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Memorable quotes from DMT-Nexus (no chat quotes please)

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gibran2 wrote:
DMT allows us to become aware of our participation in the divine eternal mystery.

No need for equations, formulas, quantum mechanics, tachyons, theories of anything or theories of everything. Human beings have limited cognitive capacity - there are some things that are simply beyond our grasp and understanding.

Accept this.
 
vovin said:
But remember this is a place of text, a digital realm. What you say must be examined. While you may mean one thing, we cannot see your face we cannot know the person that is you from 26 letters. Things can be misconstrued, they can appear to be something other than what you mean.

vovin said:
This is not your common forum, of all the 'drugs' one can take this is one of the very few that many consider different.It is the pinnacle of mind alteration, the responsibility of this site to show the world that this is not a place of drug addicts looking to bake their minds and become a burden to society. It is here that we must stand and remove the stigma of our way. The price of this is the necessity that we maintain our philosophical and spiritual persona. We must be 'uppity' as we seek to establish an understanding that this is not a means of escape but a serious undertaking. It is not a recreational drug that will make you the cool guy at parties.

vovin said:
In the end this is a forum not about DMT, but the search for something more. The Nexus is 10% about extraction, 90% about dealing with what comes after your first breakthrough. DMT is only a step on a journey that will take a lifetime.

۩ said:
When you start losing it and thinking DMT is this and that, you need to go sit out in a meadow and listen to some cows for a while.
 
Man, this thread is incredible. I could probably fill a composition book with all the insightful and inspiring sentiments I have come across on this forum. Here are a few of my favorites, from the ones I have recorded thus far. Some are funny, some are very meaningful to me, others are both. :)

jdubs said:
I think opiate addiction stems from an inability to deal with the chattering brain. Learning to accept that it is what happens, it is the nature of conciousness (to us unenlightened ones, at least). Maybe channeling what that brings into productivity, is the key to overcoming it. Its kind of like running away from growing up, and opiates are there to avoid dealing with life. LIfes pretty good (mostly), so just drop the opiates man, and the greatest rewards you shall recieve...

corpus callosum said:
...lie back as your reality fragments in a most alarming fashion

Antrocles said:
The Seicoya elders have a strong belief that one should strive with great effort to be the EMBODIMENT of their journeys...not the ORATOR. That to talk about your visions is to "give them away" , losing the potential of allowing the lessons to absorb into the very DNA of the traveler. "Talk is cheap", in a thick jungle spanish dialect that resounds through me to this day. "Wait at least a year before you speak to anyone about what you were shown."

jbark said:
The saddest thing about me, arguably, is the steadfast belief that I believe in nothing. Could I believe otherwise, believe me I would.

dreamer042 said:
Apparently both reality and ego are fully soluble in a gaseous vapor of n,n-dimethyltryptamine. Who knew?

Gibran2 said:
If I have a headache, I have a headache. It doesn't matter if the explanation is dilating blood vessels in my brain, or muscle spasms in my shoulders, or 'stress', or psychological distress, or invisible demons pounding mallets on my brain. We don't call some headaches 'headaches' and others 'apparent headaches'. There is no such thing as an 'apparent' headache. Likewise, a mystical experience is defined as such based on the characteristics of the experience, not the source or explanation of the experience. So whether the source is 'outside' or 'inside', whether we explain the experience in mechanistic terms or not, it is still a mystical experience. There is no such thing as an 'apparent' mystical experience.
 
Pandora said:
To me hyperspace has a shape of perfection. As I mentioned fairly recently, it is something that is smaller than a Higgs Boson, larger than the known Universe and fits in the space of my poor rounded yet lumpen skull. It is pure life and pure death. It is ultimate Heaven and horrific unimaginable Hell. It is a drop of water and the limitless universes within. It is the alienness of the self and the self attempted to be found within the unutterably alien. Exposure to it changes everything, . . . . and yet nothing has changed. Growth is found in new understandings of my smallness and the path to that personal growth, though radically laid out in hyperspace, can truly only be achieved when in the baseline integration space. etc.
 
Guyomech said:
"Integration" means, in a nutshell, that you've done something with your experience. Write about it, draw or paint about it, mountain bike about it. You'll keep recalling small things from the experience that will slot nicely into your day to day life. Trip again too soon and this stuff just gets paved over by the more recent trips.

Really liked this explanation.
 
Sorry, I accidentally posted this in the wrong section,

dropthemillstone said:
I was made aware that all humans are in a massive cycling thing which can best be described as a wheel. The wheel is fueled by our fears and yearning desires. We are all of us sort of sliding toward the center of the wheel which is liberation from suffering. The more we resist, the longer and more painful the journey. The more we release our petty preferences and give in to LOVE the more exhilarating and light the journey. It all seemed so obvious. Another part of the message was that WE WILL ALL GET THERE. ...This wheel was terrifying, but all I could think for a time was how can I get back in it. Simultaneously, I became aware of an interpenetrating layer - if you will - that I could access by calming my fear and accepting what was happening. It was a sense of floating in deep space. ...My mind was so crystal clear. Gone where the petty thoughts about this or that drudgery! I was absolutely free of suffering. I have never in my life experienced that before. My clear mind turned toward my dwarfed personality and regarded it with humorous affection. It seemed to inquire of me why I would give myself such a hard time in life. "You are good." It seemed to say. It was as if some higher me was sending an incomprensible, vast love toward a lower me. Like a loving parent does toward a child.

このポストがこの時いかなるポストにも優って私の心に力ず良く迫って来たのであった。

This post touched me deeply. More than I could express in English.
 
soulfood said:
There's just something about MDMA that feels a little last night on earth hedonistic, whereas Mescaline is like feeling your body for the first time. To classify it logically I guess I'm saying that mescaline is very true to it's phenethylamine structure, whereas MDMA went to college and got its phen-diploma but fell in with a gang of meth-heads who told him that they loved him but quickly left him for dead due to his shorter half-life and the poor chaps been in denial ever since. He's cool and all, but he lacks a degree of self respect. Loves everyone but himself :)


For the record I do really like MDMA. In the test of time and reliability it's probably my number 1 :)

:lol:
 
jamie said:
I am talking about open to expression. Authentic expression. If someone is not open to another persons authenticity, and is not able to at least strive towards being energetically open to they're own authenticity, then being with them will never leave me feeling fulfilled. I dont want to have to lie, I dont want to have to hide etc..In turn, you cannot expect another to want to do what you do unless they really want to do what you do.

Otherwise 10 years later you might find yourself in a loveless, sexless marriage after the tension erodes what little was there to begin with. Who wants that?

At the best we can hope that we can learn more about how we express ourselves in the world, from all the failed relationships. It's the lies we live that hurt us the most. There is nothing like asking yourself "am I happy?", and knowing each day you tell yourself a lie. It is heartbreaking. Happiness is imperative to healthy functioning. This includes healthy relationships. This kind of true happiness only comes ime when an individual is not suppressed and so fulfilled within they're own authentic being. If two people can come together, and have it together enough to be able to support each other in that process fully, then they have something very few in this world seem to have.

That is my opinion.
 
Street Value of DMT (AND WHY YOU SHOULDN'T EVER SELL DMT)

acolon_5 said:
soulfood said:
What's the street value of love?

Priceless.

"A man that cannot share his habits has no business having them" - Roland of Gilead

Selling Spice is wrong on so many different levels. Don't do it, ever, for any reason. Show people how to extract if they are trustworthy and are able to handle the spice, encourage knowledge. If one wants to sell drugs, as much as I think it is a stupid idea, go sell crack or meth or something, never something as sacred and special as spice.

You spent $100 on materials...great! If you do an extraction you will have spice that you yourself can try and share with your closest friends. If you find that you enjoy the experience, or gain something from it and want to repeat it you will have the equipment to extract more!

I won't lock or delete this thread simply because of the enormous outcry that it caused.

Other mods may feel differently, but I think it should stay.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
MelCat said:
Hiyo Quicksilver said:
... I've spoken to people who have smoalked DMT regularly for years, and they're still terrified every time.

Nifty mantras, higher or lower doses, clever "explanations" of unconcious processes and all these other things can help, and you may find that they solve your problems... but the real way out of your fear is simply strength and courage.

First off, the sensations you feel, see, hear, etc are all going to be much more intense than your normal experience. This is the nature of the game. Just get in it and dig it, and the good stuff will happen. You will be just fine when you get back, eardrums and all. I promise.

Face your weakness, come to terms with what you are and what will happen to you upon smoalking, and continue forth not scared doubtful but strong and confident. Not only will it make your uneasy feelings completely meaningless, but when you start from a stable and strong position, the trip literally is far more positive, far more gratifying and if anything unpleasant should come up, you have at your disposal the faculties to overcome it with grace and dignity.

Strength of spirit, courage and self-responsibility are pretty much nonexistent in today's sissy, scared intellectual culture. There's no reason to feel bad about your feelings or take it personally, but do be mindful of your feelings and take them as an indicator of what is going on within yourself. Transformation is not a subtle process that you sit and watch, it's something you do.

You can sit shivering in your boots until you toke, shut up your soul and recite self help mantras as the drug takes hold and "try to maintain" until you're dropped into hyperspace and treated like a gawking child...
Or you can be strong like you know darn well you can be, and stand up to what's facing you with courage and acceptance, and be an active participant in the experience with the ability to shape what happens and the wherewithall to interact with it as an equal.

Whichever you choose, good luck and Happy Travels.
Hg

From - Smoking spice scares the hell out of me!!!

GOLD
 
universecannon said:
Vocalizations and mantras of all sorts can be an extremely useful paddle to help ride those inner oceans, as can mudras and rythmic flowing auto-movements guided by heart-pulsed intentions. :)
 
From dmstr8's goodbye thread

purges said:
M8, Dmstr8, it's not too l8! It can be tough to integr8 and assimil8. Don't let the horse bolt out of the g8! Stick around, it'll be just gr8! If you leave, my mood will defl8! We are in a womb of sorts, let us gest8! A mission to other solar systems, we must formul8!

Don't leave Dmstr8, it's not too l8, m8. What we had was gr8...
 
DesykaLamgeenie said:
Right there is something that I think is very important to talk about. Not that you brought something back with you, but that that thing you're perceiving as something separate from yourself is not separate from yourself - rather, it is you without your baggage. It is you closer to the true nature of yourself than the you that you suppose yourself to be in your daily life. I suggest welcoming that awareness and identifying with it - feel it as yourself. Allow your awareness to expand or move into that perspective without it needing to be something else just because it's so unfamiliar.

If you define it as something else, it will appear as something else and you will believe it and enforce it sunconsciously, effectively walling yourself in to your current perspective. It is a blessing to be able to move into that perspective - failing to acknowledge this is going on is missing out on something huge about yourself, consciousness and life in general.

[I've read many people who experience it in the way you mention which is why I think it's very misconception to clear up in the community. It's not a rare thing for people to perceive certain aspects of the experience as things external/separate from themselves. I'm not saying there aren't entities that are separate from us, but that there are levels of awareness along the spectrum of our multidimensional existence that can seem separate from us when really they are another level of ourselves.]
 
nathaniel dread said:
That said, the whole idea that we're engaged in 'logical' or 'rational' debate is kind of absurd. Cognitive science has found so many cognitive biases and quirks of cognition that the idea that we're engaged in some kind of pure, rational discourse is almost impossible. I would say the entire idea of 'Philosophical Reason,' is patently useless, and more of a way to lend artificial weight to one's ideas than it is any useful path to truth. We all may as well be cave men hitting each other with sticks.
 
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