Yakub
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Last night was my second attempt at tripping with mimosa hostilis and Syrian rue, and once again, I failed to notice any psychedelic effects.
A couple of weeks ago, I obtained 50g of MHRB and 3g of 10:1 Syrian rue extract [[redacted by mod]]. I did 3 pulls with about a liter of water and a squirt of spirit vinegar, each time simmering it down to about 250ml. Because I'd read about the high tannin content and its nauseating effects, I wanted to mitigate this as much as possible, so I let the brew sit overnight in the fridge and then used an eggwhite to purify it further. I then (perhaps overzealously) simmered it down further until I was left with about 100ml of concentrated brew. Expecting it to taste awful, I wanted to ingest as little of it as possible.
Around 21:00, I took one gelcap of about 300mg of the Syrian rue and waited around 45 minutes before taking my first shot of the mimosa brew. After 20min, nothing, so I drank some more. I can't remember the exact timeline, but I ended up drinking about half the brew over a couple of hours and purging once.
I assumed I'd somehow removed all the DMT by somehow binding it to the eggwhite and throwing it away, and that I'd perhaps overboiled it and cooked off the rest, so I ordered some more MHRB along with 50g of acacia confusa root bark.
For my second attempt at brewing the mimosa, I cooked 25g of the finely powdered bark for only 2 pulls this time, which seemed enough for such a small amount, and again let it decant overnight in the fridge.
Last night's events went as follows:
- 21:00: take 300mg of SR extract, followed by stretching, breathwork, and meditation.
- 22:00: drink about a quarter of the mimosa brew, lie back in my chair listening to music.
- 22:30: only effect I've noticed is some light jaw clenching and *maybe* some very light CEVs, but I could also have been imagining them, so I pop another SR gelcap, thinking perhaps I needed more MAOI.
- 22:45: still nothing at all, so drink some more mimosa.
- 23:00: determined to trip, I eat 25g of fresh mushrooms that I'd harvested that day, hoping for a psilohuasca experience with all the SR I had in my system at that point. I was already feeling quite nauseous, and 25g was all I could manage.
- 23:39: I check the time and look around me - the mushroom visuals are noticeable but not that intense. I'm feeling increasingly nauseous, but because I want to hold onto my mushrooms, I grate some fresh ginger root into some water and drink it.
- 23:50: ginger doesn't work, and I purge violently. This feels like a real ayahuasca purge, with the intense spasms and loud vocalisations. After this, I feel a lot better.
- 00:00 I drink some more mimosa, not expecting it to do anything (it doesn't).
The rest of the night was just a mild mushroom trip. I honestly would have expected more from 25 fresh grams of Colombians, especially with an MAOI...
As you can see, I consumed about 2/3 of the brew, so around 17g of root bark...
[[redacted by mod]]
Does anyone have any idea what could be going on? Nine years ago, I did 12 ayahuasca ceremonies in Peru, and for a lot of them, I barely experienced any visions, and when I did, it was usually after taking a second dose. The most intense experiences I had were when I took it at a kind of hippy commune run by Europeans who were known to add a lot of extra chacruna, and also when I brewed my own with ingredients I'd brought back from Iquitos. But when I took the stuff prepared by local curanderos, it was always rather mild (outside of the purging).
So I get that I'm a "hard tripper" but to not trip at all after ingesting the equivalent of 15+g of MMHRB and 6g of SR just seems odd... The only explanation I can think of is that the Syrian rue extract is bunk, but I've always had good experiences ordering from this vendor.
As I write this, I have 25g of acacia root bark cooking on the stove, which I plan on sampling later. I'll post my results below.
A couple of weeks ago, I obtained 50g of MHRB and 3g of 10:1 Syrian rue extract [[redacted by mod]]. I did 3 pulls with about a liter of water and a squirt of spirit vinegar, each time simmering it down to about 250ml. Because I'd read about the high tannin content and its nauseating effects, I wanted to mitigate this as much as possible, so I let the brew sit overnight in the fridge and then used an eggwhite to purify it further. I then (perhaps overzealously) simmered it down further until I was left with about 100ml of concentrated brew. Expecting it to taste awful, I wanted to ingest as little of it as possible.
Around 21:00, I took one gelcap of about 300mg of the Syrian rue and waited around 45 minutes before taking my first shot of the mimosa brew. After 20min, nothing, so I drank some more. I can't remember the exact timeline, but I ended up drinking about half the brew over a couple of hours and purging once.
I assumed I'd somehow removed all the DMT by somehow binding it to the eggwhite and throwing it away, and that I'd perhaps overboiled it and cooked off the rest, so I ordered some more MHRB along with 50g of acacia confusa root bark.
For my second attempt at brewing the mimosa, I cooked 25g of the finely powdered bark for only 2 pulls this time, which seemed enough for such a small amount, and again let it decant overnight in the fridge.
Last night's events went as follows:
- 21:00: take 300mg of SR extract, followed by stretching, breathwork, and meditation.
- 22:00: drink about a quarter of the mimosa brew, lie back in my chair listening to music.
- 22:30: only effect I've noticed is some light jaw clenching and *maybe* some very light CEVs, but I could also have been imagining them, so I pop another SR gelcap, thinking perhaps I needed more MAOI.
- 22:45: still nothing at all, so drink some more mimosa.
- 23:00: determined to trip, I eat 25g of fresh mushrooms that I'd harvested that day, hoping for a psilohuasca experience with all the SR I had in my system at that point. I was already feeling quite nauseous, and 25g was all I could manage.
- 23:39: I check the time and look around me - the mushroom visuals are noticeable but not that intense. I'm feeling increasingly nauseous, but because I want to hold onto my mushrooms, I grate some fresh ginger root into some water and drink it.
- 23:50: ginger doesn't work, and I purge violently. This feels like a real ayahuasca purge, with the intense spasms and loud vocalisations. After this, I feel a lot better.
- 00:00 I drink some more mimosa, not expecting it to do anything (it doesn't).
The rest of the night was just a mild mushroom trip. I honestly would have expected more from 25 fresh grams of Colombians, especially with an MAOI...
As you can see, I consumed about 2/3 of the brew, so around 17g of root bark...
[[redacted by mod]]
Does anyone have any idea what could be going on? Nine years ago, I did 12 ayahuasca ceremonies in Peru, and for a lot of them, I barely experienced any visions, and when I did, it was usually after taking a second dose. The most intense experiences I had were when I took it at a kind of hippy commune run by Europeans who were known to add a lot of extra chacruna, and also when I brewed my own with ingredients I'd brought back from Iquitos. But when I took the stuff prepared by local curanderos, it was always rather mild (outside of the purging).
So I get that I'm a "hard tripper" but to not trip at all after ingesting the equivalent of 15+g of MMHRB and 6g of SR just seems odd... The only explanation I can think of is that the Syrian rue extract is bunk, but I've always had good experiences ordering from this vendor.
As I write this, I have 25g of acacia root bark cooking on the stove, which I plan on sampling later. I'll post my results below.
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. Never mind, like you say northape, rue is cheap.
, sorry.
