly as rumour and vague anecdotes – touched on in Dennis McKenna’s memoir and a Psychedelic Salon conversation with Bruce Damer – summarised as: McKenna had a trip so bad he basically never tripped again. For a man who popularised the “heroic dose,” this rumour bred charges of hypocrisy.

The reality, as usual, is more complicated.

How the Trip Went Down

The crisis arrived during what should have been a routine session in the Hawaiian home he shared with his then-wife, Kathleen Harrison. They took their standard five grams of dried psilocybin and lay down on parallel mats. They had followed this ritual monthly since 1982 and weekly for years before, pausing only during Harrison’s pregnancy. On this night, a subtropical storm hit with unusual force. The metal roof, normally a comforting resonator for rain, became deafening.

Harrison reports entering a familiar ecstatic state, a loosening from bodily and domestic burdens. McKenna, by contrast, found himself dragged into what she calls an “outrageous idea space” – “completely uncontrollable, unexpected, ineffable, dense and spacious nothingness.” She could surrender to ego-loss; he could not. In her phrase, he was “really afraid of nothingness.”

As the storm intensified outside, McKenna’s terror escalated inside. Harrison sensed “something dark and scared” to her left; McKenna was curled in the foetal position, vibrating, howling. When language finally returned, it was heavy and minimal: “No… no meaning.” Variations followed: “nothing means anything,” “impossible.” St. John notes that the experience matches classical accounts of a “dark night of the soul”: a collapse of meaning so complete it presents as an abyss of despair, fitting for a man reared in Irish Catholicism.

And for someone who had argued that psychedelics afford genuine contact with the architecture of reality, an encounter with seeming nihilism was devastating.

Harrison tried strategies that had soothed him before – invoking his late mother, a reliable balm during migraines – but hours would pass before he calmed. The next day, he was “livid,” particularly that Harrison had weathered the same conditions and emerged intact while he was reduced to panic. Terence then drew a hard line: he would never trip with Harrison again. He kept that promise. Dennis McKenna later marked this as the start of Terence’s estrangement from his former plant teachers. The “gentle, wise, humorous mushroom spirit” seemed to have turned on him.

The Immediate Aftermath

After 1988–89, McKenna did not return to mushrooms with his former frequency or bravado. Dennis writes that “he couldn’t deal with it,” that Harrison’s reassurance failed, that “after that experience he very rarely took mushrooms, and he took other psychedelics – such as DMT and ayahuasca – only on rare occasions, and with great reluctance.” The Hawaii trip was not without precedent. Years earlier, McKenna described a specific “place” he would sometimes reach on high-dose psilocybin, which he called “the meatlocker.”

In 1989, speaking at Esalen, he recounted a trip from a few months earlier in which his mental landscape was interrupted by chyrons scrolling across the base of his vision. As he began to read his thoughts displayed before him, he noticed words were misspelt. The text then degenerated into gibberish. He described this as watching his own thoughts “degrade into chaos,” a “visible degradation of meaning.” Elsewhere, he alluded to a Hawaiian trip he simply called “horrible, just horrible.”It also sheds light on why he increasingly preferred to trip alone. Not only did he find others distracting, but his own extreme states could alarm those around him. “I’m sure glad there’s nobody else here to see this,” he reflected, “because… I’m screaming in Urdu, or something.”

In public, though, McKenna continued on occasion to beat the drum for the heroic dose. Harrison and Dennis both identified this as a central contradiction.

In counselling, Harrison pressed him on this gap. He “didn’t want his fans to know that ‘he could be cracked by this thing that he was a master of,’” she said, even while promoting five grams to the inexperienced “without appropriate qualifications on the risks of use.” A further factor was cannabis. Attempts to quit left him feeling stranded in a “horribly profane” world, with a “tremendous narrowing of consciousness.” Substances that once served exploration soon functioned as psychological maintenance. “He just needed to be high on cannabis,” Harrison said. “That was his medicine… what drove everything,” keeping him from “bouncing off the ceiling.”

There were interpersonal and temperamental issues. Harrison observed that McKenna’s cerebral style could bypass tenderness: “I don’t think he ever learned about love and compassion,” she said. “I think he loved his kids and loved me for a while, but I’m not sure he loved himself… he was really afraid of looking at what that means.” Meanwhile, the speaking circuit gathered pace. Through the 1980s, he became a headliner. With success came expectations: constant travel, extended Q&A, and lots more money than he’d enjoyed as an impoverished philosopher and drug dealer in his Berkeley days. Harrison saw his allegiance shifting from family to the public role of psychedelic bard. She would later describe him as a “brilliant narcissist,” whose perfected “rap” had become a prison. The marriage deteriorated and ended bitterly, with heavy emotional and financial costs. As documented in James Kent’s Dose Nation Podcast, Kathleen told Kent that she had become “tired of all the bullshit”.

The timing matters. The late 1980s were a threshold between Cold War certainties and postmodern incredulity. Lyotard’s “incredulity toward metanarratives” became mainstream; inherited meaning-systems (religious, political, philosophical) were widely questioned. Joseph Dewey described an “apocalyptic temper” that intensified as the nuclear standoff receded: a milieu in which McKenna stood as one of culture’s further-out prophets, with his Timewave prophecies increasingly millenarian. Even without the bad trip, the culture around him had shifted.

La Chorrera’s Shadow: Prophetic Authority and Pressure

McKenna’s crisis likewise cannot be separated from the 1971 “experiment at La Chorrera” in the Colombian Amazon, undertaken with Dennis. Days of high-dose psilocybin with minimal sleep produced for the brothers a vision in which mind and matter interpenetrated; the mushroom intelligence – the Logos – could be contacted and consulted. Back in California, Terence told friends, “history’s going to end any day now.” Friends worried they’d “gone off the rails,” and Dennis later conceded they had a point. In The Invisible Landscape, Terence recalled how friends “preferred to reject us,” as everyone behaved “very oddly” relative to baseline.Terence was explicit that psychedelics generate “funny ideas” – some valid, some interesting, many delusional. “You have to look at them objectively… before you can either dismiss them or accept them”, Dennis has said.

Out of La Chorrera came Timewave Zero: an attempt to formalise the vision using the I Ching, mapping cycles of “novelty” and “habit” across history toward a singularity that would collapse ordinary time (later pegged to 2012). The instinct to use the I Ching had come from what Terence received as direct messages from ‘the Logos’ in later mushroom trips, including arbitrary and specific instructions to segment the oracle’s various patterns in denominations he understood as “elements of time”. In the Logos – a name he drew from Ancient Greek philosophy and the Gospel of St. John – McKenna believed he was in touch with a real personality. The same animist conviction underwrote his love of DMT. After early exposures in the mid-1960s, McKenna declared that understanding the drug would form his life’s work. In The Archaic Revival, he called DMT “so much more powerful, so much more alien” than the rest; “the strongest psychedelic there is.” As Vincent Rado notes, McKenna’s DMT rhetoric is inflected by power: it once empowered his commitment and appalled him. He called it an “intellectual black hole” – the more you understand, the less others can understand you – then added, “but I recommend it.”

He could also be blunt about mania. In a Tripzine interview with James L. Kent, he admitted to “taking roomfuls of people prisoner… for up to 14 hours,” calling it “a sign of mania.” Friends hovered “with a net”, suspicious of the veracity of his Timewave ramblings, which he documented on an enormous and scribble-covered scroll. He once remarked, “I consider myself schizophrenic,” though he preferred to frame his states anthropologically (in shamanic terms) rather than psychiatrically.

When Drugs Turn on Their Users

Indeed, one of the most revealing threads in McKenna’s worldview – highlighted later by critics like James Kent – is his tendency to treat psychoactive substances not as inert chemicals but as conscious agents. Across psychedelic subcultures, users often speak of drugs as friends, teachers, or tricksters; as LSD, cannabis, or alcohol “turning on” them. Rather than understand their own interiority, the animist tendency may cause drug users to look outside, at the drug itself.

Ashley Lande, reflecting on her own experiences years later, captured this animistic dynamic with brutal honesty: “LSD was my friend. My mercurial, exhilarating, terrifying, abusive friend.” There are accounts of McKenna being later incapacitated by a single sip of mushroom tea at a London party – apparently ingesting the concentrated residue floating on the surface. He confessed: “I don’t want to become afraid of it.” He likened his situation to a mountaineer nearing retirement: “People who climb Mount Everest… at some point they knock off and become a consultant for a sportswear manufacturer or something.”

In contrast to McKenna's seriousness, figures like Hunter S. Thompson and the Grateful Dead approached these drugs with total intellectual irreverence. While its exponents’ lives were far from exemplary, the Pranksterish strain offered resilience to disappointment and confusion. McKenna, by contrast, staked everything on the consistency and profundity of the “heroic dose” and cosmic revelation, which rendered him especially vulnerable to destabilisation when his expectations were betrayed by the unpredictable, sometimes incoherent reality of altered states. A recreational approach might have spared McKenna some of the psychic agony that followed his “bad trip,” allowing for flexible coping rather than existential collapse.

Public Rhetoric vs Private Reality

The psychological blow of the terror trip came first; the intellectual blow came later.

In the mid-1990s, a young mathematician named Matthew Watkins corresponded with McKenna to discuss flaws in the Timewave Zero calculations, which had metastasised to an ornate pseudo-mathematical computer programme that McKenna believed could finally vectorise his acceptance in the academy as a genius. (While mostly nonsense, McKenna’s colleague Ralph Abraham remarked that Terence had independently discovered certain ideas in chaos theory). They met at the Palenque seminars in 1996. Watkins didn’t arrive as a hostile debunker; he was genuinely curious. Over several friendly conversations, however, he systematically dismantled the mathematics underpinning the theory. Watkins also noticed that the ‘fractals’ now present in McKenna’s graphical constructions were absent in the original formulations from years before, drawing suspicion that the content was changing to fit the raved-up mood of the times.

The timing was difficult. McKenna was suffering from severe migraines, barely able to leave his room. Once back in Hawaii, he posted a formal response on his Hyperborea website, but the encounter clearly shook him. For the first time, someone had challenged his prophetic mathematics on their own terms – and won.

Watkins’s critique came years after the terror trip, so it didn’t cause the initial collapse. But it did deepen McKenna’s scepticism about his own grand narratives. He spent two years in what he called “mathematical hell,” working with physicist John Sheliak to salvage the theory. They could not. By then, the theory’s fate was sealed: it was mathematically baseless.

Performance, Doubt, and the Attention Economy

Despite his growing doubts, McKenna’s public lectures only became more popular. In private, however, he began to admit what he would not say on stage. To Christian Rätsch and Samten Dorje, he reportedly said he didn’t believe in Timewave Zero anymore: “No. But it pays the bills.” In some regards, his situation resembled contemporary media figures like Alex Jones and Russell Brand, who monetise elaborate ideas and suspicions of the establishment, whether or not they privately believe their own words. As Jules Evans points out, in 1990, Terence charged the equivalent of $7,000 per talk. Like Alan Watts decades earlier, who numbed himself with vodka before dazzling audiences with cosmic aphorisms, McKenna found himself trapped in the role of spiritual entertainer. He knew the risks of audience capture but could not entirely escape them.

Terence himself understood this tension. When Ram Dass once told him, “Your life is your message,” Terence famously replied, “My life is a mess. My message is my message.”

This was not helped by the peculiar power of what one could call McKenna’s “loquacity shield.” Terence was, quite simply, dazzlingly articulate. His long, improvised riffs on history, language, drugs, and consciousness often ran for hours, spinning wild ideas into ornate, seemingly coherent narratives. What might have sounded unhinged in the mouth of someone else – visions of self-transforming machine elves, mushroom Logos, and apocalyptic time fractals – became, through McKenna’s eloquence, compelling philosophical entertainment. This articulate mania had protected him since La Chorrera, where what was arguably a shared psychotic episode between two brothers became the foundation of an elaborate metaphysical system. Later in life, this same verbal brilliance insulated him from scrutiny: few could (or wanted to) puncture the spell. McKenna’s linguistic virtuosity allowed him to present what might otherwise have been dismissed as drug-induced madness as if it were high theory.

Into the Memory Hole

For all its significance in McKenna’s life story, little was known of it in detail until St. John’s biography was released on October 7th. Dennis originally included some brief details in the first edition of his memoir. Later editions removed the passage entirely, replacing it with a more muted description of Terence’s growing ambivalence and infrequent use of psychedelics.

Why this quiet deletion?

There are perhaps some practical explanations. As Dennis himself remained active on the psychedelic speaking circuit, highlighting that the prophet of the “heroic dose” had been shattered by one might have handed ammunition to prohibitionists or disillusioned McKenna’s followers. But the deeper reason might lie in the cultural dynamics of psychedelic evangelism. As journalist Jules Evans has noted, “psychedelic spokespeople can be prone to audience capture – their audience tends to be younger people who want to hear how healing, meaningful and fun psychedelics are. They don’t want to hear about bad trips.” Some fans were indeed betrayed by the story on first hearing. “For some, it was as if Luke Skywalker suddenly beheld Master Yoda as a malevolent gremlin”, St. John writes.

What Makes a Bad Trip?

“I am pretty certain he slammed it pre-1990 and earned the right to talk about it in that context,” another commentator wrote on the Psychedelic Salon discussion board. “There is nothing shocking about losing interest in the Mushroom. He just defeated the thing. In the end there was nothing more there to explore from Terence’s point of view.” Although there is no clear evidence that McKenna ever spoke directly about his “terror trip” or integrated lessons from his marriage counselling sessions, he did not shy away from sharing accounts of his difficult experiences in the late 1980s and beyond. Brutal honesty was one of his signature traits, and he often divulged the limits of his own psyche in front of audiences.

He grew increasingly reluctant to serve as a straightforward advocate for mushrooms, noting that they “might not be good for you” and that “there is nothing heroic” about taking them. Yet he continued to valorise the experience of terror itself. “If it doesn’t scare you, it’s not worth doing,” he told audiences. “I will not jump from airplanes, I do not shoot the rapids, I do not rock climb, I’m a bookish person. But I will submit to that terror, because it seems to make sense.” Terror, for McKenna, had its own strange logic. He maintained a heroic attitude toward psychedelics, insisting that “nobody abuses these drugs unless they do too little.”

This dissonance is symptomatic of what Evans calls the “psychedelic religion.” Its central dogma is that psychedelic experiences are inherently meaningful, transformative, and positive. Those who publicly question this – either through critique or through inconvenient personal experiences – risk being ignored, sidelined, or edited out. McKenna’s case is instructive because he wasn’t silenced by external authorities but by the logic of the movement he helped create. The cultural economy surrounding McKenna amplified this dynamic. He was making substantial income from lectures, books, and consultancies – all tied to his role as the witty prophet of the “archaic revival.”

The tragedy and brilliance of Terence McKenna is that this grappling happened in public, under the weight of immense cultural expectation. Most people who experience a shattering bad trip do so in private, integrating the fallout through therapy or spiritual reflection. McKenna had to do it on stage, night after night, while maintaining the persona of someone who had it all figured out.

His loquacity shield could protect him from external challenge, but it could not protect him from the internal collapse triggered by the Hawaii trip.

It’s curious, therefore, that Dennis McKenna has said “there is no such thing as a bad trip”. Recent empirical studies make it impossible to dismiss the existence of truly “bad” psychedelic experiences. In a survey of 613 people who had used classic psychedelics, 8.9% reported functional impairment lasting more than one day, and 2.6% sought medical or psychological assistance following a challenging trip.These numbers may seem small – indeed, the majority report no difficult experiences – but applied across millions of users, they signal a non-negligible risk. Yet even the worst experiences, as merely ‘bad’ as they first appeared, can become ‘challenging’ over time, with negotiation and discernment. Just ask Terence.
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as someone who has dedicated more in purely hours of time to mckennas works than virtually anyone i know, i find this description terribly one sided with a great lack of input from the man in question

people who have nothing to offer to someone whos going through a challenging time in their life often love to bash that person and make it appear as tho there is something "wrong" with them

a behavior seldom seen from terence himself
 
as someone who has dedicated more in purely hours of time to mckennas works than virtually anyone i know, i find this description terribly one sided with a great lack of input from the man in question

people who have nothing to offer to someone whos going through a challenging time in their life often love to bash that person and make it appear as tho there is something "wrong" with them

a behavior seldom seen from terence himself
Idk I mean it seems to mostly be relaying the perspective of his own family and friends who knew him way better than we ever will. His ex wife and brother did many things to try and help him and don't appear to be just in it for bashing him down.

If he knew timewave zero was more or less mathematically disproven while at the same time promoting it, that's not a great look. I can understand still giving talks about psychedelics while taking a step back himself after so many years of work, but it seems hypocritical to never mention such a big step back, and especially to continue to promote the ridiculous 5 gram recommendation which IMO has ruined a lot of people's lives (yeah, it's ultimately their own fault and not his, but it's a silly dosage suggestion IMO and was never done with adequate considerations of harm reduction etc.)

Don't get me wrong I have a lot of love for Terence and consumed everything he put out that I could find, often more than once... but as usual it is, in some ways, a "never meet your heroes" situation. He seems on point about many topics but he's so stunningly eloquent that people fall for even the more outlandish ideas - my teenage self included.
 
well im not refuting any of that

also its probably not a bad idea for people to know about this mega bad trip , i don't think even he was keeping it a secret as he talks about it several times

from my point of view alot of what people have to say about terence rapidly devolves into some kind of monkey talk

in comparison to what you hear him talk about which rarely feels like someone trying to waste your time or a person so chained to their own little world that has nothing of relevance to say to another person who they may not even know, as in the random listener

so to me, it just feels like some people talking shit about someone who has done nothing but treat me , someone he doesn't know exists, like a human being

this is a rare occurrence, have any of these people who have these strong opinions into the circumstance of terence mckenna ever once managed to achieve such feats ? what have they ever provided that was of such value to others?
 
The article resonates with the picture of Terence that I developed. He was his own prisoner in a way. Yes, I enjoyed listening to his talks, yet years later I see the lack of flexibility that psychedelics should have given him. He was caught in his own story loop, imo. I had a friend with a very active mind who was very much into cannabis. This kind of mind is very compelling to listen to, but it has no substantial depth. The depth is there, but it is not at the level they promote. Terence is just a human in the end, like anyone else. When I took him down from the pedestal, my relationship with the guy became much more compassionate. He had many problems and struggled with them for years. Somehow, I can see a scared little child in him now. His bad trip was most likely there by design. It was a crossroad on his path, and he chose a certain direction. We can only look from an outside perspective and take our own lessons from his life. May he find peace and happiness wherever he is now.

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In a sense we are all experiencing the same evolution that Terence went through. Just at different scales and with different story lines and variables.

I can't shake my own constant naïveté-realizations. Every time I come up with something 'profound', it inevitably becomes naïve after enough time has passed.

As if I am to be constantly reminded that everything is just that, a story from the mind. An interpretation of the experience.

The whole of societies grapple with the same 'issue'. What was once normal many years ago, is now considered naïve.

It should come as no surprise then, that with enough time passing, that what we now consider as 'normal' will be naïve in the future.

Which leaves us with the realization that we create own illusion of normal. Crazy, I know.

But also liberating, since we're not 'trapped' or 'betrayed' by our thinking. We can learn to use this illusion-of-normal to create whatever makes us most happy.

Just remember it is all illusion, a master full interpretation of the Experience. So Real that it has to be true. Be mindful and choose that what you would like to Experience and a Story will be formed within the Flux to reflect your Reality back to you.

Therefore, as always, Flux with Joy and enjoy the Flux!

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well im not refuting any of that

also its probably not a bad idea for people to know about this mega bad trip , i don't think even he was keeping it a secret as he talks about it several times

from my point of view alot of what people have to say about terence rapidly devolves into some kind of monkey talk

in comparison to what you hear him talk about which rarely feels like someone trying to waste your time or a person so chained to their own little world that has nothing of relevance to say to another person who they may not even know, as in the random listener

so to me, it just feels like some people talking shit about someone who has done nothing but treat me , someone he doesn't know exists, like a human being

this is a rare occurrence, have any of these people who have these strong opinions into the circumstance of terence mckenna ever once managed to achieve such feats ? what have they ever provided that was of such value to others?
I don't think any of them claim Terence was merely wasting people's time and didn't have anything of relevance to say. In fact, they often cherished many of his insights and overall impact. They're just being honest about their friend/family, and that needn't be so offensive and seen as a threat to his legacy - which still stands pretty impressive even with his flaws that all of us normal human beings have.

I think a reality check for those of us who perhaps too heavily idealized him or took some of his ideas too seriously is a good thing. I had a similar reality check a handful of years ago, but that's a long story.

To call into question their own contributions is a surprising take tbh. I think the life-long contributions from people like Dennis McKenna, Christian Rätsch, and Kathleen Harrison are extensive, but that is besides the point.
 
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I've heard whispers of this over the years. It's interesting to hear a more direct version.
I've also heard that Uncle Terry was pretty deep in the ketamime the last few years in Hawaii. I spent a decent out of time out there interacting with Ram Das and his crew on Maui, and a few people mentioned the ketamime, and described Terrence as "Becoming a Cartoon Character version of himself"
I have to be vague here because of obvious reasons, but I have been very close to a few names in the 5-Meo-DMT space that you would recognize, and the "cartoon character" effect is something I'm seeing more than I'd like.
I think a big vein of research and service is coming into our world, now, and it'll keep coming in the form of elder care.
With the 5 community in particular I've heard the term "reverse neuroplasticity" used to describe folks working with 5 and almost losing skills or aspects of their personality.
I use a agriculture metaphor of planting seeds in a fields.
The metaphor is that 5 "tills" the soil of your mind, opening up space for new ideas and patterns to take root. Like in agriculture, after tilling and seeding, you then water and wait for months to reap the harvest.
If you saw a farmer tilling and seeding, and the doing the same thing again before the seeds have a chance to sprout you'd get the idea I'm trying to explain (admittedly poorly).
I love Terence, but I'd never take him seriously around a lot of things. He's like the uncle we all have who's into crazy shit and is fun to smoke weed with, but we are happy to see go home at the end of the weekend.
He also probably was a victim of being deified by his fans, aka the Jerry Syndrome.

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The metaphor is that 5 "tills" the soil of your mind, opening up space for new ideas and patterns to take root. Like in agriculture, after tilling and seeding, you then water and wait for months to reap the harvest.
If you saw a farmer tilling and seeding, and the doing the same thing again before the seeds have a chance to sprout you'd get the idea I'm trying to explain (admittedly poorly).
I love your metaphor, it perfectly depicts an aspect of psychedelic culture which I think is the most wrong.
I personally call it 'chasing of milligrams' and it's based on an idea that your selfdevelopment is somehow quantifiable by measuring doses or intervals.
5 grams of mushrooms or tripping every week are good examples of that.
It's not weightlifting.
 
(What follows is not to claim the information itself is not interesting or relevant, it's a comment on the issue of idolization. It's also not directed at anyone in particular or even here, but at the people who display the behavior of disparaging their former idols upon finding them not perfect)

I don't understand. I've never listened to McKenna much. I did read "Food of the Gods" and found it to be interesting speculations.

Assuming I had listened to hours of his talks and found them valuable, why would any of this make a difference? Why would a good talk lead to the one talking being idolized as something beyond just a good speaker?

I have listened to many hours of Watts, mentioned in the article, and I don't see how his many human defects make his talks any less valuable. If I give what I think it's good advice to someone else, it's likely going to be something I aspire to live up to, but in practice often fail to do well. How is that surprising?

It seems cruel in a way. Elevating someone else to a status no one can't live up to, and then getting angry at the person and rejecting what you found valuable before upon realizing they are, in fact, human. You elevated them, so it's your responsibility and no one else's. Realize you made a mistake instead of in a way keeping that person superhuman by attributing your actions to them, particularly if you didn't even meet the person. They are neiher god nor the devil, that's just you longing for something that doesn't exist.

When we are little children, parents appear all powerful to us. We can't reconcile their good sides and their bad sides as being just a human, so we split them in a godly part and a demon-like part. Then, we grow up an realize that that was our own doing.

Idolizing someone as a teenager makes sense for this very reason, as our actual parental figures crumble and we look for a substitute. Hopefully we grow up eventually and realize it was our own doing, instead of making the former idol into a demon before latching onto a new God the Father substitute. Which will eventually be found not so godly as well, and so the cycle continues.

So yeah, shocking revelation, McKenna was a human with weaknesses, inconsistencies, and defects. I'm not saying the information in itself is not interesting: it is, in the way that the lives of people prominent in a field are. But to make an idol out of clay and, upon finding out it's indeed a statue, getting angry and claiming that it must be demonic because it "made" you worship it, makes no sense. If you idolized someone and are older than 20, learn from your mistake and let it go. Assume responsibility for your actions.
 
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I felt more at odds with Mckenna maybe 8 years ago. I read everything he wrote like they were sacred texts, listened to all his lectures over and over( I still do sometimes). I probly listen to the true hallucinations audio book every year.

I don’t really agree with his dosing advice although I did follow it briefly with mushrooms and don’t regret it. Some of his farther out claims are bullshit and the time wave thing was never that interesting. I’ve never seen a self transforming machine elf. If I told Mckenna how I approach things he probly wouldn’t have agreed with it.

Generally though I can’t remove who I am from the influence he had on me. I think a lot of his assessment of society is accurate and it’s sad that such bright people feel the need to either grift in the shadow of some bs or join the farm pretty much. It’s a pessimistic view but denying it feels inauthentic.

I almost can’t blame people for just choosing what’s familiar and comfortable enough.

Perfection is probly an illusion. Just appreciate Terrence for what he was and is because we are all kinda fucked up.
 
Dennis frequently talks about his brother's perspective on psychedelics, and points out that for him, these substances were not a means to heal oneself, but a form of epistemology, a way of learning about the universe. This seems to be echoed by what Kathleen said:
Harrison observed that McKenna’s cerebral style could bypass tenderness: “I don’t think he ever learned about love and compassion,” she said. “I think he loved his kids and loved me for a while, but I’m not sure he loved himself… he was really afraid of looking at what that means.”

Despite taking these substances for so many years, he never seems to have found self-love and instead ended up with a very broad and mostly quite interesting catalog of ideas about what, why and how. To deny that those ideas had a massive impact on me in my psychedelic infancy stage would be a shameless lie. I too, like @Jamie01, consumed hundreds of hours of his lectures and found so much fascination in them, despite never taking anything he said to heart. The idea of the universe being a complexity generator is something that appealed to me a great deal, and in some ways still does. But he did have some pretty ridiculous ideas too.

Dennis often mentions on his podcast how he was one of the very few people in his audiences that regularly stood up and challenged his ideas, flat out calling bullshit to some of them, and he noted how Terry never liked that, and used his "loquacity shield" to shift the moment elegantly without looking like a fool on stage. It's something he was indeed very good at, probably better than most people in the world.

Terence is just a human in the end, like anyone else. When I took him down from the pedestal, my relationship with the guy became much more compassionate.
100% this. Reading accounts like this one puts into perspective that he was just as fucked up as the rest of us (perhaps more so than many, but still). To see his legacy through this lens is comforting in a way, because it strips him from the godhood that some people have burdened him with, and reveals him as just another human being with beautiful, weird, and sometimes straight up insane ideas.

I will always love listening to him though. It's impossible to detach myself from the effect he's had on who I am today. Thanks for sharing this, really interesting read.
 
I probly listen to the true hallucinations audio book every year.
I'm so thankful that the audio book was my intro to him (on my 17th birthday, while stoned on purple haze no less). True Hallucinations really is one of the best adventure stories I've ever read, and the audio book is even better. I also obviously resonate a lot with the power of the ole' sound/mushrooms/sleep deprivation combo that they stumbled upon, of course :p😵‍💫
 
This part of the article didn't sit well with me:
As Jules Evans points out, in 1990, Terence charged the equivalent of $7,000 per talk

Yes, and he presumably received money from selling books, too. It seems like a good way to earn a living for someone that was very good at talking and writing. And he was successful: I could charge the same as he did per talk (or just charge at all, or just give talks), but no one would be willing to pay me for it.

Presumably the author of this piece receives a payment from the research chemicals company he writes for. How is that a problem? I could only see it being a problem if his articles advocated strongly for or against research chemicals and he didn't disclose that fact. But it doesn't seem to be the case.

Now, I understand that the implication is that he was basically lying for money. Alan Watts described himself as a "philosophical entertainer", and I think McKenna fits that role too. I'm not too familiar with him: did he claim to be something beyond that? If he did, I could understand being upset he didn't personally believe some of what he claimed but, if he didn't, it would be as getting mad upon discovering Red Riding Hood is actually absent from the historical record (and this doesn't mean that the tale, as all tales, doesn't hold an aspect of truth).
 
I also wanted to point out the OP quoted comment left by this unnamed person on some discussion somewhere on the internet:
“There is nothing shocking about losing interest in the Mushroom. He just defeated the thing. In the end there was nothing more there to explore from Terence’s point of view.”

This sentiment doesn't resonate with me at all. If anything, I would argue exactly the opposite - due to the nature of this difficult experience, I would rather conclude there is a lot more to explore before putting the kibosh on it all. It would serve as a hint that I am missing something obvious, that my focus is in the wrong place, and if I chose this particular experience to conclude that I've somehow turned out to be the only person in the history of mankind to have "seen it all" then that would serve as further evidence that I've missed the point and need to take a step back and carefully reevaluate.

From where I stand, "defeating" the "thing" is an absurd idea when talking about psychedelics. If I draw on my particular experiences in peeling the proverbial onion, a finish line simply doesn't exist, the hole just keeps getting deeper. I might be wrong of course, and if I manage to reach the end of the hole, if I peel off the last layer of the onion, I'd be sure to stop by the Nexus and let y'all in on the secret at the end of time ;)
 
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