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lye solution containment - the container's lid

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WEM

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I have a bit of an interesting question, not really sure how valid it is but here it goes:

It appears to me that when the method of extraction requires lye, that your best bet is glass, makes sense to me, except one aspect. During extraction, it requires shaking the container to distribute the plant matter, and rolling it around after the solvent is added to avoid emulsions, and during those periods, the lye solution is in direct contact with the lid of the container.

As most glass containers don't have glass lids, does it really matter what kind of lid it has? I'm not asking on whether or not the lid should snap shut or be threaded (I'd say threaded), but the material that it's made of. What kind of material is your glass container's lid made from? Plastic? Metal? Anyone notice if the lye began to eat away at the interior surface of the lid (even though lye wasn't in contact with it for that long)?
 
Like already said Al foil is a bad idea.
Icon said:
Lye is nasty and not even something you should worry about using. There are much less toxic bases that you could work with. Lye eats away even at glass I believe. It's burned and scratched multiple mason jars and a sep. funnel of mine.
And Lye (NaOH) is not "more toxic" than pickling lime (Ca(OH)2). Both chemicals are definetly not something you should eat but they also wont kill you if ingest some. Both chemicals are used extensively in food processing and they both can be bought in food grade quality, possibly even in medical quality.

The danger comes from the fact they are caustic. They are NOT toxic. Especially concentrated and/or hot solutions will damage skin. But thats mostly only the outer layer and if you wash it off quickly you wont even damage your skin. (Hence the reason why when im in the university lab no one wears gloves except in rare cases. Common fallacy for people to wear gloves when the gloves do more harm than good)

Also NaOH does NOT attack plastics. That comes exclusively from the NPS like naptha or whatever you use.
NaOH does attack glass but thats not really something that happends in aqueous solutions. You do need to have a fully concentrated solution that is boiling hot to even attempt to deal visible damage to glass. Also borosilicate is dissolved by NaOH as well. Borosilicate glass doesnt have a much higher chemical resitance but it has waaay more heat and temperature shock resistant.

For use as a bottle I recommend any glass bottle really. For a cap I recommend any cap and just buy a PTFE sheet and make an insert. This will hold up to nps and NaOH forever.
 
Ulim said:
For use as a bottle I recommend any glass bottle really. For a cap I recommend any cap and just buy a PTFE sheet and make an insert. This will hold up to nps and NaOH forever.

That's a really interesting idea. Can you elaborate a bit on how you would do the insert. I am not sure I really understand; Like how does the screw cap still fit in with this insert?

Would something like this work? Or is it not enough when it is 'PTFE coated'? PTFE belagd glasväv - standard - sluten väv
 
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