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MDMA muscle tension advice

I feel like these days I can’t even tolerate mescaline at all. I just sit there with my stomach cramping grinding my teeth with a stiff neck and end up laying in the bathtub with nsaids. 2cb was nice but still last time I tried same thing happened so I just stopped taking phens but I will keep taking MDMA 1-2 times a year because it’s so worth it. I really love mdma.
Have you tried combining mescaline with psilocybin? I’ve only done that once, but it seemed to smooth out the rough edges of mescaline, while intensifying the psychedelic effects.
 
Yeah once. It was a long night in a tent and pretty awesome but I still needed ibuprofen in the morning.

Now that I am thinking back about stuff my favourite thing to do about 10 years ago was a mescaline/MDMA combo.
 
I would take a light dose of mescaline and 3-4 hours in take the mdma. I don’t remember how much and didn’t always have time or care to weigh out doses but the mdma dose was low too like probly 100mg or less.

I liked it more than LSD with MDMA which I also enjoy. There was more color with mescaline and it was somewhat less heady…I don’t really know what to say it was just like rolling for hours and hours on end in colourful 4D bliss. I only ever did it at forest raves and festivals so I was up dancing and socializing the whole time.

I don’t notice physical side effects so much if I am dancing all night. Sitting at home on that combo I would probly feel a lot of tension and my arthritis would become a focus. I can take a light dose of mescaline and surf or snowboard all day too without noticing it being a big issue. Maybe mescaline is better for me with physical activity.
 
I would take a light dose of mescaline and 3-4 hours in take the mdma. I don’t remember how much and didn’t always have time or care to weigh out doses but the mdma dose was low too like probly 100mg or less.

I liked it more than LSD with MDMA which I also enjoy. There was more color with mescaline and it was somewhat less heady…I don’t really know what to say it was just like rolling for hours and hours on end in colourful 4D bliss. I only ever did it at forest raves and festivals so I was up dancing and socializing the whole time.

I don’t notice physical side effects so much if I am dancing all night. Sitting at home on that combo I would probly feel a lot of tension and my arthritis would become a focus. I can take a light dose of mescaline and surf or snowboard all day too without noticing it being a big issue. Maybe mescaline is better for me with physical activity.
That sounds incredible. I’ve only done MDMA twice in my life, and would like to explore it more. I took low doses both times and had a relaxed/blissed-out type of experience both times with zero hangover, but more of an afterglow effect.
 
I should clarify that the effects I am referring to not noticing while being physically active are simply irritating. I have arthritis and IBD and mescaline, LSD to some extent and even psilocybin can trigger the irritation. Mostly it’s cramps in my stomach and colon and this feeling almost like I have hives inside my guts. I think it’s in part due to histamine but can’t be sure. Mescaline does it pretty much always but like I said simply being distracted surfing or dancing usually makes it irrelevant. Laying still I might want to jump out if my skin and take a Benadryl.

I will still however have a headache and need an nsaid the next day no matter what I did…but I have noticed that often the result of laying in one position for hours on my bed tripping has it’s own way of ruining my neck.

Vaped DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and ketamine are the ones that lack this annoying histamine like effect so far. I’m pretty happy with that because I like those 3.
 
Mesc (any > light amount) always gives headaches at the tail end of the trip (back of the forehead pain), that and some nausea on oral routes are the only downsides. MDMA (only when lots of it) at the near end and maybe the day after gives headaches due to teeth clenching (usually the side that clenched most, a side of the head pain) and eye fluttering (nystagma, back of the eye pain).

I deeply cherish those painful moments, these at least have a reason to be and were my choices. From someone that has lived at least 4 days a month chronic spontaneous headaches since childhood and went through so many doctors just shrugging, choosing my headache is a luxury and really are just tiny mishaps right after to glorious moments.

Tryptamines always clear my headaches if present and the week after. In fact, I got into mushrooms way way back because of the claim it can treat migraines, I can testify it works.
 
Mesc (any > light amount) always gives headaches at the tail end of the trip (back of the forehead pain), that and some nausea on oral routes are the only downsides. MDMA (only when lots of it) at the near end and maybe the day after gives headaches due to teeth clenching (usually the side that clenched most, a side of the head pain) and eye fluttering (nystagma, back of the eye pain).

I deeply cherish those painful moments, these at least have a reason to be and were my choices. From someone that has lived at least 4 days a month chronic spontaneous headaches since childhood and went through so many doctors just shrugging, choosing my headache is a luxury and really are just tiny mishaps right after to glorious moments.

Tryptamines always clear my headaches if present and the week after. In fact, I got into mushrooms way way back because of the claim it can treat migraines, I can testify it works.
My partner and I used to keep a changa joint around and take a single little hit if we ever had the rare headache. Cleared it instantly everytime. Pretty remarkable
 
For me, the best way to avoid headache with mescaline is to have some light food and any caffeine drink 4 hours into the experience.
Absolutely amazing... It works. Did a big cup of coffee 3 hours in and got absolutely zero headaches at the tail end and day after. Nice tip Doubledog, you just made it more perfect than it already is.

Now, is that because mesc makes my coffee dependency exacerbate and so I get cravings headache which resolve on caffeine intake or mesc itself causes the headache for which caffeine is analgesic? Would it also work for mdma?
 
I would say that mescaline itself is causing it as I am not very dependent on caffeine and still got headaches without it. However, my reason for it is not to avoid headaches, but the synergy with mescaline it provides. Euphoric effects of caffeine combined with mescaline are perfect. As I do not like caffeine on empty stomach, I always have to eat something light.
 
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How did it pan out with the comedown?

I've found 5-HTP to help a lot, to the extent that, for example, on one particular Glastonbury festival I was able to carry on with nightly MDMA (and, er, whatever) doses, followed by munching 5-HTP for breakfast, lunch and dinner (accompanied by wholesome, fresh plant-based meals, ofc). Those were an exceptional few days, except nowadays that kind of behavior would probably finish me off for good.

Both Mrs T and I find magnesium supplementation to be highly effective in ameliorating day-to-day muscle tension but MDMA hasn't been involved in that situation for many years.
 
How did it pan out with the comedown?
It was very gentle. The day itself the only comedown as such was the disappearance of the effects, nothing negative. The next day I had a strong afterglow, and the four days after that I was a bit tired mentally, but otherwise in excellent mood. I imagine this was partly due to the fact the dose was not too high.

I've found 5-HTP to help a lot, to the extent that, for example, on one particular Glastonbury festival I was able to carry on with nightly MDMA (and, er, whatever) doses, followed by munching 5-HTP for breakfast, lunch and dinner (accompanied by wholesome, fresh plant-based meals, ofc).
I may try it at some point just out of curiosity. We intend to leave at least 12 weeks between doses and keep the doses moderate, so I suppose next time it won't be worse than the first. It was clear to me that it has a lot of potential for fun, but the benefits we got at an emotional level and for our relationship were so valuable that we really want to protect them. 2C-B and low dose LSD can fulfill fun requirements quite well :D
 
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