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MHRB: Tepescohuite vs Jurema
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xx13w7xx
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Hmm... The botanical shop I bought my MHRB from is labeling it as Mimosa hostilis (Tepescohuite) Bark.
Then in the description "High Quality Pink/Purple Mimosa Hostils Inner Root Bark"
Is there still DMT in this or am I just going to waste my time with it?
Then in the description "High Quality Pink/Purple Mimosa Hostils Inner Root Bark"
Is there still DMT in this or am I just going to waste my time with it?
VisualDistortion
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xx13w7xx said:
It probably has an alkoloid content, but not as good as jurema. Some botanical suppliers use terms interchangeably. iamshaman advertises A. colubrina as yopo, when in reality yopo is A. Penegrina.
xx13w7xx
Rising Star
Also I'm looking at Erowid at the common names for MHRB and it posts [Mimosa; Jurema Preta (M. tenuiflora), Jurema Branca (M. verrucosa), Jurema Vermelha/Embira (M. ophthalmocentra)]
Looks like Tenuiflora is Jurema?
I think they are all just different names personally... Anyone else have anymore insight to this topic?
Looks like Tenuiflora is Jurema?
I think they are all just different names personally... Anyone else have anymore insight to this topic?
VisualDistortion
Rising Star
You could be right. I'm not a botanist so I couldn't give you a for sure answer.
xx13w7xx
Rising Star
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"Mimosa tenuiflora (Jurema, Tepezcohuite) is a perennial evergreen tree or shrub native to the northeastern region of Brazil (Paraíba, Rio Grande do Norte, Ceará, Pernambuco, Bahia) and found as far north as southern Mexico (Oaxaca and coast of Chiapas).[3] It is most often found in lower altitudes, but it can be found as high as 1000 m"
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en.wikipedia.org
"Mimosa tenuiflora (Jurema, Tepezcohuite) is a perennial evergreen tree or shrub native to the northeastern region of Brazil (Paraíba, Rio Grande do Norte, Ceará, Pernambuco, Bahia) and found as far north as southern Mexico (Oaxaca and coast of Chiapas).[3] It is most often found in lower altitudes, but it can be found as high as 1000 m"
Source
Mimosa tenuiflora - Wikipedia
lowjackal
PuddinTane
Yeah KT botanical had their mimosa hostilis labeled as (jurema) for a long while. Then they changed the jurema in parenthesis to (Tepescohuite) . But with all the same advertisements about the product and the same prices.
Go figure. The last 227g I got gave a poor quality product and the yield sucked too.
Swim is trying a 454g. order and hopes that they send the better bark. Not the shit with the outer tree bark on it. Thats a sign of a poor quality bark. It best be all inner pink/purple bark like they have showing on their website or Swim will refuse the crap and return it without a second thought. Paypal is lovely about refunds. I advise seekers of good bark to only deal with vendors who accept paypal.
Go figure. The last 227g I got gave a poor quality product and the yield sucked too.
Swim is trying a 454g. order and hopes that they send the better bark. Not the shit with the outer tree bark on it. Thats a sign of a poor quality bark. It best be all inner pink/purple bark like they have showing on their website or Swim will refuse the crap and return it without a second thought. Paypal is lovely about refunds. I advise seekers of good bark to only deal with vendors who accept paypal.
[quote='Coatl]Mimosa tenuiflora = Tepescohuite
Mimosa hostilis = Jurema
Mimosa hostilis is better. Always go with it.
[/quote]
What is the difference between m.hostilis and M.teunuiflora? I thought they are synonyms. How someone can identify one from the other?
Mimosa hostilis = Jurema
Mimosa hostilis is better. Always go with it.
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What is the difference between m.hostilis and M.teunuiflora? I thought they are synonyms. How someone can identify one from the other?
Mimosa hostilis is the same as Mimosa tenuiflora.
They have white flowers
The thing is, it seems that many vendors have been selling Mimosa verrucosa instead, which has a different colour of flower (yellow I think?).
Entropymancer (where is he?) covered this beautifully in his Jungle Spice information article, in the chapter "Botanical Confustication"
by the way, Mimosa ophthalmocentra, which was also mentioned, is a completely different tree. It doesnt have thorns like the hostilis. There is a published paper about it having 1,6% DMT if im not mistaken, I can even try to find it if someone is interested (or do a search, im sure it comes up). I have some seeds of both ophthalmocentra and hostilis from a friend that lives there in the mimosa birthplace..
I only tried growing them once, just put it straight in some rich earth and sprayed some water regularly, but NONE came out, and I must have tried like 30 seeds... I gotta change my approach. Any suggestions? These mimosas are from very dry areas, and are in general very tough plants that resist living till the end. Maybe I over-watered ? but then again, I guess seeds do need this initial wetness in general, right?
They have white flowers
The thing is, it seems that many vendors have been selling Mimosa verrucosa instead, which has a different colour of flower (yellow I think?).
Entropymancer (where is he?) covered this beautifully in his Jungle Spice information article, in the chapter "Botanical Confustication"
by the way, Mimosa ophthalmocentra, which was also mentioned, is a completely different tree. It doesnt have thorns like the hostilis. There is a published paper about it having 1,6% DMT if im not mistaken, I can even try to find it if someone is interested (or do a search, im sure it comes up). I have some seeds of both ophthalmocentra and hostilis from a friend that lives there in the mimosa birthplace..
I only tried growing them once, just put it straight in some rich earth and sprayed some water regularly, but NONE came out, and I must have tried like 30 seeds... I gotta change my approach. Any suggestions? These mimosas are from very dry areas, and are in general very tough plants that resist living till the end. Maybe I over-watered ? but then again, I guess seeds do need this initial wetness in general, right?
That was my understanding. DNA barcoding taxonomists group Mimosa hostilis and tenuiflora as the same species according to extreme similarities across many different types of genes.endlessness said:
But it is not necessary that they are indeed the same. DNA analysis can be sometimes misleading. I just thought that Coatl had more to say on the subject if he discriminates between them.